Dcubed Posted September 16 Author Posted September 16 (edited) Quote This is brand new info from a Chinese forum poster who didn't have an insider track record, therefore the following is strictly for fun and giggles. Switch 2 production has started in (somewhere in China, which don't want to translate] 1000 units per day (Edit: This is one worker, not the whole line.] Slightly larger than Switch 1. Smaller bezel Black and white Joy-Con. Slightly larger logo, with "2" on the side. Nintendo moved over all of their console manufacturing to Malaysia about 5 years ago, after the big scandal with Foxconn came out. As such, nobody working in a Chinese factory would've caught a glimpse of any units on the production line. Allow me to present a better theory... https://money.udn.com/money/story/5710/8229942 https://www.resetera.com/threads/taiwan-economic-daily-news-switch-2-will-have-a-dual-screen-design-increased-battery-life-some-ai-features-and-400-price-tag.981882/ Quote Market speculation is that the Switch 2 screen is likely to be enlarged again and have a dual-screen design. The battery life of the game console itself will also be increased. At the same time, the screen processing and performance will also be improved simultaneously. Some AI functions may even be added. The terminal price is estimated to be about US$400 ( Approximately NT$12,781), which is about 30% higher than the US$299 price of the original Switch, and slightly higher than the US$349 price of the OLED version of Switch. Now this definitely sounds more like a "Nintendo-esc" console Edited September 16 by Dcubed
Julius Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Do...do they duke it out? How does this work? Do we start a March Madness-esque tournament tree for all purported leaks and rumours? Oh hold up @Dcubed, are they saying it's all market speculation with that first line? 2 minutes ago, Dcubed said: Market speculation is that the Switch 2 screen is likely to be enlarged again and have a dual-screen design. The battery life of the game console itself will also be increased. At the same time, the screen processing and performance will also be improved simultaneously. Some AI functions may even be added. The terminal price is estimated to be about US$400 ( Approximately NT$12,781), which is about 30% higher than the US$299 price of the original Switch, and slightly higher than the US$349 price of the OLED version of Switch. COME ON NINTENDO PUT US OUT OF OUR MISERY ALREADY AND TAKE MY GOSH DARN MONEY
Dcubed Posted September 16 Author Posted September 16 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Julius said: Do...do they duke it out? How does this work? Do we start a March Madness-esque tournament tree for all purported leaks and rumours? Oh hold up @Dcubed, are they saying it's all market speculation with that first line? COME ON NINTENDO PUT US OUT OF OUR MISERY ALREADY AND TAKE MY GOSH DARN MONEY Bare in mind that this is a machine translation, so I'd take the exact wording with a grain of salt. But yeah, the rumours are heating up now and are starting to come from more reputable outlets... Once we see the Nikkei throw their hat into the ring, that's when you know for sure that there's true smoke coming from this fire! Edited September 16 by Dcubed
Cube Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Somehow, the Wii U returned. (Surely if it's dual screen, then one of the screens will be detachable and usable in TV mode?)
Dcubed Posted September 16 Author Posted September 16 6 minutes ago, Cube said: Somehow, the Wii U returned. (Surely if it's dual screen, then one of the screens will be detachable and usable in TV mode?) My running theory for the past couple of years or so has been a dual screen design using a foldable screen. One large display that can be folded over to make a dual screen display when needed. That way, it can be used as a traditional horizontal 16:9 handheld display, but it can also be used in a vertical orientation like a DS; or even used in Tabletop mode as a front and back dual display (perfect for local splitscreen multiplayer!). With this device, Nintendo would move away from the mechanical rails for the Joycons in favour of electromagnets with QI charging (something previously rumoured, but I came up with the idea first of course ). Of course, it remains to be seen what they would do in TV mode though... Perhaps a screen on the dock itself?
killthenet Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Surely they're not doing dual screen, it seems like too risky a move for me. And yeah, I don't buy that they have started manufacturing in China when it's widely know that they have shifted production to Thailand, unless the Chinese factory is producing prototype models in smaller quantities to serve as a guide for the Thai factory. That seems unlikely though, there would be no reason why the Thai factory couldn't produce the prototypes themselves.
Julius Posted September 16 Posted September 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dcubed said: Nintendo moved over all of their console manufacturing to Malaysia about 5 years ago 14 minutes ago, killthenet said: And yeah, I don't buy that they have started manufacturing in China when it's widely know that they have shifted production to Thailand Malaysia? Thailand? Dual screens? Electromagnets? Spoiler Thanks guys, I'd completely missed that they'd moved production to Cambodia Edited September 16 by Julius 3
Glen-i Posted September 16 Posted September 16 50 minutes ago, killthenet said: Surely they're not doing dual screen, it seems like too risky a move for me. Risky? A feature from one of the most successful handheld Nintendo consoles of all time? I see it differently. 1
Dcubed Posted September 16 Author Posted September 16 1 minute ago, Glen-i said: Risky? A feature from one of the most successful handheld Nintendo consoles of all time? I see it differently. This. Plus the fact that we now have portable PCs like Steam Deck that have stolen the Switch's core USP. I'd say that a new Nintendo console that attempts nothing new or novel is in of itself a huge risk.
killthenet Posted September 16 Posted September 16 (edited) I don't doubt that they would do cool things with it or that I would welcome a return of dual screen gaming, just that it seems like there is less chance of a DS Switch 2 being a runaway success than an 'incremental' upgrade that keeps the same form factor of the original Switch Yes the likes of the Steam Deck and ROG Ally have diminished some of the Switch USP but they are not mass market products in the way the Switch is. The average member of the general public has no idea what a Steam Deck is, Nintendo still have a market penetration that dwarfs the handheld PC space. A Switch 2 that plays it safe would absolutely sell, maybe not Switch levels of success but it would by no means be a failure Edited September 16 by killthenet
drahkon Posted September 16 Posted September 16 (edited) On 9/15/2024 at 11:26 AM, Hero-of-Time said: What would be the breaking point price for you to say "No" when it comes to the Switch successor. Interesting question. For me it would be a matter of several things combined with the price: launch titles that actually interest me - sadly I doubt that will happen as I've had barely if any interest in any of Nintendo's recent output if they go with Joy-Cons again: hall effect (i.e. no drift) sticks and make them more ergonomic - the current Joy-Cons are probably the worst and most uncomfortable controllers I've ever held in my hands OLED right from the get-go a decent enough upgrade regarding specs If all of this happens, I could see myself spending 400€ on the device + whatever one game will cost. Maybe I could go up to 500€ in total. Edited September 16 by drahkon
Ashley Posted September 16 Posted September 16 3 hours ago, Julius said: 1000 units per day Compared to the 100 units a day for the original amirite?
Jonnas Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Switch 2 being dual screen makes sense: it's one of the few features from older Nintendo consoles that the Switch can't easily replicate. With a dual screen, we can actually see 3DS remasters/ports. And a Nintendo DS NSO.
lostmario Posted September 16 Posted September 16 On 9/15/2024 at 10:26 AM, Hero-of-Time said: Let's say the Switch 2 is just a more powerful version of the original. How much are people willing to pay for it? With the PS5 Pro being announced, there's been a lot of talk about the price of consoles and people potentially being priced out of the hobby if they continue to rise. What would be the breaking point price for you to say "No" when it comes to the Switch successor. I'd go up to £450, day 1 for me. I held off for too long on the Switch after being badly burnt by the Wii U. That won't happen this time. Last 2 and half years owning a Switch has restored my faith in Nintendo. 8 hours ago, Glen-i said: They defo won't call it Switch 2. Such a boring iterative name just isn't their style. Yes, that's the one thing that's raising a red flag. It's too safe. They would be stupid not to. They have so much momentum right now with the Switch brand. Has the Nintendo brand and their IPs ever been this strong? They have to nail the marketing to the successor to their most successful console. Stick a 2 on the end, it's simple. For once, play it safe. No repeat of the disaster that was the Wii U. No unnecessary gimmicks.
Helmsly Posted September 16 Posted September 16 (edited) On 9/15/2024 at 10:26 AM, Hero-of-Time said: Let's say the Switch 2 is just a more powerful version of the original. How much are people willing to pay for it? With the PS5 Pro being announced, there's been a lot of talk about the price of consoles and people potentially being priced out of the hobby if they continue to rise. What would be the breaking point price for you to say "No" when it comes to the Switch successor. I think around £400 is around the most I would pay for a Switch 2. The only reason I can think of that would make me not want to buy it, would be if it didn't have backwards compatibility... but even then I think I still would buy it eventually Edited September 16 by Helmsly 1
nekunando Posted September 16 Posted September 16 If the console doesn't have 'Switch' in the title, what are they going to do with the name of 'Nintendo Switch Online' and all of the accompanying apps? Even when it launched, I never understood why they didn't just call it 'Nintendo Online' that would work for any console or device now and moving forward. It could be fun having to have a 'Nintendo Switch Online' subscription to play stuff like the NES and SNES games online (assuming they're backwards compatible) but also have to pay for a completely separate 'Nintendo [CONSOLE NAME] Online' subscription with specific titles for the new platform. Obviously that isn't going to happen but it's still a thing that doesn't have an 'obvious' answer to me unless the system is Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch Ultra or some other variant with Switch in the title! As for all of this dual screen talk, the only implementation I see is allowing the system to communicate wirelessly with the dock to allow for Wii U-style experiences as well as offering the opportunity to bring DS and 3DS games with greater ease and results. I think the console will basically be able to play any game from any Nintendo system ever made should they choose to remake or remaster it. Heck, even Virtual Boy and Super Scope games could be done with some sort of headset or attachment 😅 1
Hero-of-Time Posted September 18 Posted September 18 These images are floating about the likes of Reddit and Era. Quote Translation: "switch second generation model stp" "switch second generation switch2 model stp: magnetic slide rail, 8-inch large screen, length 270 width 115 thickness 14, two typec interfaces"
killthenet Posted September 18 Posted September 18 I have no reason to doubt that they're real, if production has started then it's going to be more difficult to contain leaks about the design. And it does look very convincing, like a natural evolution of the OLED and the sort of thing Nintendo would do if they were playing it safe as I expect them to be If they are real then an announcement is probably imminent
Ike Posted September 18 Posted September 18 Display port is pretty interesting, suggests it's capable of higher refresh rates.
killthenet Posted September 18 Posted September 18 Didn't even clock the breakdown of the specs in that last image, storage seems great to me - 256gb at 2 GB/S should mean very quick loading compared to the original Switch, even without the built in decompression block that was rumoured.
Dcubed Posted September 18 Author Posted September 18 (edited) Ahh, we're now getting into the time of fake images. One of the most fun parts of any good pre-console launch window period Edit: Speaking of fake images... here's another one! Edited September 18 by Dcubed 1
MindFreak Posted September 18 Posted September 18 How would one attach those JoyCons? It seems like you need to plug something into them but you can't do that, if you have to slide them down on the sides. And using magnets would surely hold them together very well?
Julius Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Hero-of-Time said: These images are floating about the likes of Reddit and Era. Somehow, the Switch without a D-pad on Joy-Cons has returned 4 minutes ago, MindFreak said: How would one attach those JoyCons? It seems like you need to plug something into them but you can't do that, if you have to slide them down on the sides. Had to break out my own Joy-Con to check on this, but I think where there's that slot which looks like it should fit something... 1 hour ago, Hero-of-Time said: ...is where the lights for player number goes? And the hole next to it is the sync button? (ft. my hand reveal) SL and SR buttons that purported leak are much larger than on the standard Switch Joy-Cons, which would be nice. 1 hour ago, Dcubed said: Ahh, we're now getting into the time of fake images. One of the most fun parts of any good pre-console launch window period Absolutely, that oval-shaped Switch screen/controller hybrid was one of the first things I remember seeing on this very site! Ah, the memories. It is just like Christmas, but Santa is some random South East Asian factory worker risking their livelihood versus some portly, elderly fellow committing a number of crimes to "deliver presents" to children 2
BowserBasher Posted September 18 Posted September 18 Nintendo just give me my analogue shoulder buttons back so I can play racing games properly. 1 hour ago, Dcubed said: Ahh, we're now getting into the time of fake images. One of the most fun parts of any good pre-console launch window period This is a fun time. Wonder what we’ll see? Maybe someone will think to make a Switch 2 that projects the image like a holograph. 3
Julius Posted September 18 Posted September 18 8 minutes ago, BowserBasher said: Nintendo just give me my analogue shoulder buttons back so I can play racing games properly. Nintendo giveth and Nintendo taketh. As the prophets of yore foretold. 10 minutes ago, BowserBasher said: Wonder what we’ll see? Is it really purported leak season if some smart ass doesn't just glue two Switch units together?
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