Choze Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Reading the game has big performance dips even with a PS4 Pro Some rough worlds etc. Sounds like a small game that was stretched a lot. Hopefully a good learning experience for Playtonic.
Hero-of-Time Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Seems about right Now post the N64 scores. :p Also, the PS4 version is sitting on 67.
Sheikah Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Seems about right @Hero\-of\-Time I believe the relevant term is "combo breaker".
Dcubed Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Not really. Reviews are a product of their time. Yooka Laylee is not being judged by the same reviewer preferences and standards as in 1998. This game was specifically designed to recapture the gameplay and charm of the original BK and BT and by all accounts, it has done exactly that. However, reviewers today are not looking for a game like that and are slamming it for being just like those games released back on the N64. So seeing YL getting review scores similar to the XBLA re-releases of BK and BT is not terribly surprising. Jim Sterling calls it a game out of time and that's why it's being reviewed poorly. For fans of those original N64 games though, it's exactly what they wanted. Edited April 4, 2017 by Dcubed
Sheikah Posted April 4, 2017 Posted April 4, 2017 Not really. Reviews are a product of their time. Yooka Laylee is not being judged by the same reviewer preferences and standards as in 1998. This game was specifically designed to recapture the gameplay and charm of the original BK and BT and by all accounts, it has done exactly that. However, reviewers today are not looking for a game like that and are slamming it for being just like those games released back on the N64. So seeing YL getting review scores similar to the XBLA re-releases of BK and BT is not terribly surprising. Jim Sterling calls it a game out of time and that's why it's being reviewed poorly. For fans of those original N64 games though, it's exactly what they wanted. It seems more like it's being criticised for poor controls, bugs and bringing little to the table/lack of imagination to be honest, not really anything to do with being judged differently to how it was back then. I'm also wondering whether it really does recapture the magic of the original game. Even Tooie couldn't do that and that probably had near enough the same staff making it.
Kaepora_Gaebora Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Disappointed to see some of the reviews, however i will still be picking this up on the Switch no question! Some people love the 'new' 16 bit style games while, apart from Mutant Mudds i think, I've never really got into it... 64 bit style games are what I've been hankering for, so I'm looking forward to making my own opinion on this
Shorty Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I'm sure this is standard but to me it seems BS that reviewers get the game before backers. I mean, the game wouldn't exist without us, we can't back out of our purchase anyway, if the game is ready, give it out to the people who paid for it.
Ronnie Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Basing a game exclusively on nostalgia, without modernising the formula at all was always going to be risky. I can't say I'm surprised the reviews aren't great.
Aneres11 Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I love these types of games so I am still going to get it, but won't be double dipping on PS4 / Switch now. Instead I'll just get it on Switch when it's available, providing it runs ok etc.
drahkon Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Everything seems to be as expected and exactly as I wanted: Old school gameplay and I'm very much looking forward to play it The performance issues, though...I really hope they get patched. I guess it's a good opportunity for Playtonic Games to learn from this.
DuD Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Today, the Playtonic team continues to work on updates that will further improve the performance of the game, and early birds should expect to see the first game update from today. Once release is out of the way, we’ll start planning a DLC add-on created exclusively free for our Kickstarter backers. We’re also working closely with Nintendo to bring the Switch version of Yooka-Laylee to Nintendo fans as soon as possible. Part of the email sent to backers.
Serebii Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Yeah, based on reviews it seems like it's exactly what they promised, but with performance issues. I'm happy with that. Some reviews have brought to light one of the issues I have with gaming now. There's too much focus on narrative and scope, less on gameplay and people are starting to expect things to be like that. Ah well. I'm waiting for the Switch version now and will decide from there Edited April 5, 2017 by Serebii
Lens of Truth Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Also from the Kickstarter email update: Due to time constraints, the orchestral soundtrack, 64-bit shader and dev commentary will be added to Yooka-Laylee post release. Glad Kirkhope is still getting the chance to record with live players! It's clear he's written this in a more nuanced style similar to the masterful Viva Pinata. The synth/sampled strings and brass in Glitterglaze Glacier don't do his writing any justice.
Ronnie Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Yeah, based on reviews it seems like it's exactly what they promised, but with performance issues. I'm happy with that. Some reviews have brought to light one of the issues I have with gaming now. There's too much focus on narrative and scope, less on gameplay and people are starting to expect things to be like that. Ah well. I'm waiting for the Switch version now and will decide from there Too much focus on narrative I agree with, especially the complaints about BOTW, but a lot of issues about this game are to do with the gameplay.
Sméagol Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I haven't read / watched the reviews, but I actually loved Banjo Tooie, and I've wanted a Banjo Threeie since finishing that game. This is the closest thing I'll get. Performance issues are hopefully fixable, gameplay-wise I'm confident I'm getting exactly what I want.
Serebii Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 Too much focus on narrative I agree with, especially the complaints about BOTW, but a lot of issues about this game are to do with the gameplay. Mostly that it's "outdated", which is what you'd expect from this, and what was promised :P
Hero-of-Time Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 John from DF has commented about the performance of the game. [TWEET]849881110054137857[/TWEET] That's certainly reassuring. No word of a lie, I didn't realise that the release of the game was so close! Tempted to slam my preorder down with Simply Games in the hope that they ship it for a Saturday delivery.
Cube Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 If the performance problems are anything like Breath of the Wild or Mass Effect Andromeda, than it won't have any impact on my enjoyment of the game.
Jimbob Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 According to the latest emails, kickstarter orders are being shipped. With some arriving as of yesterday (5th)
Aneres11 Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Was watching YouTube vids of this earlier and absolutely love the look of some of these worlds. I said I was going to wait for the Switch version, but with no concrete release date I don't know if I can hold off. I've got Lego City Undercover arriving today so I definitely won't be done with that by Tuesday when this comes out, but im still so tempted.
Hogge Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Also from the Kickstarter email update: Glad Kirkhope is still getting the chance to record with live players! It's clear he's written this in a more nuanced style similar to the masterful Viva Pinata. The synth/sampled strings and brass in Glitterglaze Glacier don't do his writing any justice. Oooo... What exactly does this 64-bit shader entail? I'm intrigued.
Ashley Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Yeah, based on reviews it seems like it's exactly what they promised, but with performance issues. I'm happy with that. Some reviews have brought to light one of the issues I have with gaming now. There's too much focus on narrative and scope, less on gameplay and people are starting to expect things to be like that. Ah well. I'm waiting for the Switch version now and will decide from there They're expecting narrative or they're expecting a focus on gameplay?
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