Sheikah

Ah man, SNES games are great in their own right, even if you've not played them back in the day. Play some Chrono Trigger and you'll see the light.

The game looks visually very nice and I do like a good RPG, by but by god that American voiceover guy in those trailers sucks. Can you imagine if they advertised FF7 in this way, saying "here's Aeris, using her ability you can heal eeeeveryone in your team!" There's a big mismatch between the type of game it appears to be and the tone of these advertising materials.

I do wonder how Nintendo can thrive in the long term if they make everything from their past, or nearly everything, available. Netflix works with this model because they're constantly creating content and regularly acquiring different older stuff, so there's a reason to keep subscribing. I get the impression Nintendo will be including games in their Switch sub package but then periodically taking them away so you never have access to most of their stuff at any one time.

That's exactly what I said. You said if you don't like it (it being the subject in question), don't sign up. How exactly did I put words in your mouth? How is that also even remotely worth saying? If I don't like it, of course I won't sign up. Do you thrive off giving useless advice?

"If you don't like it, don't subscribe". Is that genuinely your response to valid criticism levelled against the service? I mean, it's pretty obvious I'm not going to subscribe, I even said as much. Are you just trying to shut down discussion?

MK8, near enough the same game, is free to play online on Wii U. Smash doesn't tend to evolve very much and you can play the last one free online on Wii U. Splatoon 2...well there's near enough that same thing with Splatoon, free to play online on Wii U. That's pretty much all the big stuff available now/soon. Not a compelling package, is it? There is also no value in the app voice chat as you can just use a free app for that (e.g. Skype) if you're going to go down the app route. So...you're paying for NES games that nobody wants, and cloud saves, which is a solution to a problem they created. What a crock of shit!

Jim makes a good point that all the good online experiences are pretty much the same as what we've already had for free on Wii U and former consoles (MK, Splatoon, Smash). I see no value in the service, it's purely a cash grab.

Eh? All I saw on Eurogamer was that they are announcing the first party games they will be showing ahead of time. Methinks that's because they don't have any unrevealed IP to announce this year and they're tempering expectations. In my opinion they need to steer clear of the Direct format, empty and lacking the usual atmosphere of the live presentations. Sony have shown they can do live presentations without endless filler, so that's all they have to do.

Ehh...I find most NES games pretty boring to be honest, and I'll bet a lot of fans will have bought the good ones on previous VCs. If the NES games were a separate and optional deal I can't imagine many people here would be signing up for this. You also don't 'get' them as I recall, you lose access to each after the month is up. Not very good value in my opinion.

Good riddance GameSeek.

The game is highly scripted? So that's why I always lose...

I don't see the family account as particularly good value, purely because I think extra accounts on the same system should be able to play online without a more expensive sub. Who has a family of 8 that they trust implicitly to share account details with anyway? I don't trust to share my PSN account with one person. Unless there's a way to make each account private with separate login details, but if that's the case then I don't see how they will prevent this system being abused. Surely people would just go on websites designed to hook 8 people up on one sub? For the record, I'm sure there will be people with at least 2 other family members they trust enough (because you need 3 on it to make any real saving), but this seems rather niche to me. At least in my situation, none of my other direct family have a Switch. For me, I'd want to share my Switch with my wife and for us to both be able to play online on our own accounts. Can't do that without the more expensive sub though. It all feels quite stingy to be honest, as this brings it up to XBL costs but with a far worse offering. There are so few games worth playing online on Switch, the online feature integration is poor and the NES game offering is extremely unappetising. As it stands I see little value in Nintendo's sub, even the standard priced one.

The people saying at least not having local saves combats piracy know the Switch has had its door blown wide open to piracy recently anyway right?

I think this is quite poor value, particularly the family option. If my wife and I want to play on our accounts online on my one Switch, we're looking at 31.50 GBP per year which puts it in the same price league as Xbox Gold (as you can usually always pick it up for about this price); except you're not getting the big retail games (or indie hits), an established service or integrated voice chat. And PS Plus can often be picked up for not far off that either. All the other services don't charge you for playing with a different account on the same system. I don't care about being able to share it with other random people to split the cost as from a security perspective I wouldn't do that (same reason I don't allow other people to use my PSN account by setting as a primary console, in order to split the sub fee). Nintendo should also add a free method to backup saves, as I don't particularly see much reason to fork out for this service yet but would still like a way to backup my saves. Again, all the other companies have a free option.

As I recall (and at least with DQVIII), DQ usually has only 4 main characters anyway so no other characters to switch to. That's one of the things I really love actually, no back bench characters that you never switch to because they're underlevelled, or you just don't like them. Every character counts.