Sheikah Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 And the personality and charm of Nintendo's Robot Chicken animations in 2014 and the puppet show from 2015 could not be done with the same impact in a live stage show. There's pros and cons to both. I agree with serebii, last year's Sony show was just trailer trailer trailer trailer, sure there was audience reaction but the presentation seemed a bit pointless and dated. You could argue that Nintendo can't do these screenings live as they need these segments, on account of not having enough games to make up a reasonable length show. I bet they wish they could do trailer trailer trailer. I would have killed for tappa tappa tappa.
Serebii Posted April 28, 2017 Author Posted April 28, 2017 For what it's worth, my point was Sony's was too like a Direct to the point it really didn't need to be live :p
Ashley Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 You could argue that Nintendo can't do these screenings live as they need these segments, on account of not having enough games to make up a reasonable length show. I bet they wish they could do trailer trailer trailer. I would have killed for tappa tappa tappa. For what it's worth, my point was Sony's was too like a Direct to the point it really didn't need to be live :p Well it had an atmosphere so it was nothing like a Direct :p
Kaepora_Gaebora Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Out of curiosity, who do you think had a bad one last year? Sony has had killer E3 pressers for the past few years now, same goes for the Playstation Experience conferences they have in December. Microsoft, despite not having a strong line up of games, have even taken note and trimmed the fat, with their conference getting rid of the talking and focusing purely on the games. The roughest of the live stuff has been from Japan, with both the TGS event and Nintendo's Switch reveal being the ones that didn't deliver. I don't necessarily think anyone had a bad one last year, it definitely comes down to personal taste and I always thought even Nintendo's way back when we're cringe worthy and souless. I just find them vacuums of atmosphere and most reactions unbelievable, constant whooping etc, and, ultimately, create more hype than they are worth. Just struggle to find them interesting when a nice, concise pre recorded presentation will do. Don't get me wrong though, Nintendo's last year was naff, but I'd much rather see in depth things like Tree House after rather than one hour long skirt over things and nothing else; great example being Shenmue 3 reveal two years ago, people were crying at that and we are still waiting (still hopeful it could follow Breath of The Wild in terms of long wait from announcement to great game etc). Again, just my personal taste though
Ronnie Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Okay fair enough, but saying the show "was just trailer trailer trailer trailer" and that it "seemed a bit pointless and dated" could certainly be interpreted as complaining about them showing nothing but games. What was your issue with it? I just thought it was a bit pointless to have this big live stage show, and then do more or less nothing but show trailers on the big screen. Don't get me wrong, it's obviously a great thing that their show was all about games, I just thought the delivery was verging on seeming dated. But to be clear, I have no real 'issue' with it, I'm just offering another view. Sure seeing a crowd applaud and cheer is fun, but so were Nintendo's Digital Events. So yeah, whichever really
Ashley Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Well the live show is for the conference audience. It brings them together and gives a conversation point: "were you at Sony's show? What did you think of...?" which plays out over the three days. Does anyone know if Nintendo at least have a 'showing' of their Direct? Or does everyone just try and grab WiFi somewhere and sit apart? Of course in either case you can talk about the content, but the experience is missing from a preroll. I just imagine at the event the live shows garner more attention than what Nintendo do and to us at home that doesn't make a difference but when this is a trade show it makes a difference if not in discussions then perhaps in perception. After all it's the definition of 'phoning it in'
Ronnie Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 or so years time Sony and/or Microsoft will also stream pre-recorded shows like Nintendo now does. Just a guess, but I think that's where things are headed. To be aired in a conference room, but pre-recorded.
Ashley Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 How many years has Nintendo been doing this now? Four?
Helmsly Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 I much prefer the directs over the live conferences. I rarely watch any of the conferences live now, and just watch them on youtube later on so I can skip through the filler. Never cared for the audience applauding a bunch of games too. With a direct i get to see everything without any technical issues, awkward pauses, people introducing people...who then walk on stage just to introduce someone else, unnecessary celebrities appearances and all the other guff those live shows give us. And from Nintendo's perspective a direct gets just as much coverage as a conference does, so its a win win situation.
Agent Gibbs Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 Could have ridden the Switch hype so well, meh the Direct will be good no doubt either way, they can't fuck up the Switch now Can they..........
Hogge Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I don't really care that much as long as Nintendo unveil some good software at the event. But it is a bit of a cop-out to not have a live event. Would sports events be exciting without an audience? You definitely lose something.
Dcubed Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 No mention of Xenoblade 2? Yeah... it's not coming out this year...
Dcubed Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 Why is it called Treehouse? That's the name of NOA's localisation team; it was set up formally around the time they were working with Rare on Donkey Kong Country (hence the name).
Serebii Posted May 11, 2017 Author Posted May 11, 2017 No mention of Xenoblade 2? Yeah... it's not coming out this year... Hahaha that's ridiculous :P
nekunando Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 'Tune in for a look at Nintendo Switch games for 2017' makes me think it won't be a particularly exciting show as we already know a lot of what's on offer. Hopefully there will be a couple of nice surprises
Serebii Posted May 11, 2017 Author Posted May 11, 2017 'Tune in for a look at Nintendo Switch games for 2017' makes me think it won't be a particularly exciting show as we already know a lot of what's on offer. Hopefully there will be a couple of nice surprises Nintendo always do this They always say their Directs focus on ____ during ____ YEAR. We then get loads of stuff beyond that.
FireMeowth Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) TREEHOUSE CONFIRMED! Time to get hyped!! And cancel all my plans for those days probably. (Not that I was expecting otherwise, but... you never know with Nintendo.) Edited May 11, 2017 by FireMeowth
Ronnie Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 Nintendo’s E3 activities kick off on Tuesday 13th June at 17:00 BST with its Nintendo Spotlight: E3 2017 video presentation. Available to view in local languages live at Nintendo of Europe’s E3 2017 website, this presentation will offer more details about Super Mario Odyssey and other Nintendo Switch games, with a focus on games launching this year. https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2017/May/Let-s-a-go-Mario-tournaments-and-Nintendo-Switch-head-to-E3-2017--1224053.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=E32017%7CAnnouncement
Kaepora_Gaebora Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 I can see Nintendo holding out on say a new Metroid until e3 2018; after the success of the Zelda themed one last year this year is very much Mario, if this goes as well I can see them following the template for a few more years yet!
killthenet Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 I just hope they don't devote more than a couple of minutes of the direct and the Treehouse to Arms and Splatoon, I want them to focus on games coming in Autumn and Winter with maybe a couple of stealth drops of eShop titles.
Julius Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 I can see Nintendo holding out on say a new Metroid until e3 2018; after the success of the Zelda themed one last year this year is very much Mario, if this goes as well I can see them following the template for a few more years yet! I agree that they'll likely continue with this template for the foreseeable future (I have no doubts it will go down as a great way to end E3 like it was last year), but I don't see them holding onto a property such as Metroid for next year's conference to be the tentpole game for Nintendo to focus on marketing. It very well could be, but I don't see it having anywhere near the mass appeal that Mario and Link have (with Samus and Link notably nowhere near as beloved in Japan as Mario or other Nintendo franchises), especially considering previous sales numbers (last I checked, the franchise was sitting at ~17.5 million units sold back in 2012). In fact, given the console and previous sales numbers, I believe that 2018 - and yes, I'm aware that they've never been revealed at an E3 before - would be the perfect time to use the Pokémon franchise to headline the conference. I think the next Metroid has potential to be great, but I think Nintendo would rather have their larger franchises headline the conference, and new games, such as a potential Metroid, could be featured in the Nintendo Spotlight. In fact, it's been a while since we've heard anything about what Retro's up to, so I wouldn't be too surprised if we saw a reveal for the next Metroid or Donkey Kong game at E3 this year.
Dufniall Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 Did they call it Nintendo Spotlight the other years as well? Thought they just called it a Direct?
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