Sheikah Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 BT are pushing to get fibre optic cable to the vast majority of homes within the next couple of years so it should become more feasible soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcubed Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 BT are pushing to get fibre optic cable to the vast majority of homes within the next couple of years so it should become more feasible soon. I have BT fibre optic to my exchange. I've tried Gaikai and Onlive. It's not really very playable outside of turn based stuff. The lag is immediately noticeable (and it would only be worse on a HDTV, where most of them suffer from horrendous input lag already. Oh and if that's not bad enough, a lot of PS3 and 360 games already suffer from high input lag even when played natively anyway - particularly GTA4 and Killzone 2!) It's gonna be a mess, but hey! At least they get to advertise that it's "Backwards Compatible" Here's hoping that we see PS2 disc support at least. Software emulation for PS2 games should be very doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I have BT fibre optic to my exchange. I've tried Gaikai and Onlive. It's not really very playable outside of turn based stuff. The lag is immediately noticeable (and it would only be worse on a HDTV, where most of them suffer from horrendous input lag already. Oh and if that's not bad enough, a lot of PS3 and 360 games already suffer from high input lag even when played natively anyway - particularly GTA4 and Killzone 2!) It's gonna be a mess, but hey! At least they get to advertise that it's "Backwards Compatible" Here's hoping that we see PS2 disc support at least. Software emulation for PS2 games should be very doable. I imagine something needs optimising with the setup then and hopefully they do it. Fibre optic is definitely good enough to stream 1080p video content so really it should be possible to make this almost lag free. I know you require sending input as well as receiving, but it should be possible. Note that some internet providers fuck your speeds at peak times or throttle certain content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 What's the advantage of being able to offer say... 'Pay this much a year and you can stream all you want' over 'Pay this much a year and you can download all you want from PSN'? Also would it conflict with Plus in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I think to start with they'll cap streaming to 720p. That should alleviate some bandwidth issues, then they can slowly upgrade as infrastructure improves. I suspect it'll be a Plus feature, the PS4 reads that you have the game disk or checks you've downloaded it on your account and it will stream away. It'll be interesting to see what games will be available and how/if DLC will work. Personally, I'm not bothered but if it's a cheap solution to backward compatibility then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debug Mode Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Sony Attacks Nintendo’s Mario To Promote PlayStation Meeting? 10/10 Sony, laughed hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Imagine if they said the words "Sony do what Nintendon't" in the meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debug Mode Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Imagine if they said the words "Sony do what Nintendon't" in the meeting. I'd flip my shit and hope Sega starts licking major Sony balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Sony Attacks Nintendo’s Mario To Promote PlayStation Meeting? 10/10 Sony, laughed hard It's funny because it's so cutting and true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger05 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 The Times : Sony is considering pricing PS4 "at about £300" #1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When Sony unveils its new PlayStation device this week, it will be far cheaper than many experts had expected — a price tag that, it is hoped, will lure millions of customers into buying its latest video games console. Industry sources and leaked internal documents suggest that Sony is considering pricing the new device at about £300, more than £100 cheaper than the starting cost of its predecessor, the PlayStation 3. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/technology/article3691304.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It needs to be this price. I doubt it will. I'd happily pay £400. Price of an iPad that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) I can see it being £350 max. £300 would be a very sweet price point though. Edited February 18, 2013 by Hero-of-Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger05 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I can see it being £350 max. £300 would be a very sweet price point though. I'm thinking £349 - £399. I dont think they will go beyond that but will be interesting to see how much the console is costing to build. I did say the price will be lower than what people think simply cos off the shelf parts and the PS3 disaster would insure Sony dont make the same mistake. Any price which starts with 3 for the PS4 or the next Xbox is going to really effect Nintendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 What did the 360 launch at? £299? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger05 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 What did the 360 launch at? £299? £279 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmario Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Any price which starts with 3 for the PS4 or the next Xbox is going to really effect Nintendo. Its going to be very interesting to see how Nintendo react if both the PS4 & xbox 3 launch around the £300-£350 mark. Its already a hard sell at the current price against the PS3/360, they'll have to re-evaluate the bundles on offer and throw in an extra game or something, Nintendoland as a pre-installed game perhaps plus another. I think Sony are going to surprise a lot of people on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Its going to be very interesting to see how Nintendo react if both the PS4 & xbox 3 launch around the £300-£350 mark. I think a price cut when the next Xbox and Playstation arrives was always on the cards for Nintendo. Whether they can wait that long is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 New PS4 based GT Bonus Round, if you want to watch then talk about it here: http://n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I think they'll announce a PS3 price cut on Wednesday, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I can see it being £350 max. £300 would be a very sweet price point though. If anyone is wondering, this works quite well to You're The First, The Last, My Everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I can see it being £350 max. £300 would be a very sweet price point though. "Free Mobile games"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.dakota Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 BT are pushing to get fibre optic cable to the vast majority of homes within the next couple of years so it should become more feasible soon. By "pushing" you mean they're showing faint interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokong Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 What time is this event on Wednesday meant to be on at and is it being streamed live anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Gibbs Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 shit if they launch at £300 nintendo will have to have a price cut...... i best get some ambassador games...... at £300 i might actually get it at launch again....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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