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I cannot fathom how anybody with an ounce of intelligence can consider voting for either Labour or Tory.

 

Same here...I've always voted LibDem and just wish more people would so we don't have to have a labour or tory government but meh don't reckon that will happen.

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Have always voted Labour will probably do so again but I am unsure. I was a big fan of Blair but have been dissapointed with Brown some basic stuff like lowering the VAT didn't make sense to me. I also don't think he is a good leader on the world stage. On the other hand who else would I vote for?

 

I live in Surrey so Labour have no chane in hell but if Brown does well in the Leader debates I think I will vote for him.

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I'll be voting Labour.

 

I don't trust the Conservatives and especially policyless Cameron one inch! Slimey bastard!

Strike that!

 

I'll be voting Lib Dem.

 

Living in a Lib Dem/Conservative area it's absolutely pointless voting Labour, so I'll be voting Lib Dem (with Labour in mind), so the Conservatives don't get the seat.

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I'm voting Green.

 

Everyone take this test. Interestingly, the majority of people choose Green party policies.

 

60% Lib Dems, 20% Tory, 20% Green for me. Weirdly chose the Green's policy on Europe and the Tories' on Enviroment. Economy, Democracy and Education were all Lib Dem policies. I didn't bother going through policies on the other topics, they aren't ones that matter much to me personally.

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Yes I know it's a democracy, and I know people have their own choice. But when the vast majority of retards in this country seem incapable of actually using their brain and making their own minds up, and instead simply regurgitate whatever they read in the tabloids, well then we may as well just see which party has the most media support and give it to them.

 

Also unless you are a very high earner then I can't see how the tories will benefit you the most. (Although if you're willing then please explain to me.)

 

I can't understand how the Lib Dem's policy of 0 income tax on the first 10k of earning isn't incredibly popular with the vast majority of people. Wait what's that? They're going to stop the very wealthy from benefiting from tax loop holes? Wait who owns the tabloid news papers again?

 

Also you say that Labour should be punished. How exactly should they be punished? And you seriously think the tories won't ever cover anything up?

 

I do understand what you say my grandma would still vote labour if gordon brown hung a man from every second lamp post. But thats her choice. I just dont like it when people resort to name calling on the issue.

 

The lib dems just seem very wishy washy to me. Its a month to the election and i still dont really know what there policys are. I came home after being away for 5 weeks and i could barely open my door for leaflets from labour and the torys. I havent had one leaflet from them. Dosent seem like they are that arsed. Also i think its very easy for them to make claims for thwat they will and wont do money wise. As they know theres no way they will ever have to do it. (or not at this election anyway).

 

Well i just d not think this labour govenment has any buisness being in govenment anymore. I am not a closed book to ever voting labour. But i have no respect for any of higher members of the labour partys. the party should be punished by being pushed out of govenment and being forced to chnge there leadership in my opinion.

 

The torys may cover things up. As of the partys might but the difference is that labour have. And the trys probably have in the past. But if there are any members of the party still left its will only b a few not like the many in the labour party.

I just dont think someone wh can go to an inquiry in to the death of hundreds of servicemen and women and lie in front of there families and the nation is a man that should be leading the country. On that fact alone it is my belief the labour party should have disowned him.

Tony blair went to the inquiry said we got things wrong but i still think it was right thing to do. You cant fault tony blair for that. But to lie in front of the families ofdead people at a public inquiry just shows he has no honour at all.

 

So your whole vote is based on a hatred of the PM and the belief that all parties are equally shit? So you choose to vote for the Tories? And you think that is an effective Democracy? To me that simply says that the democratic system in this country isn't working.

 

Yeah hatred and the incopetance of the labour party for keeping such a man as leader of there party. If they think its ok for him to do such things then they shoudnt be in power.

Also i dont think the govenment has done enough to fight imigration at all. it is my belief there should be some kind of annual cap.

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My 2 cents will find there way on to this thread later, but two things quickly: contrary to the other two recent new threads, I will certainly not be agreeing with Danny, and, secondly, nice to see a decent amount of Lib Dem support around here. :)

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I'm in the Buckingham constituency and will most certainly be voting for the Speaker, John Bercow. He has served this constituency exceptionally well over the past thirteen years and I'm very happy for him for his election as Speaker.

 

At first I was going to transfer my vote over to the constituency where I live at university since I thought people did not stand against the Speaker. However now that twats like Nigel Farage and some BNP bint are running against him, it looks like I'm going to have to vote for Bercow to make sure he gets re-elected.

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I've not decided yet. I've yet to do my full research. The problem i have, is that it's always going to be somewhat of a blind vote. For every claim a party makes, the other parties accuse them of lying, or find holes in their policies. And how the hell are you as a civillian really ever going to know what's going on behind closed doors? Every time i hear a policy from a party that sounds good, another party is laying down why it won't work. And so on and so forth...

So it's just hard to vote with much conviction i find... i don't trust any of them. But of course i'll choose the least repulsive party in the end, and hope for the best.

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So I might be voting Liberal.... I like them the most out of the main parties but in my constituency that vote is completely wasted. I have the fun of living in a marginal constituency, which has voted with the country on maybe every election back to 1974? So if I am going to 'waste' my vote, I'm thinking I may as well vote Green.

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I've not decided yet. I've yet to do my full research. The problem i have, is that it's always going to be somewhat of a blind vote. For every claim a party makes, the other parties accuse them of lying, or find holes in their policies. And how the hell are you as a civillian really ever going to know what's going on behind closed doors? Every time i hear a policy from a party that sounds good, another party is laying down why it won't work. And so on and so forth...

So it's just hard to vote with much conviction i find... i don't trust any of them. But of course i'll choose the least repulsive party in the end, and hope for the best.

 

You can be sure they'll make claims but in the end do whatever the bloody hell they want when they've got the power.

 

This is why I hate politics!

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That quiz was really helpful for me, considering I got

 

* Labour 25.00%

* UKIP 25.00%

* Conservatives 25.00%

* Lib Dems 25.00%

 

So other than the rascists and the eco-mentalists, I agree with bits of everything.

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The lib dems just seem very wishy washy to me. Its a month to the election and i still dont really know what there policys are. I came home after being away for 5 weeks and i could barely open my door for leaflets from labour and the torys. I havent had one leaflet from them.

 

Have you ever wondered how much it costs to canvas the country with these leaflets? Or where that money comes from? Labour essentially get their blank cheque from the Unions and the Tories get it from peers like Lord Ashcroft. The lack of such canvassing from smaller parties is simply down to the fact that they can't afford it. They can't secure huge backing because they are unlikely to get in to power and thus any large financial backers are unlikely to get any return on their investment.

 

Can someone tell me what Lib Dems would actually do if they got to power, because I sure as hell struggle to find that out.

 

http://www.libdems.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/PDF/Pocket%20Guide%20March%202010.pdf

 

That's the brief outline, with more specific details available on their site. It's not ordered in a "strongest policies first" way though, so you pretty much have to read the whole thing to get a measure of what they plan on a national scale.

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I got a bit of everything on that quiz also (although no BNP :heh:), although it turns out I love the UKIP education policy, which suprises me. I'm not so keen on their views on Europe, however...

 

Anyway, I have a bit of a problem because I want to vote for neither Conservative nor Labour, yet am not totally enamoured with the Lib Dems either. However, if voting based on constituency (which is what you're supposed to do), then I like the look of them, although my constituency is a permanent Lib Dem seat anyway. I basically want lots of educational reform along the lines of UKIP, including an increase in vocational courses and reduction of academic ones. The problem, however, is that I also think the academic higher eduction that remains needs a much better distribution of funding, less along the use-based lines in which it seems to be heading, and I doubt UKIP are hugely for that. Furthermore, I want us to stay in Europe (with certain reservations) and have very liberal immigration policies.

 

I'd like a hung parliament, to be honest. :heh:

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Which party is Cameron? Am I a bad person for wanting him to win?

 

Conservatives. Also known as the "Tory" party.

 

As their name suggests, they essentially want to keep things the same - as in, keep the rich rich, and keep schools running the way they were in the past, frown upon gays and people that aren't married etc etc.

 

Obviously that's a really facile summary, but essentially they're the people NOT to vote for if you are liberal / aren't particularly rich.

 

So yeah, you should probs vote for Lib Dems - they're the most realistic, since everyone hates Labour atm - or Green, if you're interested in telling a joke.

 

UKIP has things to tell too, but I hate the pointless self-removal from the EU. Why burn bridges? I'd prefer to be in the bosom of all the essential countries of the world.

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The test doesn't work for me, either, so I can't find out which party represents my views the most. In general I'm a liberal socialist, meaning I believe in the freedom of the people as well as a large public sector.

 

As far as I can gather from this thread, it seems like the UK voting system follows the American voting system somewhat in that votes are "lost" because of the way total votes are counted. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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