Ashley Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 I also assume you mean games since April 2018 and not just during that month š I wonder if those with a problem will still show your old one and if people can still find you with your old one? Otherwise things like Destiny, Overwatch etc will be buggered. Unless it can be patched in by choice and it's only guaranteed by default from April.Ā
Rummy Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Ashley said: I also assume you mean games since April 2018 and not just during that month š I wonder if those with a problem will still show your old one and if people can still find you with your old one? Otherwise things like Destiny, Overwatch etc will be buggered. Unless it can be patched in by choice and it's only guaranteed by default from April.Ā I'm imaging the base tags will all stay taken and not overwritten, and the 'change' being something sort of on top/patched in but some old code or infrastructure can't neccessarily follow it. Personally not got any intention to change but if I did I'd probably want to wait it out and be sure it's all working ok before I did - but I guess for some that might forego them the jump on the name they really want.
Ronnie Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 PSN setting the standard once again... Ā Ā Ā 1
Rummy Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ronnie said: PSN setting the standard once again... Ā Ā Ā Tbh it isn't actually so much a psn issue I imagine but rather more a system software hole left that leaves some overflow vulnerability or something. It's bad that the system can be 'broken' like this but it is something that comes with more dynamic systems. We should take some solace in the fact they've not yet so far been discovered to have released easily hard hackable hardware such as the launch Switches and it's vulnerability (especially in comparison to it's far less robust online structure that could leave more regular players exposed to abuse of said hack) but I think we both know where that conversation is going to go. That's no doubt a far harder problem for them to patch(and if offer evidence of the original BootMii and Wii as an example of this when they had to revise the hardware). Also take into account that if your console DOES somehow get bricked by this vulnerability you do still have easy home solutions to the problem even if it IS a full restore - again far more than what is offered on a similar front from Nintendo for a similar issue afaik. You could argue it being something similar to a lack of foresight by Sony on the PSN names issue tho. On the side of it for anyone who does recieve it - apparently if it DOES brick the PS4 and you can't get back in even if you do delete the message somehow - it's worth trying the recovery/safe mode database rebuild before going hard at a full restore - I recall reading some who weren't able to fix it with just the delete had success with both.Ā
Ronnie Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Amazing.Ā Anywaaay, things like this just reinforce my decision not to renew PS+. Playstationās whole infrastructure needs a reboot and I imagine they know it.Ā For now Iāve changed my privacy settings so that only friends can message, suggest people do the same. Bizarre how a string of smiley faces can cause that much chaos.Ā
S.C.G Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Ah well, I've disabled messaging on there for now, only way to be 100% sure I guess.
bob Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 I've got a few of those weird 'companionship' messages, but I always view them through the app on my phone and so they can't do any damage.
Ike Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Ronnie said: Amazing.Ā Anywaaay, things like this just reinforce my decision not to renew PS+. Playstationās whole infrastructure needs a reboot and I imagine they know it.Ā For now Iāve changed my privacy settings so that only friends can message, suggest people do the same. Bizarre how a string of smiley faces can cause that much chaos.Ā It's got nothing to do with the infrastructureĀ other than it the way it's delivered to the system, it's a bug in the firmware/os that isn't handling a certain combination of unicodeĀ characters correctly. Apple, Google and Whatsapp have all had similar bugs and (one of/)their primary focus is messaging. 1
killthenet Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 I've been hesitant to turn my PS4 on since reading these reports, have just logged into the app to check my settings are private and luckily they were already. I always found it weird that spam accounts could message anyone if their settings were open, I've never really engaged with the messaging side of things but have had a couple of messages claiming to be from hot girls so I must have just decided to turn them off.
drahkon Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 So it wasn't that big of a deal and it's already fixedĀ
Ronnie Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 Making you need to factory reset your PS4 isn't a big deal? The replies to that post aren't exactly the most flattering. Loads of people with consoles that still need a reset because of it, and Sony's aloofness about the whole thing has rubbed them up the wrong way. Oh well.
Shorty Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 A factory reset wasn't required, from what I understand, just a database rebuild, which takes some time but doesn't have any lasting effect.
drahkon Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Making you need to factory reset your PS4 isn't a big deal? The replies to that post aren't exactly the most flattering. Loads of people with consoles that still need a reset because of it, and Sony's aloofness about the whole thing has rubbed them up the wrong way. Oh well. To back up what @ShortyĀ said. Option 5. Just 5 minutes of your time is needed and everything is back to the way it was before. So yeah, no big deal. Edited October 16, 2018 by drahkon
Kav Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 On 09/10/2018 at 11:26 AM, Kav said: Help a guy out... Ā Iām useless at making decisions!Ā
Ronnie Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Shorty said: A factory reset wasn't required, from what I understand, just a database rebuild, which takes some time but doesn't have any lasting effect. That's just it, from what you understand. It's confusing a ton of people, and it would be nice if Playstation actually acknowledged this hack without being dismissive and was clear in how to manage it. Some people can't seem to get into Safe Mode to rebuild. Ā
Goafer Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 12 hours ago, drahkon said: To back up what @ShortyĀ said. Option 5. Just 5 minutes of your time is needed and everything is back to the way it was before. So yeah, no big deal. But, but... Oh yeah? Well Sony still suck. 1
Jimbob Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Heard about these messages causing system issues, mostly affecting people who had messages open to all.Ā Those who had private (aka friends only) seemed to not be affected.
Rummy Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 On 16/10/2018 at 10:31 AM, Ronnie said: Making you need to factory reset your PS4 isn't a big deal? The replies to that post aren't exactly the most flattering. Loads of people with consoles that still need a reset because of it, and Sony's aloofness about the whole thing has rubbed them up the wrong way. Oh well. Now, my post already addressed this and suggested the database rebuild over the full restore - so stop playing the fool. In addition they has been reinforced by others offering you graphic evidence of it being option 5 - so stop misrepresenting the situation that you're clearly unable to understand even when it's being pointed out to you. In addition to which however I'll offer some personal experience and counter @ShortyĀ - I've done a few rebuilds due to issues with my ps4 over last few years(as well as full backup and restore due to drive upgrade) and whilst I've heard that the rebuild CAN take a while - I don't believe any of mine have broken anything more than 5-10 minutes. Can you explain to me how someone re-initialized their ps4 without getting into safe mode btw? Or how/why they couldn't get into it? As far as i understand(and ofc, it's just what I understand even though demonstrated the same thing Sony have officially stated prior to you stating otherwise) - there is not a way for users to re-initialize a ps4 other than through safe mode. Ofc, it's just from what I understand and you surely know more - if you can find that solution and provide it to me I'll be happy to agree with your criticisms @Ronnie but if you can't then that supposed claim holds no water.
Ronnie Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 No idea. I just quoted one of the many tweets I saw complaining about PSās fix and/orĀ dismissive tone. Glad it works for most people though. I switched my messages to private just to be sure.Ā
Hero-of-Time Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 I see PSN was in fact borked last night. For a few hours the thing went down and people were being kicked from games, unable to play online and you couldn't access you're friends list. It didn't effect me in any real way as I was just watching TV on my PS4 but a couple of my friends were texting me asking me if I knew what was going on.
Rummy Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ronnie said: No idea. I just quoted one of the many tweets I saw complaining about PSās fix and/orĀ dismissive tone. Glad it works for most people though. I switched my messages to private just to be sure.Ā Ā "That's just it, from what you understand." You wanna sort out your glaring hypocrisy here @Ronnie, I didn't even realise everyone else would come in to school you, let alone an admission from yourself of undertaking the same criticism made to others. Maybe despite how much it pains you to realise it you may in future accept the points made by myself and others before trotting out claims you can't even back up with any logical process?
Rummy Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said: I see PSN was in fact borked last night. For a few hours the thing went down and people were being kicked from games, unable to play online and you couldn't access you're friends list. It didn't effect me in any real way as I was just watching TV on my PS4 but a couple of my friends were texting me asking me if I knew what was going on. On that I was online for a lot of last night and did notice a few friendslist issues(as did a few of the OW guys) but the network itself wasn't too bad for me. I was mostly in Diablo but finding lots of online games to jump into with only one being laggy to a point of noticing (like a solid second to two between button press and cast at times) so I'm wondering if it was more the friendlist side of things than anything else or if certain games are not vulnerable to these things than others etc.
Hero-of-Time Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Rummy said: On that I was online for a lot of last night and did notice a few friendslist issues(as did a few of the OW guys) but the network itself wasn't too bad for me. I was mostly in Diablo but finding lots of online games to jump into with only one being laggy to a point of noticing (like a solid second to two between button press and cast at times) so I'm wondering if it was more the friendlist side of things than anything else or if certain games are not vulnerable to these things than others etc. I checked Sony's site as it was happening ( you get to click on a link on your PS4 when there are errors when testing a connection ) and they said there were network issues. No idea what they actually were but people weren't able to sign in at all, which was stopping them from playing their games online.
Ronnie Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Rummy said: Ā "That's just it, from what you understand." You wanna sort out your glaring hypocrisy here @Ronnie, I didn't even realise everyone else would come in to school you, let alone an admission from yourself of undertaking the same criticism made to others. Maybe despite how much it pains you to realise it you may in future accept the points made by myself and others before trotting out claims you can't even back up with any logical process? No oneās schooled me. Least of all you. Stop being so needlessly rude. The whole situation hasnāt been helped by Sonyās strangely muted or dismissive tone.Ā Edited October 17, 2018 by Ronnie
Ronnie Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said: I see PSN was in fact borked last night. For a few hours the thing went down and people were being kicked from games, unable to play online and you couldn't access you're friends list. It didn't effect me in any real way as I was just watching TV on my PS4 but a couple of my friends were texting me asking me if I knew what was going on. PSN still leading the way,Ā as per. Edited October 17, 2018 by Ronnie
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