Daft Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Confirmed For PlayStation 4 Let the game confirmations begin.
nekunando Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 It was pretty long, too. Started off a bit ropey but it got a bit more interesting once the games were being shown, but I wonder if it could have been half an hour shorter? I'm not impressed with the controller at all as I've never liked the Dual Shock/original controller design, and by now you would have expected Sony to have revamped it massively. Can't get used to that controller and I just don't like it. One thing I found was the lack of charm in any of that conference. I've always found Sony very cold, but I know some people like the way they do things, but they don't really speak to me. "Here is our controller, it does this, here are our specs, here is Killzone, look at how much is happening on screen." I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but they don't seem to have as much personality or charm as Nintendo, even in their conferences. If you're a Sony fan, it was a good show. It hasn't really done anything to say to me that I should choose a PS4 next gen, so I won't be getting one. Pleased that WatchDogs is coming to WiiU mind, that's the best thing about yesterday for me. I can't really disagree with any of that, particularly the lack of charm throughout the conference.. All Nintendo need to do at E3 is show a couple of new IPs, Metroid and Mario Kart in playable form along with a glimpse into the future of new Mario and Zelda titles and any fears I have about the future of Wii U will quickly fade away
Lens of Truth Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Well having caught up now and watched the majority of the show I thought it was pretty decent. I like that Sony are trying to be as versatile and forward thinking in the feature set as possible (who cares if it's "me too"). Some of it seemed a bit wank and the presentations themselves were the usual cringey, overlong stuff, but the content was pretty interesting. Only a couple of the games peaked my interest, but I'm definitely in the wowed camp if those graphics in the Capcom demo are real-time. Witness looks interesting as well. PCs are just not appealing to me as a gaming platform. I really like the fixed hardware base of a console and ringing every last drop out of it. Also there's something I just find alienating about playing on a PC these days unless it's a strategy game The reaction has been surprisingly tepid so far, but I think that's mainly because it was massively over-hyped AND certain crucial elements were missing (that will come at E3). Zechs is bang-on though saying that if this was Nintendo there'd be some blindingly obvious trolling to be had over only showing the controller Overall, it's the evolutionary step I was hoping for.
not_so_tiny Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Zechs is bang-on though saying that if this was Nintendo there'd be some blindingly obvious trolling to be had over only showing the controller So the Dualshock 4, it's like an add-on for the PS3 right?
Murr Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 One thing I found was the lack of charm in any of that conference. I've always found Sony very cold, but I know some people like the way they do things, but they don't really speak to me. "Here is our controller, it does this, here are our specs, here is Killzone, look at how much is happening on screen." I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but they don't seem to have as much personality or charm as Nintendo, even in their conferences. The guy that was demonstrating Drive Club...I think he's an exceptions to that. He actually seemed really happy to be showing off his work, there was alot of enthusiasm and you got impression he was proud of his work and couldn't wait to show it to us. He almost sounded disappointed when his demo was over. If you're a Sony fan, it was a good show. It hasn't really done anything to say to me that I should choose a PS4 next gen, so I won't be getting one. Pleased that WatchDogs is coming to WiiU mind, that's the best thing about yesterday for me. Not really a Sony fan, but I did think it was a good show. I think more eye opening really. Never played Infamous, Not played Killzone 3, Couldn't care for the move part. But just seeing the horse power. As @Daft said in a different thread, it was like Next Gen had officially begun. (Despite the Wii U getting the early start).
bryanee Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I cant believe some of the comments around the web are saying the new KZ is only slightly prettier than what we have now. Glasses all round I think.
Zechs Merquise Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I cant believe some of the comments around the web are saying the new KZ is only slightly prettier than what we have now. Glasses all round I think. I disagree. It's clearly a better looking game. But it's not something that is blowing people away. I think people have become so over focused on graphics they were expecting the moon on a stick! It's not better than mods for games on high end PCs and a decent quality PC would push those graphics out. Before people ask why they don't, it's down to development costs and shared assets being used between three builds of the game - PC/PS3/360. Don't get me wrong, it looks really nice. But it's not the crazy leap some people have been predicting. But personally, if I was a Sony fan I'd be happy with the system specs and happy with the demo - although I would asking the question 'will it run at 60fps', because to me that's a bigger deal than all the pretty effects and details.
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 It's not better than mods for games on high end PCs and a decent quality PC would push those graphics out. Any examples?
not_so_tiny Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) In my case, it's not the graphics that have been disappointing, they are obviously very high end, but the PS4 games on show so far. Show me something different. Any examples? There are some insanely impressive Skyrim mods that have blown me away. Edited February 21, 2013 by not_so_tiny Automerged Doublepost
Daft Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Not really a Sony fan, but I did think it was a good show. I think more eye opening really. Never played Infamous, Not played Killzone 3, Couldn't care for the move part. But just seeing the horse power. As @Daft said in a different thread, it was like Next Gen had officially begun. (Despite the Wii U getting the early start). Before I get lynched, I said if a crappy third party like Capcom can make something that looks as impressive as Deep Down then that's all the reassurance I need.
Shorty Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 are some insanely impressive Skyrim mods that have blown me away. You mean the ones that can't get more than 10fps unless you're linking up 2 or more 7970s? (at £350 each)
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 There are some insanely impressive Skyrim mods that have blown me away. I've seen some amazingly impressive screenshots. And some of the required mods for graphics like that are labelled "For making screenshots only. Not for playing."
Zechs Merquise Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Any examples? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506297 Have a look there for starters. What's more, as I've already stated, as assets are shared between the console and PC versions to reduce costs you're only seeing beefed up versions of the console games on PCs. These PCs are capable of much more if you developed a game from scratch for them without having to create assets that run on consoles.
not_so_tiny Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah, just looked in it properly and I stand corrected, still, very impressive screenshots :P Looking across the board, I am surprised by the lukewarm reaction to the reveal, I expected 'graphics nuts' to be salivating over it, maybe our interests have change or was the conference hyped by he press too much?
Fused King Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Fuck motion control, fuck revolutionizing ideas. Give us more power and more quality games. Jonathan Blow and David Cage would not fuck. I've come to terms with the facts that more and more the revolutionary ideas in gaming are to be found in the indie scene.
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I don't trust screenshots. Any video? Or the actual content used in the screenshots.
Retro_Link Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Here's a video of the controller for anyone who didn't see it... I just realised why clapping always sounds unenthusiastic in press conferences these days... because there's only about 10 people not taking pictures on their smart phones. Edited February 21, 2013 by Retro_Link
not_so_tiny Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Fuck motion control, fuck revolutionizing ideas. Give us more power and more quality games. I would say revolutionizing ideas = quality games. The FPS genre was a revolutionary idea once for example...now it feels like they are beating a dead horse. Destiny seems impressive with the whole 'shared world' concept, but I am so far from interested in the new Killzone unless they show me how it does things the PS3 couldn't do gameplay-wise.
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Such easy sharing of screenshots and especially video is a "revolutionizing" idea. As long as it's not confined to Facebook.
dwarf Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) I think we now expect all conferences to be a tad dull. At this event there was no call for Sony to be charismatic - it was their show and they had a lot to say, even if a great deal of it was standardised mumbo jumbo. E3 will be about the games. People who're saying 'oh it's just better graphics' can leave the room. What are you actually demanding? What concrete ideas do you have? It would take a virtual reality controller or something ridiculous to keep you quiet. The features that Gakai and PSN are offering are plentiful and fantastic and are not to be glossed over. Also worth considering is the improvement in the graphics and physics engines over the life-cycle. The differences between the original Uncharted and Uncharted 3 were plain to see. It takes time to squeeze out the juice. I have no interest in the new Killzone but visually it's amazing, and the system isn't even finalised yet. Arguing about what high-end PCs can do is pointless. It's expensive and mostly hypothetical. Edited February 21, 2013 by dwarf
not_so_tiny Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Such easy sharing of screenshots and especially video is a "revolutionizing" idea. As long as it's not confined to Facebook. Completely agree, it's a really exciting feature, but I would argue that it won't effect the gameplay, just how you advertise it.
Retro_Link Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah I don't understand complaints about the conference being dull, this wasn't E3, this was a far more techy/industry focused reveal. They had a lot to talk about. I'm glad you could come away from the conference largely understanding the console and Sony's vision for it.
Oxigen_Waste Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I was hoping for a Vita price drop, damnit...
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