Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Can use the Vita as a game pad for games. Which looked suspiciously like how one would use the Wii U GamePad with games. It also looked suspiciously like one would use the PSP with remote play games. Obviously, they improved the streaming and opened it to more games because of the Wii U. Still the most pointless feature ever.
madeinbeats Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) So I've had a scoot around to get a feel for the reception, and it seems really wishy-washy. Mostly a negative or lukewarm response to the social features; no one is talking about this Kinect device; and most surprising I see barely anyone talking about game streaming. Most of the focus has been reduced down to talking about 8Gigs of RAM! I find that pretty sad. It was on late, and it is early morning though. It also looked suspiciously like one would use the PSP with remote play games. Obviously, they improved the streaming and opened it to more games because of the Wii U. Still the most pointless feature ever. People need to remember that the Wii U will always do this right out of the box, and developers can design games with this feature integral - though it will have to bare better use than it has already for that value to stand out as apparent and worthwhile. Edited February 21, 2013 by madeinbeats Automerged Doublepost
Ramar Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The one thing that concerns me with PS4 (and rumoured NextBox) is that I might as well go buy a top end PC.
Serebii Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 ...You have to be joking. You're actually worse than Choze. Congratulations. My Laptop is awesome. What's the problem?
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The one thing that concerns me with PS4 (and rumoured NextBox) is that I might as well go buy a top end PC. Hasn't that always been the case? No inFamous, Killzone, Naughty Dog or many other games on PC.
Sheikah Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 My Laptop is awesome. What's the problem? The problem is that it won't be more powerful than the PS4, and we're left thinking you as a loyal Nintendoist probably haven't ever really had to sweet specs to appreciate and understand. :p
Serebii Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The problem is that it won't be more powerful than the PS4, and we're left thinking you as a loyal Nintendoist probably haven't ever really had to sweet specs to appreciate and understand. :p It's about even tbh :p My PC, on the otherhand...
Sheikah Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 It's about even tbh :p My PC, on the otherhand... Post your specs then. Also don't bother listing that you have 16GB of RAM or more than the PS4 as that will show that you don't really understand what makes a powerful console.
V. Amoleo Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The RAM is the only impressive thing specs-wise about the PlayStation 4. No consumer PC/laptop will ever use GDDR5 as system memory. Edit: That's not saying the rest is rubbish. I just don't think it's fair how people are shouting down @Serebii over it.
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The RAM is the only impressive thing specs-wise about the PlayStation 4. No consumer PC/laptop will ever use GDDR5 as system memory. PCs require much better specs to get the same results as consoles.
-Dem0- Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I'm waiting for more footage & info on Ground Zeroes (probably E3) and the future of the Metal Gear series.
drahkon Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I love how everyone is bashing the PS4 one day after its announcement, months before E3 and even more months before its release. What did people expect? The cure for cancer? It's a console. Targeted at people who like consoles. Yes, PCs can do more, yes the WiiU has a controller that provides streaming from the console without a 200€ device and yes porn should've been a major aspect in the press conference. Nobody cares. Graphics are incredible for a console. And if the PS3 is anything to go by, its successor will have an amazing game catalogue to offer one or two years after its launch. I'm pretty Sure Sony and third parties will be able to show a lot at E3. And I cannot understand how people aren't blown away by this, because if this is an indication of the next console generation then I'll be happy to see what Microsoft has to offer, seeing as the rumored specs for Sony's and their console are quite simmilar. Gamers should take their heads out of their asses, get off the stupid 'fanboy-ship' and just enjoy how technology improves over the years.
V. Amoleo Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 PCs require much better specs to get the same results as consoles. Of course they do with the overhead of the OS and the fact they're multi-tasking devices. But with the switch to the x86 architecture they're more comparable now than they ever have been.
Serebii Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The RAM is the only impressive thing specs-wise about the PlayStation 4. No consumer PC/laptop will ever use GDDR5 as system memory. Edit: That's not saying the rest is rubbish. I just don't think it's fair how people are shouting down @Serebii over it. Thanks. While I may have a preference to Nintendo, I get all the consoles and enjoy them. Last gen I played my 360 far more than my Wii. I try to stay impartial and the general consensus around the net is that the PS4 still doesn't reach the heights of higher tier PCs and it's somewhat unfair to go off t me just because of this
V. Amoleo Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 What did people expect? The cure for cancer? I thought that's what we were doing with Folding@Home on the PS3! :p
bob Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 and yes porn should've been a major aspect in the press conference. In every press conference from now on, i think.
Serebii Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Nobody cares. Graphics are incredible for a console. And if the PS3 is anything to go by, its successor will have an amazing game catalogue to offer one or two years after its launch. I'm pretty Sure Sony and third parties will be able to show a lot at E3. And I cannot understand how people aren't blown away by this, because if this is an indication of the next console generation then I'll be happy to see what Microsoft has to offer, seeing as the rumored specs for Sony's and their console are quite simmilar. For me it's because it's the same stuff as before, just with prettier graphics
Agent Gibbs Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Apologies if this end up in a long post, finally able to post I found that really dull overall. I'm really excited about the capabilities of the console, Overall view about the event today: Console has a lot of potential. There is a serious possibility of Sony getting back into the swing of things with this thing. The openness of it, the community aspects, the actually decent hardware specification by console standards for their price range.. Looking forward to hearing more. The Wii U is going to have a hard time justifying itself and I can't wait to see Microsoft respond. But, a lot of it left me very confused. Why are we dealing with the tech demo shenanigans again? They very rarely are faithful to the final product, no matter who is showing it for what platform. Show us some gameplay, sheesh. The biggest offender of this complaint is the fucking dumbasses who thought it would be good to demonstrate the power of the console with a fucking face. Sure, it's impressive, but in what situation would allow just one fucking face on the screen in a video game to drain all of the consoles power? What about other characters? What about other faces? What about the scenery? Classic bullshit. Another thing that strikes me as odd is there apparent low standards for third parties stepping up to the mic. I'd laugh Square Enix out the fucking building if they came up to me and said that's what they were intending to show case. Destiny is a big deal considering the hype, so I'll let that slide. But c'mon, allowing certain over devs to come up to the mic and announce ports? Especially Diablo 3, I was expecting something decent after the guy was bragging about how making console games was in the studios blood. This is stuff they should have saved for E3. The first part of it was spot on, going through the mission statement and how the machine works, whilst showing some content. Maybe they just had it go on for too long? I don't know. I agree with that, overall it was dull, mainly because off all the bullshit tech demo's and monologues by the bald society. it could have been an hour shorter and 100x more awesome if it was, the filler bogged it down I did get the feeling that nothing much we didn't already know was announced it was more just confirming the leaks.......not such a bad thing but those leaks stopped a lot of shock value for me but that DS4 was sexual I will undoubtedly get one, but not at launch and definitely not at the rumoured price. Nintendo don't have too much to worry about here. regarding your first point.....WHAT PRICE? good lord don't leave me in suspense as for the second i'll come back to that I've just managed to watch the reveal. I'm not overly impressed. It felt like they were just saying "Me Too!" to everything. Can share things to Facebook from within games making the "first gaming social network with meaning". Which I'm guessing is trying to emulate Miiverse. Can use the Vita as a game pad for games. Which looked suspiciously like how one would use the Wii U GamePad with games. Has a camera which can detect depth. I know that Sony started the whole EyeToy thing but this looked like a "Me Too!" for the Kinect. Now you say that like its a bad thing, the way i see it is that now the PS4 and WiiU are very similar in the feature they offer AND unique gaming IP's, where as Microsoft and Next box now don't have nearly as much going for them, they have very few IP's left, Charge for online and won't offer off screen play.......if they restrict used games then well they are dead. I can see the lead console being the ps4, with things porting to WiiU and the next box, but the nextbox being the looser of this generation ...You have to be joking. You're actually worse than Choze. Congratulations. He could have one of those ridiculously expensive gaming laptops that cost between £3k and £10k The one thing that concerns me with PS4 (and rumoured NextBox) is that I might as well go buy a top end PC. That is a fear i have, but with a Ps4 its a little easier for most people to deal with and they won't have to worry about a game coming out their console can't handle anymore, i know my pc can't handle new games now and is in need of replacement, but with a console they last much longer till they need replacing..........well they seem to, for the average joe and that is more of the ps market, pc gaming experiences but with the convenience of a console Edited February 21, 2013 by Agent Gibbs
Cube Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 regarding your first point.....WHAT PRICE? good lord don't leave me in suspense The only rumoured price I've seen is £300.
Daft Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks. While I may have a preference to Nintendo, I get all the consoles and enjoy them. Last gen I played my 360 far more than my Wii. I try to stay impartial and the general consensus around the net is that the PS4 still doesn't reach the heights of higher tier PCs and it's somewhat unfair to go off t me just because of this I'm just going to deal with facts here. You like facts. In fact, you said this. Graphically, it's a nice step up, but my PC and laptop can do better and they aren't even top-range, and that's disappointing. Also closed specs have a massive advantage over scalable PC specs. He could have one of those ridiculously expensive gaming laptops that cost between £3k and £10k Yeah, good point, my bad. So Serebii, what laptop and desktop do you have? I wouldn't mind upgrading mine.
drahkon Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) For me it's because it's the same stuff as before, just with prettier graphics This has been the case with PC gaming since...well...the beginning of PC gaming. And exactly this is what the majority of gamers/gaming journalists/analists wanted. Fuck motion control, fuck revolutionizing ideas. Give us more power and more quality games. Sony (and Nintendo - in their own way) has given us this (the power, not the games...). Microsoft will give us the same (maybe with Kincet but whatever). The only thing that's missing is new IPs (maybe even older IPs like Crash Bandicoot, Banjo Kazooie, finally a fucking good HD Zelda or Mario, Metroid...). For consoles and for PC. In that regard every developer has to improve. Edited February 21, 2013 by drahkon
Agent Gibbs Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah, good point, my bad. So Serebii, what laptop and desktop do you have? I wouldn't mind upgrading mine. i can't tell if your being sarcastic, just like i can't tell if you knew i was being sarcastic.......its too early lack of sleep...can't comprehend this, was up late watching bald me masturbate on a stage He won't have one of those mind you, and now seeing that second quote you did its all but confirmed it ain't a money bags laptop did my first post make my views clear? i was underwhelmed because the filler made it boring, but solely regarding the PS4/DS4 and Killzone i am jizzing my pants off
Kaepora_Gaebora Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The PS Vita is a very neat unit, it's an intelligent way to boost sales of something that deserves to be boosted. It is superior to the 3DS in hardware and therefore doesn't limit game developers as much in the graphics department. It's kinda sad that the inferior unit gets more big hitter support. Capcom fancy a word regarding Resident Evil Revelations Seriously though surely it doesn't matter how powerful a console is anymore, more what they can do. I was much more interested in what the console could do (share, spectating etc) than how much grunt it has under the hood, considering judging by the admittedly early demos and gameplay, the leap isn't as big as it used to be. Still I thought it was a fairly good showing in terms of what the console can do, though having watched it again I stand by my Killzone thoughts, looked generic and some of the physics looked naff.
madeinbeats Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 How much are people willing to pay for this out of interest? PC specs mean PC prices, and these costs will get passed on to the consummer at somepoint if not at the checkout, via subscription services. I can't see this costing that much less than the PS3 was at launch myself.
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