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REGION FREE?

 

It seems like it. This is great news as I like to import my RPGs as soon as they hit the US. Why Nintendo decided against region free gaming with the 3DS is beyond me.

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He was hoping each ps3 game comes with a free Vita game, and vice-versa.

 

That is pretty much the big question for me too. I don't have a PS3 but having that kind of interchangeable experience without the need to buy two copies of the same software would be a big push for me to buy one.

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I have to say, the region free thing has in many ways made this console infinitely more desirable to me than a 3DS.

 

It's like I could buy this, for the same price, have access to the massive catalogue of PSP titles I missed (via PSN) and the potential for outstanding games in the future (and undoubtedly massive support from Japanese developers if the PSP's success is anything to go by).

 

If it was just that and both were region free though, I'd partly still swing to Nintendo out of pure fanboyism, but the fact that I could play games from anywhere on the Vita and would be limited to Europe on the 3DS...well that just really seals the deal. Well, that and multi-touch. Thanks for innovating touch screen gaming Nintendo and then insisting on keeping the technology at square one forever!

 

Honestly, at this point, Sony kind of deserve to take the handheld market. Unless the software on this turns out to be a complete failure...somehow.

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I have to say, the region free thing has in many ways made this console infinitely more desirable to me than a 3DS.

 

It's like I could buy this, for the same price, have access to the massive catalogue of PSP titles I missed (via PSN) and the potential for outstanding games in the future (and undoubtedly massive support from Japanese developers if the PSP's success is anything to go by).

 

If it was just that and both were region free though, I'd partly still swing to Nintendo out of pure fanboyism, but the fact that I could play games from anywhere on the Vita and would be limited to Europe on the 3DS...well that just really seals the deal. Well, that and multi-touch. Thanks for innovating touch screen gaming Nintendo and then insisting on keeping the technology at square one forever!

 

Honestly, at this point, Sony kind of deserve to take the handheld market. Unless the software on this turns out to be a complete failure...somehow.

 

Basically sums up exactly how I feel. For me with 3DS Nintendo have destroyed touch screen as their thing. The fact that your focussing on the screen and the 3D so hard to get the most out of the effect, almost makes the touchscreen a redundant control method. Whereas the Vita offers up a better screen as an option for controlling along with all the control options we have become accustomed to with modern console gaming.

 

One thing I do think thats going against Sony is the use of the Vita as the name and their branding that it means liife and that the Vita will blur the lines between real life and gaming life making the two work together. This almost aids drawing comparisons between Vita and iPad. This very notion of a life device is what the iPad has become for many people. I don't Sony means to mean this quite the same way or draw this negative comparison but inevitably it will and has (there has been coverage to suggest such already with people saying I'd never take this out of my iPad/iphone)

 

I also love how one of the most talked about games is Sound Shapes which is just a simple rhythm game. I only hope they sort out their online stuff in this regards and sell them cheaper than Minis have been thus far.

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I think the most sensible option is to own both 3DS and Vita.

 

That way you won't need to be biased.

 

Realistically though, I think the Vita is going to wipe the floor with the 3DS. Then again, I thought the same thing about the PSP and look how that turned out...

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It's strange that Nintendo made the decision to region lock the DS. In the past, handheld consoles were always region free because they had universally the same screen and so never had to worry about different screen refresh rates or other hardware differences. Now it's being locked as a conscious decision, just to limit importing. Which would be fine if all games came out everywhere in the end, but they don't.

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Listening to a GiantBombcast and they made some interesting points about Vita.

 

Mostly that they didn't think it was the PSP's power that failed it.

 

And yet Sony seem to be doubling down on hardware.

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I think the most sensible option is to own both 3DS and Vita.

 

That way you won't need to be biased.

Realistically though, I think the Vita is going to wipe the floor with the 3DS. Then again, I thought the same thing about the PSP and look how that turned out...

 

Yeah i do have this problem that I cannot bare to be apart from Nintendo's amazing franchises so owning both makes sense.

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the big big thing was the announcement of the Playstation Vita, although we have seen details of it, but they hadn't revealed the name, and the Vita looks really good to be honest

 

it's got a dual analogue thumbstick button, which is brilliant, it's got a touch pad on the back, which is very interesting, which will lead to innovation. A multi-touch screen, phenomenal graphics, motion control, thruugs (3GS), wiffy version

 

Cheers, Rez.

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I think the biggest problem with the Vita is the games. The ones they showed (like Uncharted) I'd much, much rather play on a TV screen.

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Yeah i do have this problem that I cannot bare to be apart from Nintendo's amazing franchises so owning both makes sense.

 

That wasn't directed at you, specifically.

 

Besides, most people are biased.

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That wasn't directed at you, specifically.

 

Besides, most people are biased.

 

No no I didn't think you were. If anything it pains me now that I can't bare to be apart from Nintendo releases whilst no other developer quite has that pull for me. So I'm not biased in that way and feel no loyalty towards Sony it just suited me to get a PS3 when I did.

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No no I didn't think you were. If anything it pains me now that I can't bare to be apart from Nintendo releases whilst no other developer quite has that pull for me. So I'm not biased in that way and feel no loyalty towards Sony it just suited me to get a PS3 when I did.

 

I'm in the same boat. I'll always buy the typical Nintendo franchises and game systems to play them on, but this generation the PS3 and Xbox 360 are clearly the better consoles IMO.

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I think the biggest problem with the Vita is the games. The ones they showed (like Uncharted) I'd much, much rather play on a TV screen.

 

I could say the same for most 3DS games of interest we're seeing so far. I don't think games like Resident Evil Revelations are a particularly handheld focused experience.

 

Of course the thing with Vita too is...it streams direct to TV anyway I believe, so it's not a case of having to play it on the "small" screen, you can have it on TV anyway. Well as far as I'm aware that's an option.

 

At what point does a game reach the point where people would rather play it on TV than handheld anyway? Is this more due to the gameplay type suiting a cinematic experience, or because it seems "spoiled" on handheld when it may as well be a full blown HD experience on TV?

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At what point does a game reach the point where people would rather play it on TV than handheld anyway? Is this more due to the gameplay type suiting a cinematic experience, or because it seems "spoiled" on handheld when it may as well be a full blown HD experience on TV?

 

The definition of which type of game suits a handheld and which suits a big screen is probably as non-existent as the definition of a "hardcore" and a "casual" gamer.

 

But I'm in the same boat as Cube: things like Uncharted, I'd want to play on the TV with a controller.

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I think the biggest problem with the Vita is the games. The ones they showed (like Uncharted) I'd much, much rather play on a TV screen.

I think the problem with Sony games is that they are always best played on a big screen. I don't think I played one game on the PSP that I didn't think "I'd far prefer this if it was just on PS3". FF7 crisis core came to mind.

 

DS games have had a more pick up and play feel to them, and dare I say are more fun. But maybe they'll prove me wrong.

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"PS3 can send data down to Vita and Vita can display it. You could use the unique features -- gyroscope, touch front and back -- as a control device for a PS3 game," said Sony Europe's Phil Rogers at a Develop conference talk. "You can run software on both devices and use the network to sync the game states. And that's pretty good, because you then have the processing power of PS3 doing that work, Vita [doing] fancy graphics -- however you want to do it. You're not sacrificing the PS3's CPU to be able to have a rich experience on Vita."

 

Im gonna need to see this in practice but i love how they're building the Vita pretty much exactly the way i would, especially the ability to use it as a PS3 controller.

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Soooo basically it is going to have features like the Wii U concept is which is not going to be out till the end of next year!

 

From the way it's been talked about by some Sony execs, yes but only in a basic way as the Vita isn't designed specifically to carry out the same functions that the WiiU and it's controller have been shown to do/are going to do when released. Think of it more in line with the Gamecube to GBA connectivity but with some added gimmicks thrown in (touch screen/pad, motion).

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