canand Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Yeah, so far the only real thing I've found to actually appear to be floating/coming out of the screen, are the times when you get one of the Spiritual Stones or Emblems in Ocarina of Time. That was a bit of a wow moment actually! Yeah when they were raining down from the sky.
Captain Falcon Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I've only seen two instances whereby something felt as though it was popping out of the screen. The first was the blooming flower in that original download video and the other was the Luigi's Mansion 2 logo in the E3 trailer. What do they both have in common? An almost solid black background (the flower does, but the mansion has a lit window in shot). In both cases, there is a clear lack of reference points from which to determine a sense of depth. There is nothing placing the window in the distance and so it feels at screen level like the rest of the background. Consequently, the logo on top appears to come foreward. Same dealio with the flower. I think it probably helps that the outside of the case is also black as it helps to keep you focused on the screen.
Retro_Link Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Yeah when they were raining down from the sky. I meant the items you recieve after you complete a temple, either a spiritual stone or medallion... they hover out of the screen.
Ganepark32 Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Stuff pops out of the screen in Ridge Racer, such as confetti and water spray. Works rather nicely in that. Other than that and the rare instances in OoT3D, there hasn't been anything else that's popped out from my experience.
Aneres11 Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 In DOA Dimensions - when you are playing the Chronicles story mode - in the chapter select section, the top screen has images from the story mode that look like several pictures. The way they are layered makes it look like it is physically popping out at you. I love just looking at that in 3d haha. That's the best i've seen anyway - and the flower as mentioned!
ReZourceman Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 So collectively the best 3D we have seen is a 10 second portion of a 20 hour game, and a menu screen? Eep. Lol.
Coolness Bears Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 all the time, looks awesome. Adjust your eyes folks.
Captain Falcon Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 all the time, looks awesome. Adjust your eyes folks. All the time it appears as though it's popping out to you? (almost wrote pooping :p ) I think you might need to adjust your eyes before you break them.
khilafah Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 isnt the 3D effect on the 3DS more about the depth! expecting to see "pop-out" 3D is a mistake as you won't get it on majority of titles. I have heard Nintendogs + cats has very good pop out 3D effects. remember that most 3D films don't really have that "pop-out" TV effect either.
dazzybee Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Yeah, who's saying that just because it pops out it's the best? I detest pop out 3d in cinema and in a lto of games, it's fine it static things - like the dioramas in pilot wings, the ridge racer logo is great etc. For me I just love the depth it brings. Bizarrely I would say cap com have pretty much perfected 3D, everything is so clean, the depth is great, no ghosting. Better than nintendo bizarrely! Also, is it in the programming how far the 3D goes with regards to when you move your head? I can't play pro evo in 3d (even though I love it) because the images cross all the time! Is it because I'm getting in to it and jolting the DS about or is it because it just isn't as good?
david.dakota Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 There are some pop out effects on Pilotwings and Nintendogs, but its totally not suitable to a handheld - breaks the illusion of 3D in my option. I'd rather developers keep with depth and use the 3DS as a 'window'
Serebii Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Didn't Nintendo say that they try to do more depth than popout to make it easier on the eyes?
tapedeck Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Also, is it in the programming how far the 3D goes with regards to when you move your head? I can't play pro evo in 3d (even though I love it) because the images cross all the time! Is it because I'm getting in to it and jolting the DS about or is it because it just isn't as good? It's all about keeping the system still. I think that some games make you move more than you actually notice. For instance, in PES, you usea lot of buttons at multiple times meaning that the system will naturally move more. When I was reading some 3D TV reviews I remember people asking what movies had the best popout moments and some guy replied that the popout moments are gimmicky and that the real pleasure of the 3D is that it gives you the depth on-screen making the image appear as though you are looking "into" the world. Couldn't agree more. I like the popout effects as they are the "ooooh" moments but they also do come across as gimmicky at times. Avatar got it spot on with the floating seeds moment where they surrounded the screen at different depths. Games should be the same, especially when snow or rain come into effect. But keeping on topic of popout moments - the best moments for me have been the Pilotwings diorama's, OoT's snow when at Jabu Jabu's area as an adult and the replays in PES are amazing. You can get the camera round to where the ball is literally facing you with the player behind it and it looks like the ball has left the screen. Looks stunning. But better in slow motion or in stills. Edited July 9, 2011 by tapedeck
Mr-Paul Posted July 16, 2011 Posted July 16, 2011 Anyone know any good 3DS deals on at the moment? I'm finding it hard to resist buying one (I need Zelda!)
Shorty Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 It's difficult to have pop-out 3D on a small screen because, although you feel like it's expanding outwards, it can never be larger than the confines of the screen, hence why it only happens with small objects on the 3DS. The best 3D, and the the type of 3D the 3DS has aimed for, is the depth kind. Unrelated question: does anyone else find that the bottom half of the 3DS leaves marks/impressions on the top half? I'm finding vertical lines on my top screen like indentations from the border of the touchscreen, and today I even noticed a circle mark on the top half opposite the circle pad. I'm wondering if its just my case holding the DS too tightly.
Goron_3 Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 It's difficult to have pop-out 3D on a small screen because, although you feel like it's expanding outwards, it can never be larger than the confines of the screen, hence why it only happens with small objects on the 3DS. The best 3D, and the the type of 3D the 3DS has aimed for, is the depth kind. Unrelated question: does anyone else find that the bottom half of the 3DS leaves marks/impressions on the top half? I'm finding vertical lines on my top screen like indentations from the border of the touchscreen, and today I even noticed a circle mark on the top half opposite the circle pad. I'm wondering if its just my case holding the DS too tightly. Yeah it's a pretty massive design fault. I'm amazed they didn't pick up on this.
dazzybee Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Same here, rememebered thinking it was a scratch initially. Not a biggie, bit mildly annoying having to wipe it every time you play!
Agent Gibbs Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 If you contact nintendo they will replace the rubber feet on the screen under warranty, but it means giving up the 3DS for a while while its done, or you cold get some of those easy peel felt pads like on the bottom of electonic devices and put them in the top corners of the screen to do the same job I've put em on my screen and it stops the screen getting scratched by the bottom ones frame, but the thumb slider still leaves a smudge on it occasionally if the 3DS is clasped tightly (thus squashing it more) might send mine off soon to get a proper fix, but holiday first then send it off i think
Debug Mode Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Man, bad days be coming for the 3DS if this trend of cancelling games continues..
Burny Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Man, bad days be coming for the 3DS if this trend of cancelling games continues.. Are there any big games left to be canceled? Saints Row was canceled, but that game kind of never was seriously in development in the first place, the Assassin's Creed Game won't happen (probably for the better, going by previous portable games of the series) and now Mega Man Legends 3, which was already in limbo and didn't look exactly hot so far, got canceled. Out of the big announced 3rd party games that leaves Metal Gear Solid 3D and Resident Evil Revelations. If those were be canceled, I'd say there is reason to worry, but they seem to be pretty far along.
dazzybee Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Things do look pretty bleak. I mean, for Nintendo going apeshit with 3rd parties and realising that's their biggest weakness... This feel like the N64 days... That coupled with Wii u cannablising the handheld market, the rise of smartphones and tablets. Things look ultra bleak. But if anyone can pull out a handheld out of the gutter it's Nintendo!
Serebii Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Man, bad days be coming for the 3DS if this trend of cancelling games continues.. Yeah, 3 games...one of which was never actually greenlighted, is SO BAD Things do look pretty bleak. I mean, for Nintendo going apeshit with 3rd parties and realising that's their biggest weakness... This feel like the N64 days... That coupled with Wii u cannablising the handheld market, the rise of smartphones and tablets. Things look ultra bleak. But if anyone can pull out a handheld out of the gutter it's Nintendo! I fail to see how Wii U will cannibalise the handheld market. It is not a handheld
Debug Mode Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Yeah, 3 games...one of which was never actually greenlighted, is SO BAD Three BIG games I might add. There was a fuck tonne of fan interest in Mega Man Legends 3, this just seems like commercial suicide. Maybe if there were some ORIGINAL games on the horizon, I would agree with your view. But no, the line up of games to look forward to is dwindling by the day. But I honestly do not understand your sarcasm. This is terrible news for fans and Nintendo who is already experiencing a lack of third party confidence. Although the DS originally had a slow start like the 3DS currently is experiencing, it never suffered from such lack of confidence. I actually hope this shakes up some major shit within Nintendo so they can sort their shit out. Although sales have initially been good (don't know why people presume 3million units is TERRIBLE), the 3DS hasn't lived up to expectations. It is pretty much a handheld that is currently relying on ports and rehashes with aesthetic changes. God.. my confidence in Nintendo has been shot ever since the Wii came out. I would not argue with them dropping out of the hardware business and just being a developer. At least their games are good..
Grazza Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I have defended the 3DS and its games, and I stand by that, but it's definitely a concern if games for it are being cancelled. I'm still enjoying the initial batch of games, but we really need to see more that are on their way by now, especially from 3rd-parties. E3 in particular was disappointing, with (to my knowledge) Luigi's Mansion as the only 3DS game that hadn't been shown before. I can't remember if handheld games are shown at Tokyo Games Show, but I know GDC is the one where Nintendo shows off a really big handheld game like a Zelda. I think we need to see Zelda and Metroid ASAP, as well as some 3rd-party games. God.. my confidence in Nintendo has been shot ever since the Wii came out. I would not argue with them dropping out of the hardware business and just being a developer. At least their games are good.. Nor would I. It's not like the PS1/N64 or PS2/GameCube eras - the other companies' consoles are now objectively better than Nintendo's, always a whole generation ahead. I could not see any problems whatsoever with playing Nintendo games on a PS3 or PS4.
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