Jonnas Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 What actually determines your nationality? The nationality of your parents? The place you're born? The place you live? The place you're an official citizen of? Or ...? The nationality of your ID is whatever you choose it to be. The nationality/ethnicity we're discussing here is up to whatever you think you truly are, taking into consideration whatever you think it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimless Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Both my parents are English, so I presume I'd be that. I certainly abide by several of the cultural stereotypes. The thing is, England was a bit of a whipping boy in the past — everyone had a go at invading it. And then over the last 50 years or so there's been immigration from all over the world, and they've had children born and raised in this country; that generation are no less English than I am. With those things in mind I don't think being English means much at a physiological level. Basically, I see nationality as a psychological concept as opposed to an ancestral one. You assume the identity that best fits, not one foisted upon you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwolf Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Techanically I'm actually half irish (apprently scanlon is a very common irish name, which is new to me...) however, I was born and raised in england so I'm english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conzer16 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Scanlon is very common indeed - only in certain areas such as Limerick and Galway. More western areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 What actually determines your nationality? The nationality of your parents? The place you're born? The place you live? The place you're an official citizen of? Or ...? Basically, I see nationality as a psychological concept as opposed to an ancestral one. You assume the identity that best fits, not one foisted upon you. My ex had an entire module based around the question what is nationality?, and it's most definitely not just these fields and rocks that Mr England stuck a flag into all those weeks ago. The sense of belonging is a tribal need to feel protected, a part of yaddah yaddah yaddah *points to flags, food, fashion, sports, then gives up with point* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Buttons are Magic! Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Yeah, burning flags is so Middle-Eastern these days.... Yeah the whole island buttons, it IS one country after all, with one tumultuous history. tell that to some people i work with *cough* i consider myself irish - but my flatmate told me off last year for saying that, saying we were british i;m irish goddamit. im STILL IN IRELAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I was born in Portugal, but my mother was born in Luanda, so... do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I was born in Portugal, but my mother was born in Luanda, so... do the math. You're Mexican! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 You're Mexican! Holy shit it all makes sense now! Those americans on 4chan were right all along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hmmm, so many portuguese in Angola...How is the relationship between Angolese and Portuguese people?...You all get along in both countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hmmm, so many portuguese in Angola...How is the relationship between Angolese and Portuguese people?...You all get along in both countries? It's more because of our parents and grandparents generations, lots of people lived and created family there. Right now, I suppose most of the portuguese that live there, do so because of work, a lot of companies invest in Angola. With that said I don't know how things are rolling right now, I think I recall some racist crimes going on in Angola a few years back, with lots of white people getting killed, but I might be confusing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haden Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Im english as far back to both sides of grandparents. Unfortunatly my great grandad parent was scottish which means I have links with Moria... Hangs head in shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walfaeder Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Well, Grandma came over from Alaska, it explains the long and complicated name. Also the shortness, slitty eyes and the overwhelming urge I have to cut holes in ice looking for fish. Athabaskan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I'm Derbyshire born but Nottinghamshire bred. I'm a border baby. So yeah I'm english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hmmm, so many portuguese in Angola...How is the relationship between Angolese and Portuguese people?...You all get along in both countries? Around 1 million white Portuguese came back from the colonies after their independence, their called retornados. The relation between white and black Portuguese was/is pretty good, the colonies we're treated like part of the country instead of subordinates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddage Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 As far as I'm aware I'm 100% English, but then I have ginger hair, but dunno where that comes from or how far back. Although my dad is Cornish, I know some people consider that area to be a whole different region/country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hmmm, so many portuguese in Angola...How is the relationship between Angolese and Portuguese people?...You all get along in both countries? The relation between the Angolan and the Portuguese is good. As Shino said, colonies were well treated and we never had significant issues with racism. It's pretty much the same with other former Portuguese colonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfox Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 100% English, and I quite like being English - great place to be from! Pretty much English as far back as we know.. just have an Irish surname from somewhere... Just wish people were more proud to be British.. as Andrew Marr put it, "Being born British is an incredible stroke of luck" (or words to that effect). SNP can fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathjam Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 100% african/ghanain but parents emigrated here (dad studied in uni way back in like the 60s) and gave birth to me over here so I could be considered British. But really when people ask where are you from, you may say London. Then they say No, where are you FROM, to which I reply ghana. Tis hard to get a feeling of 'fit' though. When I went to ghana, I felt a lot like a foreigner rather than, "I am home". And, well, when I was in school at least, felt a lot like I didn't fit there, though it was a mainly white establishment with a lot of the kids being wealthy, when my family, at least over here, isn't. And now, most of the people I interact would call themselves 'street' or 'ghetto' so imagine how well I fit there. Though I am more comfortable with myself nowadays so this does not really play on my mind anymore. And dunno why King V but I thought you were Jamaican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Just wish people were more proud to be British.. as Andrew Marr put it, "Being born British is an incredible stroke of luck" (or words to that effect). SNP can fuck off. Being born an Englishman is to win the lottery of life. - Cecil Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jav_NE Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I wouldn't mind if i was born in America, anywhere else in Europe, Australia or Japan. But i do like England so i guess i'm proud to be Brittish in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Ninja0 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 100% tuga, AFAIK Sousa! I hate that! The Americans say it all the time. Britain is the Union of states including Scotland, Wales and England. And I'm betting you were talking about the inhabitants of the USA. Did you know Canadians hate being called Americans? You might also be offending them by not saying: "The Californian Texans say it all the time." I'm sorry but you're british. What now? Wanna go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iun Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Athabaskan? Telekutan Aleutian, came over from the archipelago to the mainland, so I am told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 100% tuga, AFAIK And I'm betting you were talking about the inhabitants of the USA. Did you know Canadians hate being called Americans? You might also be offending them by not saying: "The Californian Texans say it all the time." I'm sorry but you're british. What now? Wanna go? Well just as canada/mexico/brazil et al are part of The Americas, it's just as apt to call anyone from the continent "american". Did you know that there are many (not going to generalise) people who hate being called British, and much rather would be called irish, scottish, welsh or english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Well just as canada/mexico/brazil et al are part of The Americas, it's just as apt to call anyone from the continent "american". Did you know that there are many (not going to generalise) people who hate being called British, and much rather would be called irish, scottish, welsh or english. Except, y'know, those countries are not united by a treaty that says they're all in a single country. Add that to "Americans" becoming synonym with "people from the US" and we have pretty good reasons for them to not like being called that. Oh well, I guess you just need a few more centuries to get used to the idea of a united Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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