Daft Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 The machine had over 1.5 million preorders at Gamescom. This thing isn't going to struggle. It's annoying but put it this way, Drive Club isn't a system seller. It's a new IP competing against both Forza 5 and GT6 - if not for sales, definitely for mindshare (you already said Forza 5 looks better, now there's a chance for it to convince you otherwise). Now it's pushed back, what do Sony have in terms of first-party (excluding Flower and the like)? Killzone and Knack at launch. That's not terrible. In two to three months Infamous Second Son will come out. A couple months after that a much-better-for-it Drive Club will come out. In terms of a launch window, that kind of pacing is ideal. Sure, Drive Club definitely helped with an impact launch but there's so much momentum behind the launch, it doesn't really need it anymore. I'm annoyed as fuck but speaking from a strategic standpoint it's nowhere near a disaster - and any company worth its salt, which I'd say Sony have proved to be over the past year, will turn this setback into an advantage. Also, 'appeals to me, I was speaking objectively'...herp-aderp. Nu-huh. That is a contradiction in terms. The launch line up doesn't suit you. That's understandable. Don't get the machine. I also think dwarf was making a comparison that was completely fair (same genre, same budget, made by the same company, both released as launch titles for the same platform holder) - whereas your comparisons where speculative at best; different genres or targeted demographics, different budgets - you literally compared one new IP against an old one and acknowledged that as an advantage but you didn't when you mentioned Knack.It's a bit skew-whiff.
dazzybee Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Firstly, I never said forza looks better, and most definitely not to me, drive clubs social features interest me infinitely more than anything forza has ever offered as a series. As I said, I was speaking objectively in terms of how i feel both will fare at launch. And I don't think my inconsistent old v new ip argument works. Thereics a huge difference between the huge blockbuster more mainstream ryse, than the more indie, quirky,niche knack. Just because they're both new doesn't mean they sit closer together. And again, knacks style is more suited to my tastes, just the game in particular doesn't look great and hands on have been pretty lukewarm. I guess what is as getting at, was that both lineups aren't for me subjectively, but I know in the long run the ps4 will be for me. But objectively, I think the xbone has a stronger lineup at launch. And as for preorders, we'll see,but it won't surprise me if after Christmas they both struggle.
dwarf Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 But objectively, I think On this point we cannot argue further, we can only suggest surgery.
Daft Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 DRIVECLUB update SCE Worldwide Studios and the team at Evolution Studios have made the difficult decision to delay the release of DRIVECLUB and DRIVECLUB PlayStation Plus Edition until early 2014. DRIVECLUB will be a truly innovative, socially connected racing game, but the team requires more time in order to deliver on their vision — and I’m fully confident the game will surpass your expectations. This decision also affects PlayStation Plus members‘ Instant Game Collection for launch. To be clear, DRIVECLUB PlayStation Plus Edition will still be part of the Instant Game Collection when it is released. For the PS4 launch, in addition to Resogun, I’m pleased to announce that Contrast, the highly anticipated game from Compulsion Games will also be available to PlayStation Plus members for free as part of Instant Game Collection. If you’re not aware of Contrast, it will whisk you away to a surreal vaudevillian, film-noir inspired reality full of performance, intrigue, shadow-play and drama. Please check out the trailer below. I’m sure you’ll agree that it is unlike anything you will have played before. More... I'll probably pick up ACIV now.
Agent Gibbs Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 Well i feel more happy i'm waiting until Feb to buy a PS4 all the time with these delays......i just hope it doesn't hurt the launch in general with all these games being delayed, i want the PS4 to do well, because so far i'm getting a WiiU vibe with all these delays and launch window like releases...... rather cynical that though, i doubt it will be THAT bad, sony got the marketing down
dazzybee Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) On this point we cannot argue further, we can only suggest surgery. You see, you are TRYING to be clever; by isolating objectivity and what i think; but you simply don't know what the word means. Edited October 18, 2013 by dazzybee
bryanee Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 Its a disappointing delay but I cant be too annoyed. I was going to buy Contrast so yay. I also have to keep me busy for the rest of the year on PS4. BF4 COD Lego Marvel KZ ACIV NFS Resogun Its not like I'll be short of games to play and the fact that this now comes in early 2014 along with Infamous in Feb could ease any game drought there might be.
Daft Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 I think Drive Club will be pushed back to Feb and Infamous pushed back to April.
Hero-of-Time Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 I think Drive Club will be pushed back to Feb and Infamous pushed back to April. If this happens i'm blaming you!!!
Cube Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 I'm actually thinking of cancelling my order. I really don't need one until inFamous, and one of my main launch day games I can get much cheaper on PC. Also, I'd like to see if the game prices will go down after launch.
bryanee Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 I think Drive Club will be pushed back to Feb and Infamous pushed back to April.
Daft Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 Is waiting an extra 8 weeks really going to kill anyone? I want the best game possible, not something rushed to meet a deadline.
Cube Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 April for getting the PS4 and inFamous actually sounds quite nice.
S.C.G Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 inFamous Second Son is basically the game I'm buying the console for, Sucker Punch can take their sweet time with it.
dwarf Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Funny how nostalgic sounds can give you tingles.
Daft Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 It's kind of weird to me that Playstation now has a 'nostalgic' history. Sony have always been the challengers to the de facto Nintendo, the young turk. It's nice to realise that change. Just how god awful the PS3 started its life and how they pulled themselves back has really cemented their place at the heart of the industry for me. And in just over five weeks, we'll have the PS4 with us. I'm excited.
Debug Mode Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Finally played a PS4 earlier, Ubisoft had an event in my university student union. The controller feels amazing, and this is coming from a guy who does not like the Dualshock in it's current form. The sticks were too close together in my opinion, and it never suited my hands. DS4 feels a lot more suitable for me, sure there's others I prefer, but an improvement is an improvement. Thanks to the promo guy being a bit of a pleb and tripping the wire knocking out the power to all the demo units (I shit you not), I managed to get a slight browse around the home menu before he asked me for the controller so he can set up the demo. The demo itself was Assassins Creed 4. And my god Ubisoft, I've never been about the graphics, but it looked like an upscaled piece of shit. It was also kind of buggy, and when I questioned the guy why I'm constantly being prompted to press O to counter when no one was around, he just told me to ignore it and it'd fix itself. Unless that PS4 exclusive content is a real big deal, I can't see why any one would bother waiting for this and slamming down an extra tenner on average for it compared with its previous gen version. As for the system itself? Hard to judge considering the software, but that gamepad impressed me. The back blue light was what caught my attention walking past the room!
bryanee Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) There are some gifs and info showing the difference between current and next gen versons of ACIV. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=700498 For the a cross gen I'd say there a decent amount of upgrades. Edited October 21, 2013 by bryanee
Dcubed Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 That's a great ad, really tugs at the heart strings (and I never even grew up with a PS1 or PS2 as a kid!) My only real complaint is the decision to use Resident Evil 4 as the PS2's defining game. I would never associate RE4 with the PS2, it's a GCN game through and through! (If they wanted to pick a defining PS2 horror game to do that flashlight gag with, I would've picked Silent Hill 2...) Mind you though, it does also sort of highlight how the Playstation ecosystem also sort of lost its identity with the PS3... (But that's not really the advert's fault, just more a matter of Sony moving away from the kinds of games they pushed in the past...) But yeah, it's a great ad!
Happenstance Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Thats either a really nicely put together, nostalgic look at the Playstation history or the story of a guy that doesnt seem to be going anywhere with his life
Ashley Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 He's a recent graduate living in London, this jobless and living with his parents. #topical Good advert though, a nice play on nostalgia.
bryanee Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Megaton, PS4 pad works with PS3 if plugged in with some games.
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