General Switch Discussion

[Blade]

@Ganepark32

I completely disagree when you say Nintendo needs a "kick up the backside" on the game front. It has been a fantastic year for them with a constant release of critically acclaimed games! 

Sounds to me that Nintendo of 2017 is really not for you. 

[Glen-i]

On the other hand, I agree with a lot that @Ganepark32 said, especially when it comes to Mario and Zelda. Especially Zelda. Mario, is the least challenging 3D Mario to date. And the Banjo games outdo it in the less platforming intensive 3D platformer because the main collectibles actually feel like an accomplishment because they're not bloody everywhere. 2017 has been a pretty lame Ninty year for me. Thankfully, Indies and Capcom (!?) have salvaged it for me.

[Hero-of-Time]

The 3DS had a much better line up than the Switch this year, at least in terms of exclusive games. Sadly most people moved on to the Switch and forgot all about the little handheld. 

[Blade]

It has been a fantastic year on a Nintendo front with me.

Both Mario and Zelda I have fully enjoyed, even amazed by them. There are criticisms for both but I have really enjoyed them nonetheless.

I think sometimes Nintendo can't do right from doing wrong. Oh well, they can't please everyone. I hated them in the Wii U years.

I love the fact that they take chances with their franchises albeit it may not be the way forward you were expecting or wanting.

[Ronnie]

3 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

The 3DS had a much better line up than the Switch this year, at least in terms of exclusive games.

???

What line up is much better than Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Arms, MK8D, Xenobalde, Fire Emblem and Rabbids?

Edited November 8, 2017 by Ronnie

[Hero-of-Time]

They will never please everyone.  That's just the way it is. 

The Switch line up of 1st party games hasn't been great for me. I disliked Zelda, ARMS was a bit of a bust, Splatoon was too similar to the original and carried with it the same issues and Mario Kart was basically the Wii U version. There's only Mario Odyssey that won me over.

However, they do get a pass from me as it's only the first year. While not everything has been for me, there's no denying they've done a fantastic job of making sure there was a big game out very month.

[Hero-of-Time]

4 minutes ago, Ronnie said:

???

What line up is much better than Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Arms, MK8D, Xenobalde, Fire Emblem and Rabbids?

Metroid, Pikmin, Ever Oasis, Monster Hunter Stories, Miitopia, Dragon Quest VIII, Etrian Odyssey V, Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon, Layton, Mario and Luigi, Dragon Ball Fusions, Fire Emblem Echoes....

[Ronnie]

2 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Metroid, Pikmin, Ever Oasis, Monster Hunter Stories, Miitopia, Dragon Quest VIII, Etrian Odyssey V, Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon, Layton, Mario and Luigi, Dragon Ball Fusions, Fire Emblem Echoes....

Quantity sure, quality? I look at that list and Metroid and Ever Oasis stand out.

The rest are mostly around the 60-70% mark on Metacritic and obviously not a guarantee of quality, it's a pretty good indicator.

But hey, different strokes for different folks.

[Hero-of-Time]

That's why I don't care about what most reviewers say and go on my own gut feeling. Zelda may have been rated very highly but I had far more fun playing games like Miitopia and Hey! Pikmin.

[Ashley]

In fairness comparing the start of a console whereby you're putting forward your big IPs to get people in (especially after a lot of people left in the last generation) to the end of another is unfair in some regards.  One could argue that given how long the 3DS has been out the first party support it is still getting, and the quality of those titles, is worthy of commendation.

But they're doing really well on both consoles so all's good!

[Blade]

7 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Metroid, Pikmin, Ever Oasis, Monster Hunter Stories, Miitopia, Dragon Quest VIII, Etrian Odyssey V, Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon, Layton, Mario and Luigi, Dragon Ball Fusions, Fire Emblem Echoes....

Its all about tastes isn't. The 3DS is having objectively a great year but the games haven't necessarily been for me whereas the Switch's games have.

There is no denying that Nintendo are on fire with their games at the moment. Its so much better than the Wii U years. I consider myself so lucky that I have access to so many quality titles across PS4, Switch and 3DS. I'm spoiled for choice and unfortunately don't have enough time to experience them all.

 

[nekunando]

For me, 2017 has been outstanding for Switch. Breath of the Wild may not be my favourite game in the Legend of Zelda series and Super Mario Odyssey may or may not manage to topple Super Mario Galaxy 2 as the pinnacle of 3D Mario games but they, along with the Deluxe version of Mario Kart 8, have been far and away my greatest games of the year

To have Splatoon 2 and ARMS supplementing with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 on the horizon, I can't complain about not being catered for at all!

I totally understand if it isn't for everyone (I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the PS4 in 2017, unlike many) but the Switch has absolutely exceeded my expectations. I love it

 

[Sheikah]

Quantity sure, quality? I look at that list and Metroid and Ever Oasis stand out.
The rest are mostly around the 60-70% mark on Metacritic and obviously not a guarantee of quality, it's a pretty good indicator.
But hey, different strokes for different folks.

Dragon Quest VIII is one of the best RPGs ever made. Just sayin'.

[Happenstance]

I only really enjoyed Zelda and Mario on the Switch this year so it wasnt a brilliant start for me but it felt like enough to build off.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Happenstance

[Ike]

2 hours ago, Ronnie said:

Quantity sure, quality? I look at that list and Metroid and Ever Oasis stand out.

The rest are mostly around the 60-70% mark on Metacritic and obviously not a guarantee of quality, it's a pretty good indicator.

But hey, different strokes for different folks.

Only 2 of those are under 70%?

2 hours ago, Hero-of-Time said:

That's why I don't care about what most reviewers say and go on my own gut feeling. Zelda may have been rated very highly but I had far more fun playing games like Miitopia and Hey! Pikmin.

It's weird to hear you don't like Zelda when you played through it 3 times. I guess that makes you most qualified though.

46 minutes ago, Sheikah said:

2 hours ago, Ronnie said:

Quantity sure, quality? I look at that list and Metroid and Ever Oasis stand out.
The rest are mostly around the 60-70% mark on Metacritic and obviously not a guarantee of quality, it's a pretty good indicator.
But hey, different strokes for different folks.

Dragon Quest VIII is one of the best RPGs ever made. Just sayin'.

This guy gets it.

[Hero-of-Time]

17 minutes ago, Ike said:

 

It's weird to hear you don't like Zelda when you played through it 3 times. I guess that makes you most qualified though.

Just the two times.  

I was sick of people claiming I rushed my first play through and that my opinion not being valid. I played it again on the Switch this time doing everything except the Korok seeds, that way no one could accuse me on not giving the game a chance. Hell, I probably done more in the game than those who sing its praises. 

[Grazza]

You know what, @Hero-of-Time has got a good point about the 3DS line-up.  Switch has been essential, but I've enjoyed the 3DS games more.

 

Switch had several must-plays, like Zelda and Mario.  They were both amazing experiences, but Breath of the Wild isn't going to go down as anywhere near my favourite in the series.  Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap was superb, but you know what I've enjoyed most on Switch?  Quite possibly the Metal Slug series via the ACA Neo Geo range!  Brilliant gameplay and actually fun.

 

On 3DS, however, Metroid was intense and exciting, and really hit the mark for a 2D Metroid in the way that BotW didn't hit the mark for a 3D Zelda.  Dragon Quest VIII is indeed one of the best RPGs ever made (the best, in my opinion), although I must admit I didn't want to play the 3DS port.  I reviewed a title for N-Europe I'd never have been interested in otherwise called Alchemic Dungeons.  It's massively flawed, but you know what?  It's the game I turn to every time I'm listening to the radio - it's gripping because it constantly asks you to make decisions.  And finally, I'm enjoying Etrian Odyssey V more than anything on Switch so far.

 

Switch has been great, but don't underestimate the 3DS!

[dazzybee]

I'm not a massive fan of this other people having different opinions malarky...

3DS has had an amazing year, the problem is I don't care, which is horrific to say, but my desire to play the device dropped pretty much completely, same with the PS4, probably loads of great games, I just don't care. Switch for me has been utterly incredible and loved every second of it; it's more than enough for me!

[Kav]

Switch has been good in that it’s got Zelda & Mario, both top-tier games (Zelda especially).

It’s been poor in that it’s online games are lacking thanks to Nintendo’s attitude toward online/social features.

It’s also very good because my 1.5hr journey each way to & from work has been fun thanks to the portability.

 

How they sell the machine as a home console you can take on the go is beyond me - it’s blatantly a handheld you can plug into your TV!

Edited November 9, 2017 by Kav

[Ronnie]

6 minutes ago, Kav said:

How they sell the machine as a home console you can take on the go is beyond me - it’s blatantly a handheld you can plug into your TV!

I use it 90% of the time as a home console.

And marketing wise, what sounds better to you in an advert: "a home console you can play anywhere!" or "a handheld device you can plug into your tv!" ?

Edited November 9, 2017 by Ronnie

[Kav]

9 minutes ago, Ronnie said:

I use it 90% of the time as a home console.

And marketing wise, what sounds better to you in an advert: "a home console you can play anywhere!" or "a handheld device you can plug into your tv!" ?

I get that, but irrespective of how you’d use it, it is a portable console... the hardware is the part you take with you.

That the dock houses a board that upscales makes it a hybrid, but in essence it’s a portable no matter how they paint it.

[Ronnie]

2 minutes ago, Kav said:

I get that, but irrespective of how you’d use it, it is a portable console... the hardware is the part you take with you.

That the dock houses a board that upscales makes it a hybrid, but in essence it’s a portable no matter how they paint it.

All I'm saying is regardless what the thing actually is, there's a reason why they market it as a home console you can play anywhere, rather than a handheld; it's a simple, very attractive message.

[Hero-of-Time]

Quote

Nintendo just issued the weekly Nintendo Download report per usual. However, something is tucked away inside that would seem very important.

Nintendo lists Hulu as one of today’s new releases on Switch. The official page is currently offline, but it should be up by the time the eShop updates later today. 

In the past, Nintendo has mentioned that video streaming services would eventually come to Switch. It looks like that’s happening sooner than expected

 

[Glen-i]

18 hours ago, Sheikah said:

20 hours ago, Ronnie said:

Quantity sure, quality? I look at that list and Metroid and Ever Oasis stand out.
The rest are mostly around the 60-70% mark on Metacritic and obviously not a guarantee of quality, it's a pretty good indicator.
But hey, different strokes for different folks.

Dragon Quest VIII is one of the best RPGs ever made. Just sayin'.

Oh yeah, that was this year! Man, 3DS has been amazing! It goes to show that one of the two Switch games I'm actually looking forward to playing is technically available on the New 3DS.

[Helmsly]

25 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Nintendo just issued the weekly Nintendo Download report per usual. However, something is tucked away inside that would seem very important.

Nintendo lists Hulu as one of today’s new releases on Switch. The official page is currently offline, but it should be up by the time the eShop updates later today. 

In the past, Nintendo has mentioned that video streaming services would eventually come to Switch. It looks like that’s happening sooner than expected

Although that last time I checked, Hulu is unavailable for the EU, this is still good news as it's hopefully a sign that some of the other popular streaming services will come to the Switch soon as well (like Netflix and Amazon). I wouldn't mind the WWE Network heading to the switch as well.

Edited November 9, 2017 by Helmsly