Chris the great Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 one thing that i didnt like was the 20 second infection to crazy monster thing. just didnt seem feasoble, but im no bio chemist. i did notice the film seemed more about the evil being within humanity, and how easily we can be reverted to beasts, and that love seems to be the only thing keeping us human. the father welcoming the survivors so easily and readily was, in my interpritation, mostly down to the loving nature of his existance, staying with his daughter who he loved.
Dan_Dare Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 one thing that i didnt like was the 20 second infection to crazy monster thing. just didnt seem feasoble, but im no bio chemist. i did notice the film seemed more about the evil being within humanity, and how easily we can be reverted to beasts, and that love seems to be the only thing keeping us human. the father welcoming the survivors so easily and readily was, in my interpritation, mostly down to the loving nature of his existance, staying with his daughter who he loved. you know- I'm just inclined to go with the flow with regards to fictional weaponised super virus'
Fierce_LiNk Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 one thing that i didnt like was the 20 second infection to crazy monster thing. just didnt seem feasoble, but im no bio chemist. i did notice the film seemed more about the evil being within humanity, and how easily we can be reverted to beasts, and that love seems to be the only thing keeping us human. the father welcoming the survivors so easily and readily was, in my interpritation, mostly down to the loving nature of his existance, staying with his daughter who he loved. The 20 second was something that Selena mentioned, so it was never an official "this is what happens when you get infected." But, when you see what happens to Frank, it still took a few seconds before the blood from the infected worked its way into his blood. He had the time to say goodbye to Hannah, and it almost seemed as if he was fighting the infection, but lost. You're right, the film was much more about that - the primitive nature of man. But, whether love keeps us human, I'm not sure if that was the idea. It works, but I think there's a bit more to it than that. At one stage, when Jim goes on the rampage, he almost is taken over with rage (especially when Selena almost mistakes him for one of the Infected). I think the film may even have been a look into genocide that takes place even today, especially when Christopher Eccleston's character talks about "people killing people for as long as he could remember." So, the same thing is happening, but on a bigger scale.
Dan_Dare Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 either way, Sunshine is better. (seriously though, great film)
Fierce_LiNk Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 either way, Sunshine is better. (seriously though, great film) Sunshine is great, but it is nowhere near as good as 28 Days Later. Besides, 28 Days Later really shines in the final third, whereas Sunshine loses it, in my opinion.
Chris the great Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 you know- I'm just inclined to go with the flow with regards to fictional weaponised super virus' thats because your weak.
Nolan Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) Sunshine is great, but it is nowhere near as good as 28 Days Later. Besides, 28 Days Later really shines in the final third, whereas Sunshine loses it, in my opinion. This. Exactly this. From the time Jim hops the wall to till the credits roll, I could watch over and over again. The music is just fantastic too in this section. I've not seen Sunshine in a long enough time to quite remember how each act plays out to the others, but I've heard other people echo your thoughts on the ending losing steam. Edit: Ha, I missed the last few posts on the other page, basically though.....more agreeing with Flink from me. Especially on the gets better with more viewings. Edited March 13, 2009 by Nolan
Fierce_LiNk Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 This. Exactly this. From the time Jim hops the wall to till the credits roll, I could watch over and over again. The music is just fantastic too in this section. I've not seen Sunshine in a long enough time to quite remember how each act plays out to the others, but I've heard other people echo your thoughts on the ending losing steam. It's up there in my favourite film moments. Sadly, I find that not a lot of people are switched on to that part of the film, which is a huge shame, as it's so well shot. I've youtubed that section about a dozen times, because it's just that good. I loved Sunshine, and it's still a great film, but I do think that the final third is the weakest part of the film. The whole film is a cross between Alien and Event Horizon. Only, the ending was less Alien and more Event Horizon. Not a terrible thing, but it could have been worked better, I think.
Nolan Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 That's actually one of the off putting things about the sequel is they seem to use that piece of music much more often, and it loses it's impact.
Dan_Dare Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 na I agree how Sunshine has a weird ending. Not bad IMO but I can see why people don't like it. I also fucking love the end to 28 Days when he goes berserk taking out the soldiers. Quality stuff. What tune is it during that scene? I seem to remember thinking it was Mogwai then being wrong
Fierce_LiNk Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 That's actually one of the off putting things about the sequel is they seem to use that piece of music much more often, and it loses it's impact. You know, after seeing the sequel for the first time, I said the exact same thing. The soundtrack in 28 Weeks was just...not great compared to the first. There were some good moments, but they kept reusing that quality piece from the first film, especially when it didn't need to be used. Although, the opening scene with it was awesome. Even worse, the trailer was accompanied with "Shrinking Universe" by Muse, which led me to believe that the soundtrack to this was going to be unbelievable! Never again. na I agree how Sunshine has a weird ending. Not bad IMO but I can see why people don't like it. I also fucking love the end to 28 Days when he goes berserk taking out the soldiers. Quality stuff. What tune is it during that scene? I seem to remember thinking it was Mogwai then being wrong The choon is by John Murphy. It's titled "In the House - In a heartbeat."
Nolan Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Looking around on Wiki, I have discovered that there is a graphic novel entitled "28 Days Later: The Aftermath. It bridges the time inbetween the first and second movie it seems. I have decided, that I need to get this. Although I'm a little wary as nothing mentions any sort of co-ordination between Garland/Boyle and the Novelist.
Daft Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Sunshine has an abysmal screenplay. Amazing cast, good directing. Pretty good soundtrack. I loved how the first half and the second half completely jar. I enjoy it but it has some annoying faults.
EEVILMURRAY Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 cheapskate. Damn right! I can't shit money like everyone else here buying their masses of comics, box sets and masses of games at once. I use Amazon's Used & New section! AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO ADMEET EEET.
ReZourceman Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 She's The Man What can I say? It was better than I expected. Was hella shocked to see the absolute love of my life Amanda Crew. God...I want her babies, its not fair. Anyway she was stunning in it, Amanda Bynes tends to be hot, it was rather amusing, overally not bad. David Cross had the most lolworthy scenes...pissing myself. 8/10
Beast Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 She's The Man What can I say? It was better than I expected. Was hella shocked to see the absolute love of my life Amanda Crew. God...I want her babies, its not fair. Anyway she was stunning in it, Amanda Bynes tends to be hot, it was rather amusing, overally not bad. David Cross had the most lolworthy scenes...pissing myself. 8/10 Same here, I didn't think it'd be good but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and I thought it was quite funny. 8/10
Daft Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 She's The Man What can I say? It was better than I expected. Was hella shocked to see the absolute love of my life Amanda Crew. God...I want her babies, its not fair. Anyway she was stunning in it, Amanda Bynes tends to be hot, it was rather amusing, overally not bad. David Cross had the most lolworthy scenes...pissing myself. 8/10 Me and my friend were talking about this the other day and decided that we both ashamedly enjoyed it. I think the poster of Frank Lampard in their room helped.
bluey Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 i went to see twelfth night at the donmar recently.. afterwards in the bathrooms i overheard two girls saying "it was good... but it was JUST like an old version of that film 'she's the man'.." ..... FLAIL, GIRLS!
ReZourceman Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Me and my friend were talking about this the other day and decided that we both ashamedly enjoyed it. I think the poster of Frank Lampard in their room helped. i went to see twelfth night at the donmar recently.. afterwards in the bathrooms i overheard two girls saying "it was good... but it was JUST like an old version of that film 'she's the man'.." ..... FLAIL, GIRLS! Haha! I liked all the England references, it was great. Also, the footie match at the end....it kinda....looks like England. Does anyone know if it was partly filmed here? Could just be an Englandy looking area of the US I guess.
Roostophe Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 With that chatting, I now fancy giving that "She's The Man" a look if ever it's on again. I'm reminded of a role reversal version of "Ladybugs", where Rodney Dangerfield got some lad to disguise himself as a lass to play in a girl's footie team. One thing I'd like to know: There's a bit where she gets hit in the groin with the ball and doesn't react...but afaik girls do also have sensitive stuff down there, so it would still hurt a bit if they were whacked there with a football. Probably not as much, but still...
Ellmeister Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Apparently not like us though, its just like a normal pain. Thats what the ex tells me.
Paj! Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 I can assure you that Twelfth Night, either the movie from 1996 (available on DVD) or any stage production is better than She's The Man. I hate this bastardising of Shakespeare plays...at least do what Baz Luhrman did with Romeo + Juliet...make it modern, yet technically intact.
Roostophe Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 I can assure you that Twelfth Night, either the movie from 1996 (available on DVD) or any stage production is better than She's The Man. Maybe so, but there's no football action in Twelfth Night, is there. No, thank you. My good man. :wink:
Paj! Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Maybe so, but there's no football action in Twelfth Night, is there. No, thank you. My good man. :wink: Yeah but it's entertaining to watch. :wink:
martinist Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 RAMBO III The guy took down a helicopter gunship with an explosive arrow! 8/10
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