Ashley Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 On 12/06/2020 at 9:12 PM, Sheikah said: Now that we've had time to process everything, has anyone decided to buy at launch? And if so, what price point is your limit? I won't be as hopefully my travels will start again not long after launch so it's kind of pointless...as is this post but I just wanted to use the expression price point 1
Cookyman Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) It's a photoshopped pic but what do you think? Edited June 15, 2020 by Cookyman
Ashley Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 It's a very nice white rectangle in a grey circle but I don't see what it has to do with the PS5. 1 4
Julius Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 On 12/06/2020 at 9:12 PM, Sheikah said: Now that we've had time to process everything, has anyone decided to buy at launch? Yep, I'll be buying at launch. I was going to regardless because I have a 2015 model base PS4 which is starting to chug (thankfully the 1TB is still serving me well), and at the very least I've been looking forward to revisiting Spider-Man and Shadow of the Colossus, and running the best that they can. Whether that Spider playthrough gets bumped up if Miles makes it to launch I guess we'll see but apart from that I still have plenty of PS4 games I want to play, most (if not all) of which I imagine will be backwards compatible. Also, given a bit more thought to the event, and of the 25 games shown at the event last week, the games that I am absolutely in for are Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Project Athia (we'll see if this ever sees the light of day), Kena: Bridge of Spirits (probably my highlight of the show), Little Devil Inside, Astro's Playroom (small but a pre-loaded, free Astro Bot game from ASOBI after all of the praise for VR Mission and as something to play while everything installs? Yes please I'm in), Pragmata (ditto what I said for Project Athia, but major Kojima vibes and a new IP from Capcom is very exciting), and Horizon: Forbidden West. Slight question marks, but very much leaning towards a buy, over Demon's Souls (only just completed my first horror game, so we'll see if I'm ready for that by then - would be a great point to jump in with From Software and start catching myself up, though; basically the same but just replace From with Capcom for RE: Village, going to try some of those out this summer), Ratchet & Clank (have limited experience with this series, might check out the remastered titles on PS3 first, but it looks great) and Gran Turismo 7 (loved 3 A-Spec back in the day on PS2, but haven't touched the series and have enjoyed Forza since, so we'll see what launches around it). Returnal, Stray, Sackboy: A Big Adventure, and Ghostwire: Tokyo all have my attention, even if the latter lost a bit of my interest by being first-person. The other games shown I currently don't plan on picking up. Overall, I'm going to stick with the B that I gave the event last week. It was a solid showing, but nothing (besides Spidey, but that being a Lost Legacy-type situation isn't nearly as exciting as seeing a number 2) was really unexpected or blew me away. Games like Goodbye Volcano High and Oddworld Soulstorm I'm sure will have their fans, but nothing we saw to me suggested that they belonged at a next-gen event. But then there were clearly games that did. Considering that PlayStation knew about Xbox having a first party showcase in July, I think they showed some restraint with this showing, and have saved some things for later. I think there's still the potential for a mic drop moment which will flip the tables almost entirely in their favour akin to "$299". And I'm just saying, Play Has No Limits makes much more sense on a console which offers (almost) full backwards compatibility for their legacy titles... Quote And if so, what price point is your limit? Oh man poor @bob. Anyways, yeah, about that price point I think the PS5 is £599 maximum, so that's what I've budgeted for so far. Realistically I think we could see the PS5 be £499 and the Digital Edition at the absolute lowest be £399, but expecting something more like £429. Also interested in the headphones to try out some of their 3D Audio tech. Guess we'll see what their launch line-up looks like, but think I'll only pick up three games at most at launch (excluding Astro's Playroom). 1
bob Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Julius said: Oh man poor @bob. Anyways, yeah, about that price point I think the PS5 is £599 maximum, so that's what I've budgeted for so far. Realistically I think we could see the PS5 be £499 and the Digital Edition at the absolute lowest be £399, but expecting something more like £429. Also interested in the headphones to try out some of their 3D Audio tech. Guess we'll see what their launch line-up looks like, but think I'll only pick up three games at most at launch (excluding Astro's Playroom). It's your own keyboards and time that you are wasting, not mine.
Sheikah Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Julius said: Yep, I'll be buying at launch. I was going to regardless because I have a 2015 model base PS4 which is starting to chug (thankfully the 1TB is still serving me well), and at the very least I've been looking forward to revisiting Spider-Man and Shadow of the Colossus, and running the best that they can. Whether that Spider playthrough gets bumped up if Miles makes it to launch I guess we'll see but apart from that I still have plenty of PS4 games I want to play, most (if not all) of which I imagine will be backwards compatible. Also, given a bit more thought to the event, and of the 25 games shown at the event last week, the games that I am absolutely in for are Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Project Athia (we'll see if this ever sees the light of day), Kena: Bridge of Spirits (probably my highlight of the show), Little Devil Inside, Astro's Playroom (small but a pre-loaded, free Astro Bot game from ASOBI after all of the praise for VR Mission and as something to play while everything installs? Yes please I'm in), Pragmata (ditto what I said for Project Athia, but major Kojima vibes and a new IP from Capcom is very exciting), and Horizon: Forbidden West. Slight question marks, but very much leaning towards a buy, over Demon's Souls (only just completed my first horror game, so we'll see if I'm ready for that by then - would be a great point to jump in with From Software and start catching myself up, though; basically the same but just replace From with Capcom for RE: Village, going to try some of those out this summer), Ratchet & Clank (have limited experience with this series, might check out the remastered titles on PS3 first, but it looks great) and Gran Turismo 7 (loved 3 A-Spec back in the day on PS2, but haven't touched the series and have enjoyed Forza since, so we'll see what launches around it). Returnal, Stray, Sackboy: A Big Adventure, and Ghostwire: Tokyo all have my attention, even if the latter lost a bit of my interest by being first-person. The other games shown I currently don't plan on picking up. Overall, I'm going to stick with the B that I gave the event last week. It was a solid showing, but nothing (besides Spidey, but that being a Lost Legacy-type situation isn't nearly as exciting as seeing a number 2) was really unexpected or blew me away. Games like Goodbye Volcano High and Oddworld Soulstorm I'm sure will have their fans, but nothing we saw to me suggested that they belonged at a next-gen event. But then there were clearly games that did. Considering that PlayStation knew about Xbox having a first party showcase in July, I think they showed some restraint with this showing, and have saved some things for later. I think there's still the potential for a mic drop moment which will flip the tables almost entirely in their favour akin to "$299". And I'm just saying, Play Has No Limits makes much more sense on a console which offers (almost) full backwards compatibility for their legacy titles... Oh man poor @bob. Anyways, yeah, about that price point I think the PS5 is £599 maximum, so that's what I've budgeted for so far. Realistically I think we could see the PS5 be £499 and the Digital Edition at the absolute lowest be £399, but expecting something more like £429. Also interested in the headphones to try out some of their 3D Audio tech. Guess we'll see what their launch line-up looks like, but think I'll only pick up three games at most at launch (excluding Astro's Playroom). Yeah I am going to guess £425 for the digital edition PS5 and £499 for the regular.
Dcubed Posted June 15, 2020 Author Posted June 15, 2020 I really don't see the point in buying a PS5 right away when it'll have pretty much nothing exclusive to play on it for the first couple of years (and its backwards compatibility is going to be woefully limited). You're basically buying a very expensive brick that won't be doing much until late 2022.
Happenstance Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dcubed said: I really don't see the point in buying a PS5 right away when it'll have pretty much nothing exclusive to play on it for the first couple of years (and its backwards compatibility is going to be woefully limited). You're basically buying a very expensive brick that won't be doing much until late 2022. I’d love to know if you actually believe half the stuff you post on here about PlayStation consoles. 2 1
Sheikah Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dcubed said: I really don't see the point in buying a PS5 right away when it'll have pretty much nothing exclusive to play on it for the first couple of years (and its backwards compatibility is going to be woefully limited). You're basically buying a very expensive brick that won't be doing much until late 2022. I actually totally disagree with you, and in fact think that buying in 2022 is the least sensible time to buy the system. I've made this comment before but my reasoning: - If you look at the PS4 it took an entire 2 years for Sony to actually cut the price (in September 2015), and even then it was only by 50 quid. So by adopting 2 years later, if we look at what they did before, you are potentially saving only a small amount of money and foregoing 2 years when you could have played the superior versions of the games. - All popular (top 100) existing current gen games will run and be boosted, including new ones people are holding out on (like Cyberpunk, Last of Us, Ghosts of Tsushima), so you can carry on playing games with boosted performance. - Multiformat games will still release on the new consoles (including the games which release annually) so there'll still be games to play. And you'll get to play them at higher resolutions with much improved load times. Based on the footage Sony showed we can see how quick that SSD works, so there's potentially going to be some very nice QoL improvements here. - There will be some exclusives released in the first couple of years. If the console is expensive then I can understand a lot of people won't want to pick it up right away, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a wise move to wait just a couple of years. In my opinion the real winners are those who either buy right away to get the benefits as soon as possible, or buy towards the end of the generation when consoles are considerably discounted and there are lots of cheap great games to play. People who wait a relatively short time before buying probably aren't saving very much in the long run. Edited June 15, 2020 by Sheikah
Julius Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Dcubed said: I really don't see the point in buying a PS5 right away when it'll have pretty much nothing exclusive to play on it for the first couple of years (and its backwards compatibility is going to be woefully limited). You're basically buying a very expensive brick that won't be doing much until late 2022. I mean, I respectfully disagree based on the types of games I like to play being much aligned with the games we saw last week (I mean, see the games I mentioned above - clearly this was a good showing for my preferences), but not every game can be for everyone. If the showing wasn't filled with games coming to PS5 that you're not interested in then I get why you might feel that way. I'm not going to respond really to the comment about exclusive titles right now because technically you're right, we haven't got scheduled release dates for a lot of these first party games, so I can't exactly say you're wrong in that regard. But the intent to have them be console exclusive is clearly there, and then there are already massive AAA games from third parties like Resident Evil Village which we know are going to be coming to next-gen consoles only. As for backwards compatibility, again, I read it now more as Cerny going "we've tested the most popular 100 games and they work or are being adapted, but we're still testing a lot of other games at this point". It's honestly a little tiring to see the backwards compatibility argument come up every single time the PS5 is discussed here, because it feels like it falls on deaf ears almost entirely due to the PlayStation 4's success. Absolute worst case scenario I still have a PS4 to pop the games into, that's not a deal-breaker for me. As for a very expensive brick not doing much until 2022? At the very least it's a UHD player, and Sony's top of the line UHD players usually have a RRP around £350. Another £250 (at most) to make that a next-gen console is a good deal in my books.
Cookyman Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Ashley said: It's a very nice white rectangle in a grey circle but I don't see what it has to do with the PS5. Should be working now.
drahkon Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cookyman said: Should be working now. Nope.
Cookyman Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, drahkon said: Nope. Fuck! Now? Edited June 15, 2020 by Cookyman
Will Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 I still think it’s generally pretty horrible but the black is definitely better than the white. I really hope they offer that at launch. 1
Ronnie Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 The asymmetrical design with the disk tray lump sticking out of one side is really bad, regardless of colour. The fact that you need the stand to lay it flat
Cookyman Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, will' said: I still think it’s generally pretty horrible but the black is definitely better than the white. I really hope they offer that at launch. It's just coming out in white for launch.
Sheikah Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Ronnie said: The asymmetrical design with the disk tray lump sticking out of one side is really bad, regardless of colour. The fact that you need the stand to lay it flat Can't you just lay it flat on the side without the bump? Sony often show of their consoles with the stand but it has never been actually needed before. Edit: ok looking at it from another angle it's not flat, but also the stand doesn't look like a big deal? Looks almost certain to be included with the console (since it's small) so not sure what the problem is? Edited June 15, 2020 by Sheikah
Map Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 A discussion with a UX designer at PlayStation makes it sound like the console will be customisable, makes you wonder if the plates on the side will be interchangeable so you can have what colour or special edition you want. 2
Ashley Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Ronnie said: The asymmetrical design with the disk tray lump sticking out of one side is really bad, regardless of colour. The fact that you need the stand to lay it flat At least it can lay down flat, unlike the Switch that insists on being too big to fit in any TV unit 😋 Although the bump is a bit odd, yeah.
Goafer Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ashley said: At least it can lay down flat, unlike the Switch that insists on being too big to fit in any TV unit 😋 Although the bump is a bit odd, yeah. You done kicked the hornets nest now...
Ashley Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Map said: A discussion with a UX designer at PlayStation makes it sound like the console will be customisable, makes you wonder if the plates on the side will be interchangeable so you can have what colour or special edition you want. I doubt it but maybe they'd also be optional... Or at least some company will make one without a popped collar.
Sheikah Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 I doubt it but maybe they'd also be optional... Or at least some company will make one without a popped collar. Legend says that if you were to remove the popped collar, Chad Warden would howl out in pain while crashing his mum's Caddy.
Ashley Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 Guys we're not talking about Bugsnax enough. It was the real star of the show.
Cookyman Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I have a feeling this might be the next Rocket League and from some of the development team that did Wipeout. Edited June 16, 2020 by Cookyman 1
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