drahkon Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 Shuhei Yoshida claims the “new high-end PS4 is still PS4, so the life cycle is not going to be shorter.” Source - quote at minute 6:06 So it's as everybody on here says. Yoshida is also pleasantly surprised at Microsofts's Scorpio-announcement. "It's very very super interesting what they are doing." I like Yoshida and Spencer. They always find nice words for their "rival" companies.
drahkon Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 And more news indicating that Neo won't be the end of the console generation: House mentioned that this is the first time for Sony to offer an hardware upgrade in the middle of the life cycle of a console. That said, they’re not going to do regular upgrades akin to the PC or mobile markets. The company is also not pursuing a generational hardware change. He then explained that in the mobile business users are used to upgrade their hardware every one or two years, but that’s not the case in the console business, where the cycle is at least five or six years. Yet, there’s potential, and that’s why the latest and greatest technology will be introduced in the middle of the life cycle. A key factor is still the importance of the customer, so Sony intends to mantain “one console world” with the same software for both consoles. Source This should end the complaining once and for all.
Hero-of-Time Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 Looks like the September rumours were true. Sony PlayStation on Tuesday afternoon sent invites for an event on September 7 called “PlayStation Meeting,” where the company will “share details about the PlayStation business.” Earlier today, reports from Vice Gaming and Gameblog claimed PlayStation would hold an event that day to unveil its PlayStation 4 Neo, also known as the PlayStation 4.5. If you’re unfamiliar, the Neo is expected to play all the current PlayStation 4 games out there, but offer more horsepower for better graphics and frame rates. It’s expected to also support 4K games, movies, and TV shows. With that extra horsepower, the Neo will likely be the ideal console to power the company’s upcoming virtual reality headset, PlayStation VR, which arrives in October. We look forward to learning more about the PlayStation 4 successor on September 7. The event starts at 3 p.m. ET.
Shorty Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) When I've got some spare cash, I might make a Neo and a 4K TV my next big buy No wait I want a Vive. No wait, I need to redecorate. No wait, I need a new car. D: Edited August 10, 2016 by Shorty
Ashley Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 When I've got some spare cash, I might make a Neo and a 4K TV my next big buy No wait I want a Vive. No wait, I need to redecorate. No wait, I need a new car. D: You have a means of transport. You have walls and furniture (I assume)... What you don't have is a Vive, Neo and 4K TV.
Shorty Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 My car probably won't last much longer and my bedroom walls are salmon coloured.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 and my bedroom walls are salmon coloured. Like this?
killthenet Posted August 12, 2016 Posted August 12, 2016 Really interested to see what the pricing is going to be like and when it's coming out. If it's around £400 and out in November then I think I'll get one, otherwise I'll just pick up a standard PS4 for (hopefully) a better deal.
Happenstance Posted August 17, 2016 Author Posted August 17, 2016 ....Sony should add a disc changer to the Neo so I don't have to get up and switch blu rays
Ashley Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 ....Sony should add a disc changer to the Neo so I don't have to get up and switch blu rays They already have one. It's called digital media.
Shorty Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Sony's online prices on new releases though... NMS is £50. For an indie game that would've probably been 1200 MS points on Xbox 360 10 years ago. I can never go disk-less on console until that stops being the norm.
Ashley Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Sony's online prices on new releases though... NMS is £50. For an indie game that would've probably been 1200 MS points on Xbox 360 10 years ago. I can never go disk-less on console until that stops being the norm. In fairness £50 is NMS's RRP.
Ashley Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 That's a Slim, not the Neo. And already discussed in the PS4 thread (I say this with a sarcastic emoji because I posted it in here first too)
Nolan Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 In fairness £50 is NMS's RRP. Also in fairness Sony has far more, and better sales than Microsoft has had. Neither come close to steam of course.
nekunando Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 In fairness £50 is NMS's RRP. The RRP of the latest games is extremely off-putting for me and I hope Nintendo keeps the prices down on NX, much like how Wii U titles generally have a more palatable cost. I suspect the prices will match that of PS4 and XBOX One titles, though!
Shorty Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I don't see how that makes it "fair" :p it's ridiculous. It should be cheaper than the disk rrp since you don't get physical media, can't resell it, don't get any physical extras with it, have to download it slowly, takes up more precious disk space. And the rrp should come down anyway. Steam charging lower prices for games brought down the cost of PC games overall and indefinitely. Sales are irrelevant because they never apply to anything new.
Ashley Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I don't see how that makes it "fair" :p it's ridiculous. It should be cheaper than the disk rrp since you don't get physical media, can't resell it, don't get any physical extras with it, have to download it slowly, takes up more precious disk space. And the rrp should come down anyway. Steam charging lower prices for games brought down the cost of PC games overall and indefinitely. Sales are irrelevant because they never apply to anything new. I'd argue digital space is cheaper than physical but then I'm in London I do wonder how physical copies as a percentage have changed over the last five years (eg if a game sold a million 5 years ago how many were physical then and now).
Shorty Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 It's cheaper but finite, the most you can put in a PS4 right now is 2TB, there are no bigger 2.5" HDDs that fit. I prefer not changing disks, I don't like the clutter or hassle and I would have a fully digital game catalogue if I could, but at the moment I don't think the price point supports it. I remember when there was a big promotion and competition for Uncharted 4, pre-order to be entered to win prizes. But that was only for digital pre-orders, which had a price point of £60 (currently in a "sale" at £50). All that effort and marketing for a promotion and the price made it ridiculous. It's £26.85 now on shopto.
bob Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Physical copies can quickly decrease in price, because physical space costs money to those selling it (warehouse space). They need to shift those units. Digital copies will sit there forever, taking up no extra space (well, a small amount on a server somewhere), so they have no need to drop the price.
nekunando Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I fully disagree on Nintendo being cheap. They took part in price fixing several times.. I'm not knowledgeable on any price fixing issues but I do know that throughout the lifespan of both the Wii and Wii U I've been able to pick up many games on release day for prices between £24.99-£34.99.. and sometimes even less, such as with Splatoon All I was really trying to say is that paying something like £50 for a game isn't something I can justify, especially with a house and child to pay for. The fact that game prices haven't really changed much over the last 2 decades doesn't really alter that! I suspect NX games may cost more than Wii and Wii U, though.
Happenstance Posted August 23, 2016 Author Posted August 23, 2016 I'm not knowledgeable on any price fixing issues but I do know that throughout the lifespan of both the Wii and Wii U I've been able to pick up many games on release day for prices between £24.99-£34.99.. and sometimes even less, such as with Splatoon All I was really trying to say is that paying something like £50 for a game isn't something I can justify, especially with a house and child to pay for. The fact that game prices haven't really changed much over the last 2 decades doesn't really alter that! I suspect NX games may cost more than Wii and Wii U, though. You are comparing RRP to prices you've managed to buy games for at launch which isnt really the same. We all get games for around say £30-35 if we shop around at launch, nobody pays £50 for games.
Sheikah Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I'm not knowledgeable on any price fixing issues but I do know that throughout the lifespan of both the Wii and Wii U I've been able to pick up many games on release day for prices between £24.99-£34.99.. and sometimes even less, such as with Splatoon All I was really trying to say is that paying something like £50 for a game isn't something I can justify, especially with a house and child to pay for. The fact that game prices haven't really changed much over the last 2 decades doesn't really alter that! I suspect NX games may cost more than Wii and Wii U, though. Nah they're definitely doing something - they make a big deal of select Wii U titles entering their 'classics' range after a couple of years, which means they drop to £20. Meanwhile, most PS4 games can be got for less than £20 after a much shorter period of time (sometimes after just a few months). You can usually pick up new PS4 games for £35-40 on release as well if you shop around or place preorders when sites have coupons running (which I did for Deus ex).
Fierce_LiNk Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 You are comparing RRP to prices you've managed to buy games for at launch which isnt really the same. We all get games for around say £30-35 if we shop around at launch, nobody pays £50 for games. Yeah, this is correct. I've bought many games at launch this generation and have paid in that ballpark of £30-£35. I don't know if it's just limited to this generation (since I was TeamWii last gen), but online shopping has been fantastic for gaming, at least for me anyway. I can buy games much closer to release without having to wait for weeks/months for price drops or preowned editions.
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