Julius Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) There's already a topic for this but feel free to merge/edit. http://n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58118&highlight=Episode+viii Not sure about the title, does that mean that Luke is the last, will Rey not become one? My bad. Should I just bring this up on that one and continue from there? As for that thought, that's what I'm thinking. Anakin was a Jedi, and their Code (along with his attitude and thirst for power) is what, in the end, resulted in him becoming Vader. Luke attempted to rebuild the Order his father almost completely destroyed, and it certainly did not go according to plan. I think we see a new sect of Force users announced at the end of this trilogy, with the Jedi Order finally put to bed. I think the whole Sith vs Jedi dichotomy needs to die so hopefully the title alludes to that. I'm all for good force users versus bad but it's kind of a bit back and white...almost literally. Well, technically speaking, it's been dead for the thirty years since Vader's and Sidious' end in RotJ. Along with what happened with Kylo Ren and Luke's crumbled new Order, I think Luke will accept that the Jedi must end in the way the Sith have. It invites challenge and loss to have one extinguished from the galaxy, and could imbalance the Force. I think we see a Legend of Korra style thing here, whereby we just see a general good vs a general bad, as opposed to pure good vs evil. It'd certainly be reflective of today's society, too. EDIT: thanks for merging the threads, the Force is strong with you! Edited January 23, 2017 by Julius Caesar Automerged Doublepost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somme Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I like the title. Though it makes me think Luke may die and Rey will become "The Last Jedi". EDIT: Though actually "The Last Jedi" could mean Luke and Rey. Edited January 23, 2017 by somme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 If there was more than one Jedi, would that not be Jedii? #2006jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I like the title. Though it makes me think Luke may die and Rey will become "The Last Jedi". EDIT: Though actually "The Last Jedi" could mean Luke and Rey. I love the title for this reason alone. The Force Awakens resulted in an almost unanimous questioning of "well, why was it asleep?". The Last Jedi, on the other hand, in title alone, makes you ask who this is in reference to. Could be Luke. Luke could die, and it could be Rey. It could be plural and referring to them both. It could imply that the Jedi will come to an absolute end, and perhaps transform in purpose and name. Perhaps more telling is that, once again, the Star Wars Twitter has referenced the saga as "the Skywalker saga". This was a point of contention for many fans after TFA, and could be taken to imply that Rey is Luke's daughter. If there was more than one Jedi, would that not be Jedii? #2006jokes But Luuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Gibbs Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Well Luke is the last Jedi, Rey is barely an apprentice at the start of VIII, by the end of it there could be more Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somme Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Well Luke is the last Jedi, Rey is barely an apprentice at the start of VIII, by the end of it there could be more Jedi Luke will be The Last Jedi at the beginning of the film, but at the end, Rey may be. Seeing Leia is going to be hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 No one speculated Revenge of the Sith was about one Sith lord. The Last Jedi probably encompasses a range of things... the story of how the last Jedi were wiped out by Kylo Ren, how Luke became quite possibly the last Jedi knight, and the story of Luke and Rey as the last. Not a fan of the title tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Gibbs Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 No one speculated Revenge of the Sith was about one Sith lord. The Last Jedi probably encompasses a range of things... the story of how the last Jedi were wiped out by Kylo Ren, how Luke became quite possibly the last Jedi knight, and the story of Luke and Rey as the last. Not a fan of the title tbh. Thats probably along the right lines, after all Jedi and Sith are both plural as well as singular so it fits eitherway. Not sure why everyone thinks Luke will get killed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Not sure why everyone thinks Luke will get killed off It's probably the red lettering. In the films, we've had three different titles with red text at some point (before being abandoned later on in the marketing campaign): Return of the Jedi, it's preceding title Revenge of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith. Just looking at RotJ and RotS, in the latter Luke is born (and Anakin "dies", becoming Vader), and in the former Luke is realised as a Jedi, and despite his father's short turn back to the light, he dies (for real this time, though I mean, Force Ghost, right?). I personally don't get it, seeing as we've already had official word on it, but I agree with most people here: I hope it signifies the end of the Jedi, even if Luke doesn't die. I have a feeling Rey will be resistant to his training methods and want to find an alternative way to do things (because I see Luke pushing her to kill Kylo, and not wanting to mirror his father by perhaps cutting off his nephew's hand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Thats probably along the right lines, after all Jedi and Sith are both plural as well as singular so it fits eitherway. Not sure why everyone thinks Luke will get killed off Star Wars kind of has precedence in killing off main characters... Obi Wan, Vader, Han, Maul, Dooku, Mace, Qi-gonn, Yoda, Everyone in Rogue One. It's pretty much guaranteed at this point. Edited January 24, 2017 by Cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Luke has been referred to as "The Last Jedi" multiple times. So the title just means that Luke is in the film, as it simply refers to Luke. There could be 184 Jedi by the end of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happenstance Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Unless of course its just a ripoff of the Last Starfighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Or the Last Airbender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 International translations confirm that Jedi are plural in the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill are due to appear tomorrow on Good Morning America in anticipation of the franchise's 40th Anniversary - and Star Wars Celebration - as well as, in all likelihood, an announcement of a new Force for Change initiative alongside the release of a teaser for the The Last Jedi trailer likely to be shown off later this week during SWC. [tweet]851411649575530496[/tweet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogge Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Great. Was wondering when we'd get to see a first trailer. I mean, didn't we get that Millenium Falcon trailer for Force Awakens in mid Fabruary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Great.Was wondering when we'd get to see a first trailer. I mean, didn't we get that Millenium Falcon trailer for Force Awakens in mid Fabruary? Which one? The very first teaser featuring the Falcon flying on Jakku was revealed around Thanksgiving 2014, and the following trailer ("Chewie, we're home") was released mid-April at Star Wars Celebration 2015. Thursday, opening day of Celebration, is featuring a 40th Anniversary Panel in which many surprises are, so we're told, waiting for us, though I take this to mean that the next unrevealed spin-off film (likely a Kenobi film) or a possible first live-action/the next animated TV series could be announced, and George Lucas and Harrison Ford could be making appearances (I mean, even Hayden Christensen and Denis Lawson are!). It is possible that we get our first TLJ trailer during this event, though, considering what comes the following day, I highly doubt it. On Friday, the TLJ panel will be from 16:00 - 17:30 (BST) and will more than likely feature BTS footage, stills and our first trailer for The Last Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEVILMURRAY Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 No one speculated Revenge of the Sith was about one Sith lord. Why would they? Phantom Menace stated their would only be one master and apprentice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dog-amoto Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 FNNNNNNGGGHHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Perfect teaser trailer in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Can we just talk for a second about the visual imagery here?! Kylo on one side, Luke on the other, with Rey in the middle. Her lightsaber literally fades from blue to red... Other things of note: the music! My gosh, the Force theme swelling up but then being extended by the onslaught of trumpets? And how about the fact that it ends with Snoke's theme playing after the title card is shown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killthenet Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I definitely prefer the poster to the trailer, great take on a classic design. Hopefully the film is as dark as expected, the more I think about The Force Awakens (especially after I finally got to watch Rogue One this week) the worse it gets. Glad Abrahms isn't directing any more, I don't think his style suits the franchise, it's kind of telling that the supposed smaller scale 'Rogue One' is on a much larger scale and feels like it takes place is a larger universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Gibbs Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Can we just talk for a second about the visual imagery here?! Kylo on one side, Luke on the other, with Rey in the middle. Her lightsaber literally fades from blue to red... Other things of note: the music! My gosh, the Force theme swelling up but then being extended by the onslaught of trumpets? And how about the fact that it ends with Snoke's theme playing after the title card is shown? Yes we can Given last line of how the Jedi need to end, i'm now fearing that Luke is Snoke, the poster makes him look like he is the big bad guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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