Fierce_LiNk Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 The crossplatform and backwards-compatibility areas are where Microsoft probably has Sony beat. They need to do more here for the gamer. I definitely could benefit from this as there's a ton of games that I want to catch up on, but they're currently unavailable on the PS4. I do like PSNow, but not every game is on there.
Hero-of-Time Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Interestingly the past quarters have been the fastest selling for any PS console. Not surprising given the crazy line up that was in Q1 this year. 70 million by the end of the year seems very achievable.
dazzybee Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Spiderman looks like it could be amazing fun! Surprising most things are out next year... What potentially great games are out this year on PS4? Need to build up my potential purchase list and see how devastating to my wallet it could be. Need to look into the VR reveals too, that could be the killer!
Hero-of-Time Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Spiderman looks like it could be amazing fun! Surprising most things are out next year... What potentially great games are out this year on PS4? Need to build up my potential purchase list and see how devastating to my wallet it could be. Need to look into the VR reveals too, that could be the killer! For your gaming tastes? Probably very few.
dazzybee Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 For your gaming tastes? Probably very few. Haha, well in some ways that's good I guess
Hero-of-Time Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I see LocoRoco 2 Remastered has been announced. Hopefully we will get a few more of these little announcements as the week goes on.
Hero-of-Time Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 E3 hasn't even really begun and Sony are already planning their yearly Christmas special. [TWEET]874430757544108034[/TWEET]
Dcubed Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I really hope some journalists question Sony about their stance on Cross Console Play. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-sony-defends-decision-to-block-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch Minecraft works cross-platform between Switch, Xbox and PC. Today, Rocket League was announced as working cross-platform between Switch, Xbox and PC. Both don't work cross-platform with PlayStation. Now, is this Sony not playing ball? What is actually going on here? Jim Ryan: It's certainly not a profound philosophical stance we have against this. We've done it in the past. We're always open to conversations with any developer or publisher who wants to talk about it. Unfortunately it's a commercial discussion between ourselves and other stakeholders, and I'm not going to get into the detail of that on this particular instance. And I can see your eyes rolling. Well, you must see that PlayStation owners are upset. They want to play with Switch owners, PC owners and Xbox One owners for these two big and important games, and they don't have an explanation why. That's what I'm getting at, really. Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully. It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children. Jim Ryan: Yeah, that's true. Everybody has to take their own decisions. We'll do that. Like I say, we have no philosophical stance against cross-play at all. Is this a done deal? Or are you leaving the door open, perhaps? Jim Ryan: I don't think anything is ever a done deal. Anybody who is dogmatic in that manner is typically a fool. That said, to my knowledge, there is no live conversation ongoing at the moment. So there you have it. If you're playing Minecraft or Rocket League or any other game on PS4, don't expect to play with Nintendo Switch or Xbox One owners. Nintendo are bad for kids confirmed.
Hero-of-Time Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-sony-defends-decision-to-block-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch Nintendo are bad for kids confirmed. Good stuff. Maybe we'll get proper voice chat now. Pathetic excuse from Sony.
Happenstance Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Its definitely a bad excuse. Got to admit though, its just not something I've ever really cared about and kind of continue not to.
Glen-i Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Fixed for you See, I'd laugh a bit if I wasn't losing my sides at that response Sony PR gave. When your stance on an online feature is more Nintendo than Nintendo themselves, you know you messed up!
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 If the industry is moving towards cross-network play, then Sony should move towards that. On the other hand, surely this will just lead to Sony and Microsoft aiming to secure more multiplayer exclusive content. If it doesn't matter which platform you buy a game on because you can play with users of all platforms, doesn't that negate Sony's own install base? They have to make an advantage somehow otherwise what's the point in buying the game on their system, why not go for a Xbox One version of the game?
Kaepora_Gaebora Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 This is the sort of nonsense that, although let's be honest it doesn't really matter that much...could just snowball and turn into needless bad PR because it's something for gamers to rally around, like 1080p/60fps being indicative of a quality game.
Happenstance Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 This is the sort of nonsense that, although let's be honest it doesn't really matter that much...could just snowball and turn into needless bad PR because it's something for gamers to rally around, like 1080p/60fps being indicative of a quality game. I don't think it'll go much further than forum complaints. Sony have had this stance for a while now.
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 See, I'd laugh a bit if I wasn't losing my sides at that response Sony PR gave. When your stance on an online feature is more Nintendo than Nintendo themselves, you know you messed up! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. This is currently not a standard feature. It is neither an industry standard nor industry expectation for games to be cross-platform. Is the current FIFA cross-play? Was the last one? Is Star Wars Battlefront 2 going to be cross-play? Was Battlefield 1? Playing across PC-Xbox makes sense due the Microsoft connection to both. But, it is not an industry standard. That is not to say that it won't be an industry standard in the future. I'll reiterate my point again: if the industry is moving towards cross-platform play, then Sony should allow it. If there are legitimate reasons why not to, then are there solutions to those reasons? For example, how exactly do you regulate that experience? If a bunch of PS4 users are disconnecting on Overwatch whilst playing against Xbox One users, then how does this get sorted out? If there is verbal abuse, who takes ownership over the problem? If these are questions that can be answered with sound responses, then excellent. As a gamer, I'm all for cross-play. The advantage for me is that there will be a wider numbers of people playing these games, which makes it easier to find games. I won't have to wait long on Overwatch, for example, because the userbase will be bigger and I'll have a bigger pool of players to game with. So, I can definitely see the benefits.
Sheikah Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) I can think of why Sony don't want cross network play. They have got Microsoft by the balls this generation and so long as the systems can't play together, people will probably only be picking up one core system on account of the cost of the hardware and subscriptions. If you're looking to buy a console and all your mates have a PS4 (and multiplayer with them is important to you), you've got to get the PS4. If the games you mostly want have cross network play, you could get an Xbox if you wanted and still play the games with your mates. Obviously very anti-consumer either way but then so is securing exclusive content and timed exclusivity, which they're also all doing. Edited June 13, 2017 by Sheikah
DriftKaiser Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Yeah, they are gonna stick with PS4-PC cross platform games but they could reverse their decision someday. Maybe PS5 and Xbox 10 or whatever names they will pick for their next generation console.
Kav Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 For them to claim to be "For the players", this is simply a dick move.
DriftKaiser Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 For them to claim to be "For the players", this is simply a dick move. That "For The Players" campaign have nothing to do with the Cross-play with other console at all.
The Bard Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 That "For The Players" campaign have nothing to do with the Cross-play with other console at all. Surely the idiom "for the players" still suggests that the platform holders want to appeal to what the players want, and if the players want cross platform play doesn't this show an attitude contrary to their own marketing slogan? It's a ridiculously bad excuse, especially since Playstation consoles have traditionally been the most geared towards cross platform play (Portal 2, Street Fighter 5 etc all having Playstation/ PC crossplay). So yeah, if you're going to be anti consumer, at least find a decent excuse for it.
Kav Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 That "For The Players" campaign have nothing to do with the Cross-play with other console at all. As @The Bard said.
dazzybee Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Choze you really are deep into the cult.... There is no excuse for it, it's not about excuses, or other fans being extreme, it's a shit thing to do and I put money on Sony changing their stance very soon. Why isn't it a good thing if fans from all machines can play each other, proper democracy. What Sony are doing is pure arrogance and walling themselves in - I hope it backfires massively. It would be amazing if all Multiplatform games did this in my opinion, then friends and such aren't forced to buy the same machines.
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