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Only the Sun, Mirror, Star, Guardian and i to go!!

 

Too bad they don't phone-hack (allegedly).

 

Kurtle, you confuse me a lot.

The Sun, despite being full of a lot of crap at times, is very effective at what it does/is a good tabloid/caters for the masses.

Mirror is on the decline and mainly old people who read it in its heyday read it now, but its nothing offensive.

The Daily Star is a comic and should be ignored.

The Guardian and i/Independent I see no reason why you want to see them gone. I think you'll find lots of these revelations about the NOTW are thanks to investigations by The Guardian.

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The idea that The Guardian might be implicated in phone hacking is quite laughable. They would have to be incredibly stupid to have had any involvement in such activities given they have been running stories on such activities for 9 years now.

 

The Daily Mail and The Sun on the other hand... I think it's just a matter of time before some wrongdoing is uncovered. The Daily Mail put more business the way of these very same private investigators than any other news outlet (and by quite some way). With The Sun, assuming such practices are indeed endemic to News International as a whole (i.e. the decisions were made above Editorial level) then it's only a matter of time before something is uncovered on them as well.

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In an ideal world it would be nice for all those made unemployed by this to be able to work at the Sun on Sundays. However what is more likely is they'll use this as an opportunity to not re-employ those they didn't like and some people will be so (rightfully) indignant about what happened that they wouldn't go back anyway.

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Good, it was a crap paper to begin with anyway. Just need the Daily Mail to shut down now.

 

The Mail is good for a laugh though.

 

Things that will give you Cancer according to the Daily Mail;

 

AGE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-449783/Women-birth-age-30-double-risk-breast-cancer.html

AIR POLLUTION http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-358875/Pollution-cars-linked-child-cancer.html

AIR TRAVEL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-200443/Frequent-fliers-raise-cancer-risk.html and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-591109/Cancer-risk-frequent-fliers.html

ALCOHOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-147083/Drink-day-increases-breast-cancer-risk.html and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-471910/Bowel-cancer-danger-just-glass-wine-day.html

ALLERGIES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-324732/Child-allergies-raise-cancer-risk.html

ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-55023/Cancer-causing-chemicals-soy-sauce.html

ARTIFICIAL LIGHT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-391267/Artificial-light-increases-breast-cancer-risk.html

ASBESTOS (as if it wasn’t bad enough already) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1170584/Asbestos-schools-kill-pupils-warns-teacher-dying-lung-cancer.html

ASPIRIN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-205490/Asprin-link-cancer-risk.html

BABIES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-157683/Birth-size-link-breast-cancer.html

BABY BOTTLES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1038697/EU-rejects-ban-baby-bottles-linked-early-puberty-breast-cancer-miscarriage-infertility.html

BABY FOOD http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-199887/Baby-food-cancer-alert.html

BACON http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1102368/Additives-used-bacon-ham-chicken-make-cancers-grow.html

BARBEQUES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-326153/Australians-warned-backyard-cancer-risk.html

BEEF http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-393666/Alarm-beef-link-breast-cancer.html

BEER http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1161843/Just-pint-beer-day-raise-risk-prostate-cancer.html

BEING A BLACK PERSON http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1064547/Black-men-times-likely-prostate-cancer.html and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-508753/Black-women-develop-breast-cancer-decades-earlier-white-women.html

BEING A WOMAN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-63976/Cancer-risk-higher-women-smokers.html

BEING A MAN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-306543/Men-twice-likely-die-cancer-women.html

BEING SOUTHERN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1027331/Why-affluent-women-South-likely-die-breast-cancer.html

BISCUITS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-126342/Cancer-foods-avoid.html

BLOWJOBS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-453843/Oral-sex-cause-throat-cancer.html

BRAS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-182370/Is-bra-bad-you.html

BREAD http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-411506/White-bread-increases-cancer-risk.html

BREAST FEEDING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-178756/Whos-risk-breast-cancer.html

BREAST IMPLANTS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-41443/Breast-implants-cancer-scare.html

BROKEN HEARTS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-450049/How-heart-broken-grief-send-early-grave.html

BUBBLE BATH http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-403703/Is-bubble-bath-safe.html

BURGERS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-467360/Cancer-scare-food-colour-added-sausages-burgers.html

CAFFINE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1127473/Coffee-raise-child-cancer-risk-New-evidence-caffeine-damage-babies-DNA.html

CALCUIM http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1052127/Fatal-cancer-risk-men-high-blood-calcium-levels-say-US-researchers.html

CANDLE-LIT DINNERS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1207726/Candles-release-scents-laced-cancer-chemicals-warn-scientists.html#ixzz0dufFps6a

CANNED FOOD http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-44676/Gender-bending-chemicals-tin-cans.html

CARBOHYDRATES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-313227/Low-carb-diets-beat-breast-cancer.html

CARS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-358875/Pollution-cars-linked-child-cancer.html

CEREAL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html

CHEESE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1002424/Italy-shuts-mozzarella-production-toxin-fears-spread.html

CHICKEN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-429303/Families-risk-toxic-imported-foods.html

CHILDLESSNESS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-474820/SUZANNE-MOORE-Im-sick-told-fault.html

CHILDREN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506501/Prostate-risk-having-family-according-new-study.html

CHILDREN’S FOODhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-201390/Health-warning-childrens-food.html

CHILLIS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-347287/Cancer-checks-spices-new-food-dyes-alert.html

CHINESE MEDICINE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-75547/Warming-cancer-risk-Chinese-medicines.html

CHIPS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-487571/Parents-told-chips-cause-cancer.html

CHLORINE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-431777/Chlorine-bathwater-linked-cancer.html

CHOCLATE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-386625/Cancer-fears-chocolate-snacks.html

CITY LIVING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-496495/City-life-blamed-higher-risk-breast-cancer.html

CLIMATE CHANGE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-452789/Warmer-climate-mean-thousands-deaths-skin-cancer.html

COCA COLA http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-337178/Carrot-day-reduces-cancer-risk.html

COD LIVER OIL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-379918/Cancer-fears-cod-liver-oil-capsules.html

COFFEE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3027/How-healthy-cup-coffee.html

CONSTAPATION http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-193698/Atkins-diet-cancer-risk.html

CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-181273/Cancer-risk-45-higher-Pill.html

COOKING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-382571/Frying-increase-cancer-risk.html

CORDLESS PHONES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-515970/After-cancer-warnings-mobiles-home-phone-putting-health-danger.html

CRAYONS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6706/Safety-alert-best-selling-crayons.html

CURRY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-342632/Cancer-dye-Grossman-curry-sauce.html

DEODRANT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-205705/Deodorants-linked-cancer.html

DIETING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-73056/Is-diet-lifestyle-putting-risk-breast-cancer.html

DOGS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-490581/Can-dogs-breast-cancer-Bizarre-medical-theories-experts-claim-actually-true.html

EGGS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-50995/Cancer-chemicals-eggs.html

ELECTRICITY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-449679/Power-lines-link-cancer-new-alert.html

ENGLISH BREAKFAST http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049142/Traditional-English-fry-raise-risk-bowel-cancer-63-cent.html

FACEBOOK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1149207/How-using-Facebook-raise-risk-cancer.html

FALSE NAILS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1174768/Having-nails-skin-cancer-doctors-warn-women.html

FATHERHOOD http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506501/Prostate-risk-having-family-according-new-study.html

FIBRE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4903/Fibre-cancer-risk-warning.html

FISH http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-117840/Fish-cancer-scare.html

FLIP FLOPS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1025915/Wearing-FLIP-FLOPS-skin-cancer-doctors-warn.html

FLY SPRAY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-459938/Using-pesticide-sprays-home-double-risk-brain-tumours.html

FRUIT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-371260/Breast-cancer-drug-cuts-death-risk.html

GARDENS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-326153/Australians-warned-backyard-cancer-risk.html

GRAPEFRUIT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-468559/Eating-grapefruit-increase-breast-cancer-risk-third.html

HAIR DYE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1017259/How-using-hair-dye-increase-risk-cancer.html

HAM http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-490845/Is-safe-eat-Cancer-report-adds-bacon-ham-drink-danger-list.html

HEIGHT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1064454/Bigger-taller-baby-girls-higher-risk-breast-cancer-says-study.html

HONEY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-429303/Families-risk-toxic-imported-foods.html

HOT DRINKS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html

HRT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1214782/HRT-increases-risk-dying-lung-cancer.html#ixzz0dueJ7qOY

INTERNET http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-312505/Cancer-patients-risk-websites.html

IVF http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-148228/How-IVF-raises-cancer-risks.html

KIDNEY TRANSPLATS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-459097/TV-prize-kidney-carries-risk-cancer.html

LAMB http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-446559/Red-meat-link-higher-risk-breast-cancer.html

LARGE HEADS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-370870/Big-headed-babies-prone-cancer.html

LEFT-HANDEDNESS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-363477/Left-handers-likely-breast-cancer.html

LIPSTICK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-499967/Is-lipstick-giving-cancer.html

LIVER TRANSPLANTS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-207838/Cancer-liver-transplant-killed-husband.html

MENOPAUSE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-395201/Weight-gain-menopause-increases-breast-cancer-risk.html

MENSTRUATION http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-68946/Do-women-need-periods.html

METAL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1081692/The-metals-daily-glass-wine-linked-cancer-Parkinsons.html

MILK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-328863/Milk-linked-ovarian-cancer.html

MOBILE PHONES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-473553/Orange-remove-mobile-mast-tower-doom-cancer-rate-soared.html

MODERN LIVING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-474157/Modern-living-blame-cancer-epidemic.html

MONEY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1025375/Wealthy-background-raise-risk-cancer-teenagers.html

MORPHINE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1230208/Pain-drug-morphine-cause-cancer-spread.html#ixzz0dudlHqN2

MOUTHWASH http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1113422/Mouthwash-causes-oral-cancer-pulled-supermarkets-say-experts.html

NUCLEAR POWER (there is no hint of irony in this article) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-42066/New-study-links-nuclear-sites-cancer.html

OBESITY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-245997/Obesity-raises-risk-cancer.html

OESTROGEN http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4098/Oestrogen-link-breast-cancer.html

OLDER FATHERs http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1223025/Why-older-fathers-likely-children-genetic-disorders.html#ixzz0dudLlJsP

PASTRY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html

PEANUT BUTTER http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1164417/Food-watchdog-warning-peanut-butter-brand-containing-cancer-causing-fungus.html

PERFUME http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1051130/How-perfumes-scented-creams-make-unborn-baby-infertile.html

PICKLES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html

PIZZA http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-341698/New-food-dye-warning.html

PLASTIC BAGS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1207840/Plastic-decomposes-sea-releases-cancer-causing-chemicals-study-warns.html#ixzz0duexZlFs

PORK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1093039/After-alert-Irish-pork-safe-beef.html

POTATOES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-115037/Cancer-chemical-link-cooked-food.html

POVERTY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-474820/SUZANNE-MOORE-Im-sick-told-fault.html

PREGNANCY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-82458/Breast-cancer-risk-career-women.html

RADIOACTIVITY (again, just no irony whatsoever) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-421140/As-radioactive-spy-buried-bar-staff-served-facing-cancer-risk.html

RICE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-444222/Rice-tainted-arsenic-raises-risk-cancer.html

SAUSAGES http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-550729/Why-eating-just-sausage-day-raises-cancer-risk-20-cent.html

RETIREMENT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1220446/Oh-Work-good-especially-youve-retired.html#ixzz0ducbviCE

SEX http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-191219/Did-sex-cancer.html

SHAVING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-206459/Shaving-raise-cancer-risk.html

SKIING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-206243/Skiers-warned-cancer-risk.html

SOUP http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1132814/Salty-soups-increase-cancer-risk-says-expert.html

SPACE TRAVEL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1015482/How-astronauts-risk-cancer--premature-ageing--travelling-space.html

SUN CREAM http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-592076/Cancer-fear-childrens-sun-creams.html

TALCUM POWDER http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1063040/Cancer-alert-talc-Women-using-powder-day-risk.html

TEA http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-87131/Too-tea-treble-cancer-risk-women.html

TEEN SEX http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1237530/Girls-sex-teens-greater-risk-developing-cervical-cancer.html#ixzz0dudvXOF7

VITAMINS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-320006/Vitamin-pills-cause-early-deaths.html

WATER http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13620/Cancer-link-tap-water-radon-hotspots.html

WI-FI http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-456534/The-classroom-cancer-risk-wi-fi-internet.html

WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-338899/Dye-alert-spreads-school-meals.html

WORKING http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1031934/Why-men-desk-jobs-higher-risk-prostate-cancer.html

X-RAYS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-207035/X-rays-bring-risk-cancer.html

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Kurtle, you confuse me a lot.

The Sun, despite being full of a lot of crap at times, is very effective at what it does/is a good tabloid/caters for the masses.

Mirror is on the decline and mainly old people who read it in its heyday read it now, but its nothing offensive.

The Daily Star is a comic and should be ignored.

The Guardian and i/Independent I see no reason why you want to see them gone. I think you'll find lots of these revelations about the NOTW are thanks to investigations by The Guardian.

 

Sun: Is that why the masses are stupid sheep?

Mirror = Pointless

Star = Crap Sun

 

The Guardian seems to hate Govternment oppression; yet seem to love dishing out thought-crime accusations, PC-bullshit and seems so unbelievably up it's own arse etc. It just has such an everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others attitude. I can't stand it.

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The Mail is good for a laugh though.

 

Things that will give you Cancer according to the Daily Mail;

 

I'm just waiting for the Daily Mail to admit that itself gives us Cancer.

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The Guardian seems to hate Govternment oppression; yet seem to love dishing out thought-crime accusations, PC-bullshit and seems so unbelievably up it's own arse etc. It just has such an everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others attitude. I can't stand it.

 

u mad?

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Its largely a personal thing but as soon as someone dismisses "PC" as being "bullshit" (or similar such things) I disregard that view. It's just a go-to statement that it implies (to me) a lack of thought. Its a knee jerk reaction, often to mis/false reporting. "Oh a school won't allow their lunch staff to be called 'lunchladies'? POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!"

 

And your idea isn't a knee-jerk reaction with a lack of thought?

 

Political Correctness doesn't need to "go mad", it is, and always has been an insulting term, and almost always uses inane reasoning (unless for selfish/twisted reasons).

To use "PC gone mad" certainly is used with a lack of thought, especially since it implies you'd be using PC as an insult without suggesting it mad.

 

 

It's probably not a good idea stereotypes/straw-men to fight against a point I've not even made. It's good to see you not (yet) fall into the typical pit of throwing words like bully and racism* like so many others seem to do *coughguardiancough* however.

 

Actual non-stupid people use the term political correctness to save writing an entire essay every time someone whines about something. Just because some retards misuse words, it doesn't mean everyone who uses it does. Political Correctness covers a lot more than just word use of course.

Is there a non-PC reason someone shouldn't be called a lunchlady? I can't honestly think of one. Please enlighten me.

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And your idea isn't a knee-jerk reaction with a lack of thought?

 

Political Correctness doesn't need to "go mad", it is, and always has been an insulting term, and almost always uses inane reasoning (unless for selfish/twisted reasons).

To use "PC gone mad" certainly is used with a lack of thought, especially since it implies you'd be using PC as an insult without suggesting it mad.

 

 

It's probably not a good idea stereotypes/straw-men to fight against a point I've not even made. It's good to see you not (yet) fall into the typical pit of throwing words like bully and racism* like so many others seem to do *coughguardiancough* however.

 

Actual non-stupid people use the term political correctness to save writing an entire essay every time someone whines about something. Just because some retards misuse words, it doesn't mean everyone who uses it does. Political Correctness covers a lot more than just word use of course.

Is there a non-PC reason someone shouldn't be called a lunchlady? I can't honestly think of one. Please enlighten me.

 

It's my personal experience that the phrase "political correctness" is mostly used when it has gotten out of hand. Up until then I'd classify it as "common sense". But that's just my personal opinion.

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I dislike political correctness.

 

It's a dangerous line between calling a spade a spade and calling it a wood/metal-hybrid manual digging device.

 

I was brought up in a world without too much political correctness, but a respect for different races and cultures.

 

I used the "N" word once and my mother damn near beat me to death.

 

Yep, she really hated nephrologists.

Posted

Am I the only uncultured one who thinks newspapers are a complete waste of paper and just reads everything on the internet when it happens for free, instead paying 30p to read about it 12-24 hours later?

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Am I the only uncultured one who thinks newspapers are a complete waste of paper and just reads everything on the internet when it happens for free, instead paying 30p to read about it 12-24 hours later?

 

You're not by any stretch of the imagination however there is a lot in the papers that never makes it to their web versions and vice versa. The best journalism tends to be in the papers though and is only moved to the subscription based services in iPad app's for example.

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Why is everyone saying getting rid of News of the World was a mad decision?

 

It's a slowly dying medium.

 

If I was about to drop 7 billion for the future of British TV I wouldn't give a shit about a paper that is now only selling 2 and a half million every Sunday.

Posted (edited)

NOTW film critic Robbie Collin on Paul McMullan:

 

The slimebag last worked for the paper 11 years ago, yet is happy to say "we do this" every night on live telly like he still works here.

 

The worst thing is, he's nothing to do with us, hasn't worked here for 11 years, apparently was a walking joke when he did. How is a crumpled idiot who makes a tit of himself on Newsnight "as much of a journalist" as I am?

 

Ed Miliband will urge MPs to halt Murdoch's BSkyB takeover

 

The Sun's Twitter:

NotW - RIP. A loss to 1st class journalism. Ed Miliband, Guardian and BBC; how proud you must be of your work this week.

 

LEAKED: Rebekah Brooks Secretly Recorded By News Of The World Staffers

 

BBC News:

Labour is calling for an immediate start to the judicial phone-hacking inquiry so evidence will not be lost when the News of the World closes.

 

News International has said a Guardian report that millions of e-mails may have been deleted was "rubbish".

 

Number 10 said that it was acting "as rapidly as possible and legally permissible" and that steps were being taken to appoint a judge to lead it.

 

The Guardian

Police are investigating evidence that a News International executive may have deleted millions of emails from an internal archive in an apparent attempt to obstruct Scotland Yard's inquiry into the phone-hacking scandal.

 

The archive is believed to have reached back to January 2005, revealing daily contact between News of the World editors, reporters and outsiders, including private investigators. The messages are potentially highly valuable both for the police and for the numerous public figures who are suing News International (NI).

 

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It's weird that they don't mention Clarkson writes for The Sun also.

 

Anyways, I'll be buying a copy tomorrow. Like with all that royal commoration day crap papers make, the last "ever" issue may be worth something someday.

Posted

I agree. There'll be 5 million printed and quite a lot of people will have the same idea.

 

It's why my original Atari 2600 with wooden casing isn't worth anything.

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So... The Sun illegally obtained medical records on Gordon Brown's son. The Sunday Times illegally obtained his financial and property records. And NotW illegally obtained the Royal 'Green Book', as well as (rumoured) hacking the voicemails of 9/11 victims.

 

If this week carries on like this then the walls are going to start falling. The possibility that the rot is present in not just The Sun, but also The Times is going to irreversibly damage News International. If they've been at the voicemail inboxes of 9/11 victims then expect the public uproar to spread stateside.

 

It's a weird feeling thinking that by the time 2012 comes around we might have an unrecognisable media, one that is considerably less powerful that before.


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