Guest Jordan Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I have to ask, am I the only person who doesn't get shouting in music? "RAAARRRRRR WARRR RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR". Urgh. Keep doing it, you'll fuck your vocal chords eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pookiablo Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I have to ask, am I the only person who doesn't get shouting in music? "RAAARRRRRR WARRR RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR". Urgh. Keep doing it, you'll fuck your vocal chords eventually. Nope, I agree with you. I find it can very rarely be put to some sort of decent effect but otherwise it could just be sung a hell of a lot better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I have to ask, am I the only person who doesn't get shouting in music? "RAAARRRRRR WARRR RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR". Urgh. Keep doing it, you'll fuck your vocal chords eventually. Well, music conveys emotion, and shouting is something we all do when we're angry (an emotion). So in that sense it kind of makes sense. I do, however, think that people who can only convey anger with shouting are piss poor musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I think it depends on the type of music. Strategically placed shouts can sort of underline a point in a song. Songs with shouting all the way through is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 It can occasionally sound good/cool/interesting. 99.9% of the time it sounds ridiculous and tends to ruin songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You hit the nail on the head when you said "I don't get it" :P If you're singing "you stole my heart with a lip stick dagger" like some robbie williams or something the song sounds cheesy and forced and.. laaame. If you're shouting it (which, when done properly, actually takes some skill and control, but I'll let O_W/Bardie Boy go into that, for I know no terms) then it immediately portrays a different emotion. Rather than stating "i hate you", shouting it at someone surely conveys to them that there's more than just words to that statement? What our grandparents used to complain about wasn't the shouting or the screaming of our day, but the random "a-hur-huh!" type noises that punctuated early rock music. It seemed unnecessary and arbitrary... but that's just because they didn't understand the music - hell, they couldn't understand their own reaction to what they were hearing. The only metal gig I went to was Meshuggah, and it felt like the guy "singing" was "singing" with us, not for or at us. Hard to explain, but... yeah. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 In music where shouting is often found, like a lot of metal, it usually sounds awful and ridiculous. But then so does a lot of metal. There is some good stuff out there I've heard though. Shout can work in normal music, but not just...random...shouts. More like an angrier way of singing something. Tori Amos is an example. It's built-up to though. Bjork too. But then her voice flows into the loud bits well, so it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwolf Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I like shouting in alot of songs, my favourite is Flyleaf - I'm so sick. Its timed well and she doesn't constantly scream til her lungs hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramar Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Whats your beef with Lulu's - Shout, huh Jordan?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jav_NE Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I don't like the shouting in metal music so much, but i do like 'throat singers', used alot in post hardcore music or whatever the hell you want to call it (often mistaken for emo, which is so wrong i dont even want to get into it). Alexisonfire and Atreyu are my favourites, and good examples. A lot of these bands also mix sing melody as well so you get the best of both worlds But yeah, 'i hate you' songs from hardcore metal bands dont go down well with me. The music in GTA IV Lost & Damned for example, in the second safehouse... man that shit is awful. I hate it. It all depends on the band though and the tone of the shout as i do like some metal bands, mainly from the nu-metal era though - S.O.A.D, Drowning Pool, Disturbed etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I find it rather overdone and tedious, just like you get lots of people who think they can sing properly and really well etc, you get just as many people who think they can shout properly and really well etc. It has its place, and usually I find that's when it's done with some semblance of tunefulness underneath, not just shouting lots and lots as loud/screechy as you can. I know some people like that, I personally just do not. More often than not, it also ruins what could otherwise be a pretty good song for me, ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I agree on what everything Jav has said. It all depends on the tone and on the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letty Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'm all for screaming. Sometimes the more the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Dream idea; find some b-boys with their r&b blaring out massively, then drive up next to them and just blare out brokencyde/totally radd/death metal. And just stare at them. Stare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I wonder what song contains alot of shouting than music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenno182 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Think it mostly sounds good in the right context. Shite like Falloutboy doing it is just ridiculous but stuff like early Avenged Sevenfold the screaming is pretty good, ditto with stuff like System of a Down. That's screaming though, Jesse from brand new tends to do a kind of melodic shout if that makes sense but it really is brilliant from an emotional point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 brand new - Okay I believe you but my tommy gun don't. Genius build up towards the screaming. Totally necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) brand new - Okay I believe you but my tommy gun don't. Genius build up towards the screaming. Totally necessary. My fav Brand New song. He does the same on "The Quiet Things that No One Ever Knows". Edited March 11, 2009 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenno182 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 brand new - Okay I believe you but my tommy gun don't. Genius build up towards the screaming. Totally necessary. he screams more on that album and the previous 1, I'm more referring to the new album where it's a sort of shout. Sowing Season for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyellowbloke Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I agree; shouting does have its place in some music, but not others. For example in some metal, some drum & base and other alternative type music stuff it can sound quite good. However, in folk, reggae, trance, chillout, acoustic and most classical it wouldn't really go. Generally though, no pointless throaty screaming in the metal sense ain't my bag (with a few exceptions along the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killthenet Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What's wrong with it if it makes sense for the style of music? Foot Village for example are all about primitivism. Shouting is primitive. Therefore it works perfectly for the tone of their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 he screams more on that album and the previous 1, I'm more referring to the new album where it's a sort of shout. Sowing Season for example. Sowing season was more about unintelligable screaming, yah :P Doesn't happen as much so I didn't think it was as good an example. Been prepping for the gig in a couple of months and I don't have tdagarim on my laptop... noooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 It depends what you're into. If you had something by the Righteous Brothers, and then added some shouty vocals into it, it would just sound awful. I think the vocals only make up a small part of the song itself. I'll mostly connect with the music itself, at least with the majority of my favourite songs. But, I think I do like having a distinguishing voice. Someone like Thom Yorke, for example. He's got a very specific voice, and it's just what I like. For shouty, the most I actually go for would be...something like Rage against the Machine. I just like my stuff to sound a certain way. As do most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkatronics Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Sometimes its ok, but sometimes they can be out of tune. Personally i like most songs like that, its just what i end up listening to a lot. Edited March 11, 2009 by Kirkatronics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 nahhh Corey pulls it off well in slipknot, and hes got a crackin voice to back it up. But theyre is some stuff thats just too shouty, like you can tell there shouting cos there wank at singing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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