EEVILMURRAY Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 We had the betamax, then we changed to the VHS, moved on to doovdé because of it's visual superiority, now blu-ray is meant to be even more visually spectacular. Same with TV, analogue onto digital, and now HD is being thrown into the mix. How far do you think this is going to go? Personally I think it's getting all a bit unnecessary. Go.
Jav_NE Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 We were talking about music the other day and how we remember casettes. God those things were awful! Having to fast forward all the time to your song, having to turn the damn thing over! And lets not forget having to fix them when the tape came out using a pencil to wind it back in. But with all its problems, its still the only device you can use to record off the radio! (at least i think it is). Thats pretty impressive. I'm glad for the most part that we've moved on into a digital era. DVD's are great, so are Blu-Rays (though they wont replace DVDs for a long time yet). Its like how CD's are still alive despite the iPod and mp3 player boom. The only failures have been HD-DVD and mini-discs, the latter of which will not be missed. It's not unecessary. It's just evolution
Dan_Dare Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 3D next, if James Cameron is to believed. His new project, Avatar, is supposed to be creating a 'photo realistic 3D environment' more akin to looking through a window than looking at a 2D projected image. If he's right, and I think he is, it's going to change cinema forever.
EEVILMURRAY Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 We were talking about music the other day and how we remember casettes. God those things were awful! Having fto ast forward all the time to your song, having to turn the damn thing over! And lets not forget having to fix them when the tape came out using a pencil to wind it back in. But with all its problems, its still the only device you can use to record off the radio! (at least i think it is). Thats pretty impressive. I'm glad for the most part that we've moved on into a digital era. DVD's are great, so are Blu-Rays (though they wont replace DVDs for a long time yet). Its like how CD's are still alive despite the iPod and mp3 player boom. The only failures have been HD-DVD and mini-discs, the latter of which will not be missed. It's not unecessary. It's just evolution I had Mini-Discs! They were alright for awhile. I was meaning to touch upon music also. I was thinking about this yesterday and I get a flashback scene from The Rock where Cage orders a Beatles LP, and says they sound better. For the older generationings here, do you concur?
nightwolf Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 It's not unecessary. It's just evolution Nothing more needs to be said really. Would we benefit by bringing back vhs? I'd think not, its not as if they will be burned and banned now that blu-ray is on its way.
Dan_Dare Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Technically, records do actually sound better than CDs. It's due to the analogue to digital transfer. The thing is, Records are very easily damaged and quickly loose their quality. tbh though- the media is often irrelevant. Matters much more what you play it through, not off. *pats sexy as fuck Hi- Fi*
nightwolf Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I was only specifically aiming at films there, but if you want to get technically about music, then yes maybe we should bring back records, but as you mentioned, its more convient to have cds..or more recently downloads. Its a shame downloading is taking over everything, I miss actually buying cds and dvds..
Shino Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 3D next, if James Cameron is to believed. His new project, Avatar, is supposed to be creating a 'photo realistic 3D environment' more akin to looking through a window than looking at a 2D projected image. If he's right, and I think he is, it's going to change cinema forever. Suppose you have seen this: Its neat but I don't see how they overcome some technical hurdles. I would prefer real 3D, like stuff floating around in the room and there's been some real pushes in that direction. Technically, records do actually sound better than CDs. It's due to the analogue to digital transfer. The thing is, Records are very easily damaged and quickly loose their quality. Analogue sound is "purer" but all the information contained in it isn't needed, MP3 compression algorithms has all the tricks needed to keep sounding the same. As to my opinion, even with my slow ass 4Mb internet, I can stream HD content without problems, so as internet becomes more wildly available and faster, even HD 3D content won't be a problem and future media use will be residual.
ReZourceman Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Nothing more needs to be said really. Would we benefit by bringing back vhs? I'd think not, its not as if they will be burned and banned now that blu-ray is on its way. I'm not sure anyones saying we should bring back certain formats tbh... Its a shame downloading is taking over everything, I miss actually buying cds and dvds.. Downloading won't replace physical buying, as you said you would miss buying the physical product, many people prefer to have something actual, particularly people who are fans of x product, so downloading is in addition to, and it definitely won't replace their counterparts.
jayseven Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 3D next, if James Cameron is to believed. His new project, Avatar, is supposed to be creating a 'photo realistic 3D environment' more akin to looking through a window than looking at a 2D projected image. If he's right, and I think he is, it's going to change cinema forever. Nami recently read about this - all movies are being filmed this way from now on, apparantly! I'll ask her to post on here...
Paj! Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Blu-Ray to the DVD is not what the DVD was to the video, and it seems like a bit too much of a price increase. Of course they give the good extras to Blu-Rays now, and if you have an HD tv, I'm sure it's brilliant. But yeah, I assume the next big leap'll be somekinda USB-esque thing.
Ten10 Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Personally I think with things like up scaling dvd players doing the rounds, blu ray has a long way to go to even think about unseating dvd. I personally don't see a bluray player as a worthy purchase not at the moment. Although fair point to bluray dvd took its time unseating VHS. But the differences between those two formats a grandeur in comparison to the whole bluray dvd affair.
weeyellowbloke Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 DVD is great, but Blu-Ray, HD and all that bollocks is just unnecessary. Until there are holographic displays or something I'm sticking with plain "poor quality" discs. Also vinyl actually does sound ever so slightly better than CD, but to be honest having a decent pair of speakers has more of an effect. However , again I'm sticking to the old school rather than turning to downloading music from iplayer and such like. Mainly because when it comes to sound quality CD and vinyl shit all over downloaded music. Man I sound like a technophobic old man. Now I know how my dad feels.
RoadKill Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Mainly because when it comes to sound quality CD and vinyl shit all over downloaded music. This simply doesn't have to be true, if you pirate lossless music such as flac, then by definition its the same as the CD it was ripped from Also, DVD was much better than VHS for reasons EVERYONE could notice on any quality TV:- it was smaller, you didn't have to rewind it, you could skip to any point, and when you paused it wouldn't look like flickery shit. It also didn't naturally degrade with spots and shit over the screen. Recording of course was still on VHS for a while, but now people tend to use HDD based shit. Blu-ray, nobody gives a fuck about because unless you have a top-bollock TV, you don't notice the difference. It's simply not a mass market product for now
Dante Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 The future televisions SED or Laser? For mobile phones future look at Japanese phones.
Emasher Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 If you've got a decent sized TV. Blu-ray is simply amazing. I've got a 50" Samsung Plasma, and its better watching BD films on it than going to the cinema. Upscaling DVD players are fine for smaller HDTVs, but you're still going to notice a difference on any HDTV. I hate it when people think a product is useless to everyone just because they're not the intended audience of it. Blu-ray has a purpose. On a 40"+ TV, upscaled DVD just doesn't compare. And once you can get a cheap Blu-ray drive for a computer, the format will be great for backups.
Grazza Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I'm all for it, personally, although I must admit, every time I see HD I think to myself "This is good, but it's not amazing". I think the colours impress me more than anything (saw a showreel of Into the Blue and Casino Royale yesterday). Really, it's just making TVs a similar quality to computer monitors, which is fine by me. I wouldn't buy a large one though. I want 1080p, ideally in 28", but I might have to buy a 32" if they never make one.
Dante Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 If you've got a decent sized TV. Blu-ray is simply amazing. I've got a 50" Samsung Plasma, and its better watching BD films on it than going to the cinema. Upscaling DVD players are fine for smaller HDTVs, but you're still going to notice a difference on any HDTV. I hate it when people think a product is useless to everyone just because they're not the intended audience of it. Blu-ray has a purpose. On a 40"+ TV, upscaled DVD just doesn't compare. And once you can get a cheap Blu-ray drive for a computer, the format will be great for backups. We still far way with the HDTV and Blu-ray market getting popular. What so special having 50" Samsung Plasma HDTV and did you say it better than going to the cinema?
dwarf Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 If I didn't have a PS3 I wouldn't give a crap about blu-ray, but seeing as I do, I think they're great.
RoadKill Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I've got a 50" Samsung Plasma Hey guys I'm rich, what up poor people
or else you will DIE Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 i'm not too fussy about picture quality with films and stuff when it comes to music though, i only ever buy vinyl
Cube Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I had Sky HD. It was good for a week but then I barely noticed it (except for when I was flipping from SD to HD and looking for it). I noticed it so much that I stopped using Sky One HD because it was easier to press 106. I still see Blu-Ray - DVD in the same light as Minidisk - CD.
EEVILMURRAY Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 Its a shame downloading is taking over everything, I miss actually buying cds and dvds.. Nothing wrong with getting off your arse and doing so is it? I've seen you post about how you went out shopping. Don't bullshit us.
Sheikah Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Blu-Ray to the DVD is not what the DVD was to the video, and it seems like a bit too much of a price increase. Of course they give the good extras to Blu-Rays now, and if you have an HD tv, I'm sure it's brilliant. But yeah, I assume the next big leap'll be somekinda USB-esque thing. Actually in terms of resolution Blu Ray is easily a bigger boost in quality from DVD than VHS was to DVD, but most people aren't that bothered about further jumps in quality, at least not at the moment. DVDs don't lose their picture quality like VHS did, aren't fat and clunky, are cheap and can easily be recorded by anyone with a cheap DVD writer, so they'll stick around for many years. Many video DVDs are a tenner when they come out, whereas they're usually a fiver to a tenner more than that on Blu Ray - but since people with HDTVs are likely willing to pay more it doesn't matter much to them. But one thing you can guarantee is that anyone buying new TVs (of reasonable size) in the UK these days are most likely buying one that is HD Ready, so it can only get more popular. Hey guys I'm rich, what up poor people It has nothing to do with being rich; it's entirely people's attitude to money. There are so many pissheads our age in the UK that simply cannot keep onto money for more than 5 seconds, since as their title suggests; they are pissheads. Many of us are living rent free (or not paying the rent for a good while) either due to parent ownership of the house/being young, or having student loans. I found it extremely easy to afford a HDTV after little more than a month doing a few-shift part time job while I was at university. Meanwhile, people who go out too often tend to have little money to afford the little luxuries like these things.
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