Fierce_LiNk Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 US astronomers say they have found the first direct evidence for the mysterious stuff called dark matter. Dark matter - which does not emit or reflect enough light to be "seen" - is thought to make up 25% of the Universe. By contrast, the ordinary matter we can see is believed to make up no more than about 5% of our Universe. Until now, astronomers have only been able to infer the existence of this dark material through the gravitational effects it has on ordinary matter. The researchers have discovered what is effectively the gravitational signature of dark matter. This signature was created by dark matter and ordinary matter being wrenched apart by the immense collision of two large galaxy clusters. "The kinetic energy of this collision is...enough to completely evaporate and pulverise planet Earth ten trillion trillion times over," said team member Maxim Markevitch of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, US. Study leader Doug Clowe, from the University of Arizona, said: "This provides the first direct proof that dark matter must exist and that it must make up the majority of the matter in the Universe." Source:BBC Well, we have quite a few people on this board who like topics like this. Space does interest me, and we have quite a few topics on here related to it. I just read this and was interested by it. Isn't it strange that something we can't see or touch makes up a quarter of everything in the Universe? How trippy.
The Bard Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 You mean like Dust? Wasn't Dark matter one of the names for Dust in HDM? Lol, if only Anyway, this is pretty strange yeah, so many things we dont know about the universe...
conzer16 Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Ah dark matter. How we pondered your existance, discussed your potential and feared your wrath......in our Leaving Cert physics class! If Dark Matter could contained (if it can be found first!) the possibilities would only begin to unfold.
Shino Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 "The kinetic energy of this collision is...enough to completely evaporate and pulverise planet Earth ten trillion trillion times over," said team member Maxim Markevitch of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, US. We really needed this comparison, I really couldn't grasp the magnitude of this event just by saying that two huge galaxys collided making the first visible rip between dark mater and normal matter.
weeyellowbloke Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I find the idea of dark matter and dark energy slightly unnerving. The fact that empty space itself can have energy affecting all the 5% of matter we see and yet we know so little about something which constitutes 95% of the universe. Frankly I want to know what these forces are up to, at least with gravity you know where you stand (on the ground). This signature was created by dark matter and ordinary matter being wrenched apart by the immense collision of two large galaxy clusters. "The kinetic energy of this collision is...enough to completely evaporate and pulverise planet Earth ten trillion trillion times over," said team member Maxim Markevitch of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, US. That is just mind blowing. It's just.... :shock: Our planet just seems to mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Ginger_Chris Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 to be fair, dark matter and dark energy are just names we've given these two things that we know hardley anything about, they arn't actually forms of energy or matter (well they could be but we dont know). Its another one of those cass where the theory suggests these things exists, so we try and find them. dark energy and dark matter are just names, all we really know about them is that they exist and they they have gravitaional attraction. basically they're a fudge to fit the equations. (it happens alot in physics, everythings a damn fudge, or perfect scenario). And yea the earth is meanignless in the universe, its fairly arrogant to think the universe revolvesaround, and created for, a buch of primates that got smart enough to be that arrogant.
Dan_Dare Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 iiinteresting. isn't there a theory that states dark matter and matter colliding kind of cancell each other out? or is that anti matter...
Hellfire Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 Anti matter and matter were supposed to be in equal quantities when at the begging of the universe.
Ginger_Chris Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 anti-matter and matter dont exactly cancel each other out. the particle/anti-particle pairs annihilate and release huge amounts of energy (or if the energy is high enough new particles are created). E=mc^2, in fact. So a electron and positron will annihilate, as will a proton and anti-proton. It would provide an amazing and clean source of energy. Too bad antimatter takes massive amounts of energy to create, and containment its pretty tricky (but possible).
LazyBoy Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 anti-matter and matter dont exactly cancel each other out. the particle/anti-particle pairs annihilate and release huge amounts of energy (or if the energy is high enough new particles are created). E=mc^2, in fact. So a electron and positron will annihilate, as will a proton and anti-proton. It would provide an amazing and clean source of energy. Too bad antimatter takes massive amounts of energy to create, and containment its pretty tricky (but possible). Do you mind telling me how it is exactly that anti-matter is created? It has just always fascinated me.
EEVILMURRAY Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 I'm not sure I'm buying all this. They're basically saying that because gravity doesn't work exactly how it does on Earth = Dark Matter. Big assumption there. Is that their reasoning for the way man walked on the moon?
Mokong Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 Star Trek style ships will be coming soon.... i get 1st go on the ship that will enevitably be calle "Enterprise"
MoogleViper Posted August 23, 2006 Posted August 23, 2006 I always get confused between dark matter and dark energy.
DCK Posted August 23, 2006 Posted August 23, 2006 Wasn't dark matter explained by the existence of absolutely sick amounts of neutrinos (tiny, tiny particles having a wee bit of mass)?
Demuwan Posted August 23, 2006 Posted August 23, 2006 So many questions. Is Phazon Dark Matter? How come we can see Dark Samus? Do any of these physicist's know what they are talking about:p ?
soag Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 So many questions. Is Phazon Dark Matter? How come we can see Dark Samus? I knew that was coming
Gaijin von Snikbah Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 This explains it all... I think. The composition of dark matter is unknown, but may include new elementary particles such as WIMPs and axions, ordinary and heavy neutrinos, dwarf stars and planets collectively called MACHOs, and clouds of nonluminous gas. Current evidence favors models in which the primary component of dark matter is new elementary particles, collectively called nonbaryonic dark matter.
somme Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 It won't be long untill we can power this: I hope it's soon cos i've got one at home.
Ginger_Chris Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 basically, scientists havent got a clue what dark matter is and are just guessing. oh and for the anti-matter info click here, it explains the basics pretty well. basically antimatter is created in exactly the same way we create matter, from high energy collsions between supidly fast moving electrons. the released energy can be turned into matter or antimatter
mario114 Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 So does this mean we live in a closed universe or have they still not got an idea about how much dark matter there is? Well not that it matters much...
gaggle64 Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 I seem to recall they're doing dark-matter experiments in a deep mine shaft in Yorkshire. I wonder how that's going?
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