Ashley Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Remasters at launch (hell, remasters years after a launch) are nothing new but yeah it would have been good for that to be clarified.
Will Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Would definitely be nice if it was something totally new. As someone that didn’t play it originally I’ll look forward to playing this expanded version but I’d definitely be disappointed if I’d already played it,
drahkon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 I see that the PS5 is doomed, given how many people appear to be massively disappointed about this news. As if this changes anything with regards to the myriad of other games that have been announced. Remasters/upgraded versions were inevitable and pretty much every one expected them from day one. Insomniac Games were able to deliver this new version and the new Ratchet and Clank so that's actually quite impressive to me.
Goron_3 Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Spiderman is a huge sell, especially because going to be an expanded edition. A full sequel will be a couple of years away, but it's a solid interim.
Ronnie Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) At least there's Ratchet and Clank as a launch day game you would assume, it's just disappointing to be looking forward to Spider-Man thanks to Playstation's typically hazy and misleading messaging, and then finding out it's not actually a new game. I'm sure it'll sell well though. Edited June 12, 2020 by Ronnie
Goron_3 Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ronnie said: At least there's Ratchet and Clank as a launch day game you would assume, it's just disappointing to be looking forward to Spider-Man thanks to Playstation's typically hazy and misleading messaging, and then finding out it's not actually a new game. I'm sure it'll sell well though. Remember, Spiderman on PS4 sold so well because of when they released it - the system was widely available at a much lower price (including the $199 black Friday offer) so it appealed to new console owners and existing console owners. For me it's the perfect year 3-4 game. I imagine a lot of young children loved the original on PS4 and they aren't going to be the ones purchasing a PS5. Speaking on price...I'm guessing the all digital version will be the cheaper option. Perhaps that will release at something like £350 and the other one at £400+? Sony make insane money from downloads so they could be pretty aggressive there. 1
Ronnie Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Goron_3 said: Remember, Spiderman on PS4 sold so well because of when they released it - the system was widely available at a much lower price (including the $199 black Friday offer) so it appealed to new console owners and existing console owners. For me it's the perfect year 3-4 game. I imagine a lot of young children loved the original on PS4 and they aren't going to be the ones purchasing a PS5. I get the business decisions for it, I was expecting them to have a major release for the PS5 launch but I never expected it to be Spider-Man, it's more the way it was shown off and messaged that I find annoying. Edited June 12, 2020 by Ronnie 2
Ashley Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Yeah the announcement could have been a lot better. They did seem to act as if they had to keep things very light which I kind of appreciate but maybe spending less time on GTAV would have given them time to at least elaborate on things here and there. It all makes sense now! 1
drahkon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 In a world where number of views, likes and dislikes have become a good measurement of popularity and outreach, the numbers Sony raked in with yesterday's presentation and trailers are insane. Quote According to Esports Charts, the PS5 reveal event broadcast peaked at over 7 million viewers, which is staggering. That number includes all of the official streams, as well as all of the restreams from streamers who watched along with their own audiences. The average viewership across the entire broadcast -- which includes the hour-long wait at the start -- was around 4 million. Crazy numbers. Individual videos uploaded to YouTube after the fact have also performed incredibly well. Horizon Forbidden West's announcement trailer currently has 2.5 million views, while Demon's Souls sits at a healthy 1 million. Elsewhere, Gran Turismo 7 and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart are on 1.2 million each, while Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales leads the pack at a whopping 4.3 million. Unsurprisingly, though, it's the hardware reveal itself that's blown up. The PS5 console reveal trailer currently has 10 million views, complete with 641,000 likes and only 22,000 dislikes. That's a great ratio for a system that looks so bold in its design. I always thought Sony knew exactly what they were doing with their occasional drip-feeds of information so this news comes as no surprise to me.
Ronnie Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Solid numbers but 4-7 million coming from a PS4 install-base of 100 million is hardly 'insane'. And for context, another couple of million YouTube views and it'll have reached the Series X reveal. Another 33 million views and it'll reach the Switch reveal trailer numbers. Edited June 12, 2020 by Ronnie
drahkon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) In case anybody's interested, here's the song of the hardware reveal: Spoiler I knew I've heard that song before. I've actually listened to MF Greaves' EP sometime in March when it was recommended to me on Spotify. Edited June 12, 2020 by drahkon
Mr-Paul Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Spider-man being a remaster actually tempts me a little more. I haven't got around to it on PS4 yet, so I could now hold off until PS5... All depends on whether the price of the console is palatable. I don't have too much game time these days so I'm sure there won't be a lack of software for me.
Goron_3 Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, drahkon said: In a world where number of views, likes and dislikes have become a good measurement of popularity and outreach, the numbers Sony raked in with yesterday's presentation and trailers are insane. I always thought Sony knew exactly what they were doing with their occasional drip-feeds of information so this news comes as no surprise to me. IIRC, that's about over double what the Switch reveal did in the same span of time. Individual trailer performance is also insanely high. The PS5 hardware reveal video on its own already has 9.5M views, compared to the XSX reveal which is only at 11M. It should pass it by the end of the day. For content, Microsoft released a new XSX video on social yesterday and it's currently on just 300K views on YouTube. Edited June 12, 2020 by Goron_3
drahkon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Goron_3 said: For content, Microsoft released a new XSX video on social yesterday and it's currently on just 300K views on YouTube. Seems like a pretty bad decision to me
Ronnie Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Goron_3 said: For content, Microsoft released a new XSX video on social yesterday and it's currently on just 300K views on YouTube. You really can't compare a new console reveal, to a 30 second ad for something already known about. 6 minutes ago, Goron_3 said: IIRC, that's about over double what the Switch reveal did in the same span of time. Switch reveal did 11 million overnight, so similar numbers. 1
Ashley Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Solid numbers but 4-7 million coming from a PS4 install-base of 100 million is hardly 'insane'. And for context, another couple of million YouTube views and it'll have reached the Series X reveal. Another 33 million views and it'll reach the Switch reveal trailer numbers. Well it's not like all 100 million would have tuned in (and a number of those will have bought the console multiple times) and Asia and Australasia would have been sleeping so it's not bad really. It's a higher figure than a lot ofTV shows nowadays!
drahkon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Why can't we just appreciate that the numbers are insane? Why does it always have to turn into a "but Switch numbers are better" thing? It's annoying. Every. Single. Time. Edited June 12, 2020 by drahkon 2 1
Ronnie Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, Ashley said: Well it's not like all 100 million would have tuned in (and a number of those will have bought the console multiple times) and Asia and Australasia would have been sleeping so it's not bad really. It's a higher figure than a lot ofTV shows nowadays! Not saying it's not a good number but it's hardly "insane". I would have expected more to be tuning in tbh, makes me wonder if those stats are right. Anyway this made me laugh 1
killthenet Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Viewership in the millions for a livestream is insane @Ronnie, that's a hell of a lot more than you get for your average E3 stream.
Goafer Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, drahkon said: Why can't we just appreciate that the numbers are insane? Why does it always have to turn into a "but Switch numbers are better" thing? It's annoying. Every. Single. Time. Because Sony can't have nice things. You have been on this forum before, right?
Sheikah Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Not saying it's not a good number but it's hardly "insane". I would have expected more to be tuning in tbh, makes me wonder if those stats are right. Anyway this made me laugh Maybe you should just stop posting in this topic, clearly you don't know what you're talking about and you've too much of an agenda to contribute meaningfully. The numbers for a livestream are insane; bringing total PS4 install base into the conversation is a pointless comparison, as well you know. Many gamers do not follow gaming news. Still, these numbers show an unprecedented level of enthusiasm that bodes well for the success of the console. 1 1
Julius Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) @Ronnie et al concerned with Spider-Man: Miles Morales being a remaster with some added comment based on that VGC "article"... Which is exactly what was expected beforehand. From the Telegraph article that everyone was sourcing, you get this: Quote However Rutter clarified it’s actually more akin to an expansion bolted on to an upgraded version of the original title. “I guess you could call it an expansion and an enhancement to the previous game,” he explained. “There’s a substantial Miles Morales component - which is the expansion element - but also within the game as well there’s been major enhancements to the game and the game engine, obviously deploying some of the major PlayStation 5 technology and features.” Looks like they took some creative liberties to reach that conclusion from Rutter's wording. Because you could also take the phrase "expansion and enhancement of the previous game" not as a bolted on, upgraded version, but instead as an expansion of the previous game in the same sense that Lost Legacy was for Uncharted 4, and enhancement in the same way that refining a game's engine for a new and more powerful console would be considered an enhancement. Even IGN were questioning it in their article. Good for them. Glad Insomniac have spoken up, but the problematic echo chamber of internet video games journalism becomes apparent I'm cases like this: quote taken in a very focused perspective, same article then jumps to conclusion (instead of clarifying, too? That's just bad journalism), and all of a sudden that's what's happening. Edited June 12, 2020 by Julius 2
Will Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 From that I take away that what is being launched on PS5 is an enhanced version of the original game which includes the “standalone” Mike Morales content built on the upgraded engine. Which is cool for me, but I’m not sure how much extra/new content it means for someone that’s played the original?
bob Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 I assumed it would be an enhanced version of New York from the first game, with a new story based around Miles, sort of like a 1.5 rather than a sequel. From the looks of the trailer, it'll have a few new enemies and suits, maybe a couple of new abilities, but running on the same engine as 1?
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