Happenstance Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Got to admit I've been considering cancelling myself over the past few days. Without the VC at launch I'm just not sure there is enough to keep me going after Zelda. Plus I think it says a lot (and this is nothing about the quality of Zelda) that I was more excited this weekend to start replaying the Mass Effect trilogy than I have been for Zelda and the Switch.
Shorty Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just paid for my Switch. Hyypppeeeeddddd. Hyped for; - No games. - No VC. - No Mario until December. - No information. - No idea why I purchased it. - Being a total lad. - Bomberman . Wheeeeey. You know Bomberman is full price right Instead, check out Snipperclips
Rummy Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) However, I am happy that, just like the NES Classic situation, I have managed to peel away from the nostalgic pull of Nintendo and vote with my wallet. My doing so is probably a drop in the ocean for Nintendo but at least it's a start. I think it's going to slowly amount to more than a drop in the ocean. It's clear even just from the community here that you're not the only one with that feeling about Nintendo - I've personally taken the same approach since the WiiU where I felt the product again wasn't doing enough for me at the price. I can definitely see where @Choze is coming from on the potential for sales - this has got some interesting hype and it's got quite a large release stock from the bits I was reading trying to find out about previous launch consoles etc. However I do think hype doesn't always translate and I'm worried that'll be the case here again; I'm wondering how many of those pre-orders are actually all going to sell through and not end up on eBay etc right afterwards. I think scalpers will still be targetting Nintendo hardware(also wonder if this happened and threw them off with WiiU) and I think they'll target Switch as well. I think other than people here I so far know one person definitely getting a Switch on Friday - but he's a big and lifetime sort of Nintendo gamer like us too. The only other person I've seen/met who wanted to get it was my mate's little cousin a few weeks ago - interestingly enough I'd say she's definitely not the sort to fit into 'our' demographic as it were; so it's interesting to see there's still multiple levels of appeal from Nintendo's products. Got to admit I've been considering cancelling myself over the past few days. Without the VC at launch I'm just not sure there is enough to keep me going after Zelda. Plus I think it says a lot (and this is nothing about the quality of Zelda) that I was more excited this weekend to start replaying the Mass Effect trilogy than I have been for Zelda and the Switch. Would you get one eventually, though? Is it worth having now(whilst there's still an arguable number of uncertainties around the console) or worth waiting for? I picked up my Wii U on eventual promise of games(Smash, XCX, Zelda...), and because it was the right price at the time and I thought to myself that paying a little more to have it a year or two sooner wasn't too bad. However Switch isn't doing it for me at the current price, and I don't see myself getting too much other use out of it myself if I got one now. If I were in @Kav's position of having a long commute each day I'd very likely pick one up now for the value it can give me on those journeys right now! Sadly I don't think it's so applicable when a lot of your commuting is driving one's self... Edited February 27, 2017 by Rummy
bob Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 I'll definitely get one eventually, but why buy one when it's full price and there aren't any games I want when I can wait for price drops and get two or three games with it.
Shorty Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just don't be surprised if those price drops never happen....
Happenstance Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Would you get one eventually, though? Is it worth having now(whilst there's still an arguable number of uncertainties around the console) or worth waiting for? I picked up my Wii U on eventual promise of games(Smash, XCX, Zelda...), and because it was the right price at the time and I thought to myself that paying a little more to have it a year or two sooner wasn't too bad. However Switch isn't doing it for me at the current price, and I don't see myself getting too much other use out of it myself if I got one now. If I were in @Kav's position of having a long commute each day I'd very likely pick one up now for the value it can give me on those journeys right now! Sadly I don't think it's so applicable when a lot of your commuting is driving one's self... I expect I probably would still pick it up down the line but more for my interest in new tech rather than being excited for whats coming. This is the reason why I will probably end up keeping the preorder now as well.
Fierce_LiNk Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 After thinking about it, and talking with Blade and Lostmario last night, i've cancelled my preorder. I can't justify shelling out £280 on a console that seems half baked and not ready. I can easily afford it but just because I can doesn't mean I should. The lack of online, Virtual Console and very thin launch line up has led me to this decision. There is only Zelda that I really want ( was interested in I Am Setsuna but it was on sale on PSN last week, so bought it for my PS4 ) and I can get that on the Wii U. A lot of the other games that are out on launch or coming soon after I have either played or already own on the Wii U or PS4. I'm honestly not happy with the launch at all and i'm surprised that it has taken me so long to come to this decision. However, I am happy that, just like the NES Classic situation, I have managed to peel away from the nostalgic pull of Nintendo and vote with my wallet. My doing so is probably a drop in the ocean for Nintendo but at least it's a start. Hopefully Nintendo will show something decent at E3, build up the library of games and have everything up and running for when I do decide to jump in. As it stands, I will be playing Zelda on my Wii U. At least i'll be able to post my adventures on Miiverse. That was a really sad post to read, but it also 100% reflects on my thoughts of the system and of Nintendo at the moment. I'm curious to see how E3 goes for Nintendo. Just don't be surprised if those price drops never happen.... There will be bundles of some kind later on. But, yeah, price drops won't happen. On another note, it also makes building up a library on Nintendo systems more difficult as the games don't tend to drop in value as much. A 32GB WiiU with Mario Kart is £266.49 on Amazon!
Helmsly Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I'm not buying a Switch for the time being but just out of curiosity to those of you saying you're not buying one partially because there won't be a VC at launch, if the VC WAS there what games would you have wanted to be available on March 3rd? I personally don't think we would have gotten more then a couple of NES and SNES titles at best. A 32GB WiiU with Mario Kart is £266.49 on Amazon! I remember just a year after the Wii U was released for £350, Play.com was selling the premium model Wii U for £200 with NSMB and the Luigi DLC included. This is the reason I bought mine. Although of course that wasn't an official price drop, just a store trying to clear stock.
Happenstance Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 For me the hope for the VC came from the original rumours that the GameCube VC would be available at launch. After that seemed less likely I just figured having a few NES/SNES games at launch would help pad out the launch lineup. I never bought any VC games from the Wii or Wii U.
Hero-of-Time Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I'm not buying a Switch for the time being but just out of curiosity to those of you saying you're not buying one partially because there won't be a VC at launch, if the VC WAS there what games would you have wanted to be available on March 3rd? I personally don't think we would have gotten more then a couple of NES and SNES titles at best. Like Happenstance, I was hoping the rumours of the Gamecube games being on the VC service was going to be true. Having something like Mario Sunshine or Smash Bros Melee at launch would have been enough to keep my preorder.
Blade Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 @Hero\-of\-Time would you have kept your preorder if Captain Toad 2 was a launch title?
Hero-of-Time Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 @Hero\-of\-Time would you have kept your preorder if Captain Toad 2 was a launch title? Totally! I was looking at the games coming out between now and E3 that I would want. Zelda - I've bought on the Wii U. I Am Setsuna - Bought for £20 on PSN last week. Puyo Puyo Tetris - Bought for my PS4 for a tenner cheaper than the Switch and can play online and chat with people at the same time. Dragon Quest Heroes 2 - Bought the original on the PS4 and will buy the sequel on the PS4. Arms - Interested in this and will be keeping my eye on how much there is to it. I think that's pretty much it. Oh, maybe Bomberman but only it I could find it for lower than £30.
Rummy Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I expect I probably would still pick it up down the line but more for my interest in new tech rather than being excited for whats coming. This is the reason why I will probably end up keeping the preorder now as well. Seems to me that a few of the fence adopters are intrigued by the tech more than anything else. I must be honest the idea of it does certainly appeal to me too, though HD rumble and NFC/amiibo don't fuss me so much; and the uncertainties around online and general success/support of the console after the Wii U is still leaving me rather weary combined with the price it's at. Tbh even at £200 it seems mad I'd drop money on something not supported to the extent I might like - but that's about my mark on what I'd pay for the experience atm. If I compare it to what I could buy for similar vs the competition I start to think it's a bit of a silly, even if I can't shift it!
Happenstance Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 It really does boil down to me being stupid with my money I'd say!
Shorty Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Gaming is my main interest and hobby, and Nintendo one of my oldest loves. If I don't splash out on that, what am I even working all these hours of my life for? :p
Daft Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 At this point I think I'd rather buy a PSVR than a Switch. But I would be surprised if that preference wasn't reversed in 18 months.
Jimbob Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 For me, the Switch is an interesting console. My decision to not get one comes down to: The Price for the console, games, accessories etc Games i want at launch In terms of games i'm after for launch, it's just Zelda. And between now and E3 (maybe beyond) it's just Zelda that interests me. I can't warrant paying £280 (and additional £50-£60) for the console and the game. It's coming on the WiiU, and it's cheaper also. No brainer really for me. Plus (i know it's the tech and all that), it's the price of the accessories that kills it for me. Don't get me wrong, i can easily afford a Switch. But i can't warrant purchase, at least for now.
Pestneb Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Just don't be surprised if those price drops never happen.... I remember with the Wii U I picked up 2 controllers for £25.. for some reason I convinced myself there would be a time when they may go for £20... that time never came and they seem to be selling more for full rrp now. Even if the price drops don't happen, I want to be sure of a certain amount of games before I go all in and commit to the console. I'm loyal to my gaming hardware, I've never sold a console, so I need to be sure of its worth before I buy it. It will have tons of revisions and a separate handheld release I bet. I've been thinking about other "family members" for the switch... Maybe an entry level sku, handheld only without the hardware for the docked switch (so capped at uncooled cpu and gpu) and no tv output, no dock, maybe even a slightly smaller screen? and a premium sku, home console variant without the screen and joycons, the dock hardware built in and possibly higher spec gpu/cpu that can be accessed (so enhanced like some of the *"*new*"* 3ds games, such as hyrule warriors...). Maybe the enhanced mode putting switch in the same ball park of power as the PS5 and the next xbox consoles. Plays regular switch games and "Enhanced" switch games? anyway, that'll be for 2019 and onwards...
markderoos Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I totaly understand the sentiment of the not buyers, I'm not happy with the launch line up at all. And the focus on reimagining/porting/updating some of their most succesful Wii U games to Switch still leaves me with a sour taste. Still I'm hyped for it, mainly due to the hardware concept and Snipperclips. It's not a lot if you look at it objectively but it swayed me over nonetheless.
bob Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Multiple 'sku' are a bad idea. The fewer options to confuse people, the better. Just look at Apple. There are already too many addons and accessories, and the thing isn't even out yet.
Grazza Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I almost did the same as you, H-o-T, but didn't, as I do actually want the Switch more than I wanted the Wii or Wii U at launch. With those, there was nothing I genuinely wanted to play (I got TP on GC). With the Switch, however, there is at least what is almost certainly the best version of Zelda. Whether that's worth the money is highly debateable, but I'm throwing caution to the wind this time.
Rummy Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I totaly understand the sentiment of the not buyers, I'm not happy with the launch line up at all. And the focus on reimagining/porting/updating some of their most succesful Wii U games to Switch still leaves me with a sour taste.Still I'm hyped for it, mainly due to the hardware concept and Snipperclips. It's not a lot if you look at it objectively but it swayed me over nonetheless. A bit like @Daft i'm thinking that the Switch money I'd spend could easily go towards a PSVR(which I tried briefly for the first time last sat, on a resi demo I think? Was an interesting experience!) - but I feel like despite it being more novel and more interesting that I currently want VR less that I'd want a Switch, albeit for similar reasons of it not really doing enough for me for the price at the moment etc. Thinking about the Switch cost in context of other things the money could buy keeps raising a strange perspective of contradiction in my mind - how do Nintendo manage to still do this to me!
Kav Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 I'd have gone for PSVR over Switch if it wasn't for my commute to and from work each day. The hybrid nature of the device was its biggest seller for me.
markderoos Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 VR intrigues me, years ago one of my friends was a early adaptor of the Occulus and got a dev kit. It was a great experience and had a huge wow factor, as was the first time I used motion control or even analogue 3D movement. They are all game changing in- and output methods. But the thing for me is, after the initial wow moment, I need good content to keep me interested in a platform. For me both PSVR and Switch have to prove they can deliver on that front because untill now I'm not convinced at all. Still put my money on the table for Switch at launch, but that's because every Generation, Nintendo at least produced several life time experiences for me. Blind faith and blind nostalgia I guess
drahkon Posted March 1, 2017 Author Posted March 1, 2017 I don't dare post this in the "actual" Switch thread because I would get slaughtered. Reviews for the console are coming in and they mostly say what I've been worried about. To me CNET summerized it perfectly: The Good The Nintendo Switch is a versatile hybrid game console that easily pivots between a big-screen TV and on-the-go portable. Its modular Joy-Con controllers are inventive. The entire hardware feels substantial and refined. Breath of the Wild is one of the best Nintendo launch games of all time. The Bad Besides Zelda, there are only a handful of games and no Virtual Console. Online features are currently a mystery. Screen feels small during tabletop sessions. Joy-Con layout is cramped and crowded, and the left one can have connection issues when wireless. The Bottom Line The Nintendo Switch is a solid piece of hardware that delivers an impressive gameplay experience in a small chassis. But a shallow roster of launch games beyond Zelda and a dearth of other features leaves the Switch feeling more like a blank slate of unfulfilled potential on day one. Seems like a great kit with a lot of potential (which coincidentally describes Nintendo as a whole ) but there's not enough to warrant a purchase (especially at that price) for non-hardcore Nintendo gamers, which - sadly - I've become part of. The sensible choice for me is wait for either a great second hand offer somewhere down the line or the inevitable redesign. Really happy to hear that the general perception is that the Switch is a nice console/portable. It has some issues which should've been ironed out but well, you can't always get what you want. I still think that the launch feels rushed.
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