Xbox One Console Discussion

[Ashley]

I think the Xbox brand is still strong (here at least) and I could see huge sales at Christmas when the new COD comes out. I believe that tended to sell better on the 360 (but I could be wrong), and if so I can see some 360 owners take the plunge this year.

[liger05]

Should of done this from the start.

 

Nobody cares about Kinect and people aint paying over £400 for consoles. Once retailers get this down to £329 I'll jump in.

 

I think the Xbox brand is still strong (here at least) and I could see huge sales at Christmas when the new COD comes out. I believe that tended to sell better on the 360 (but I could be wrong), and if so I can see some 360 owners take the plunge this year.

 

The continued good sales of the 360 and its software suggests there are still plenty 360 owners who have not upgraded to next gen just yet so with the right price and games you should see more and more migrate.

Edited May 13, 2014 by liger05

[flameboy]

I think the Xbox brand is still strong (here at least) and I could see huge sales at Christmas when the new COD comes out. I believe that tended to sell better on the 360 (but I could be wrong), and if so I can see some 360 owners take the plunge this year.

 

That's the thing it comes down to really....The Xbox and COD brands are so intertwined it's crucial. Xbox does seem bigger here...plus the price drop at $399.99 now actually makes it cheaper than PS4 at $449.

[Cube]

plus the price drop at $399.99 now actually makes it cheaper than PS4 at $449.

 

The PS4 is $399.99 in the US, and has been since launch.

[flameboy]

The PS4 is $399.99 in the US, and has been since launch.

 

I'm not in the US:

 

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-price-rises-in-canada/0129673

[Dcubed]

That's the thing it comes down to really....The Xbox and COD brands are so intertwined it's crucial. Xbox does seem bigger here...plus the price drop at $399.99 now actually makes it cheaper than PS4 at $449.

 

And yet both brands are in decline

 

Really though, if Destiny takes off like Activision are hoping for, MS will be in big (well, even bigger) trouble as Sony are getting in there early with exclusive deals and such to tie the brand into Playstation, like what MS did with COD.

 

And of course PS4 has the userbase advantage too, so that's even more incentive for Activision to favour them this time...

[flameboy]

And yet both brands are in decline

 

Really though, if Destiny takes off like Activision are hoping for, MS will be in big (well, even bigger) trouble as Sony are getting in there early with exclusive deals and such to tie the brand into Playstation, like what MS did with COD.

 

And of course PS4 has the userbase advantage too, so that's even more incentive for Activision to favour them this time...

 

True true lol. I do wonder though will this new COD get some next gen bump that Ghosts was never gonna have. Ghost perhaps never should have happened as it was clearly filler to keep on the yearly releases.

[Debug Mode]

Problem though now is that the Xbone has absolutely nothing to differentiate it from the PS4. It is literally just a weaker version of Sony's console, selling at the same price with a couple of exclusive games.

 

Let us not forget the POWER OF THE CLOUD the Xbox One will supposedly be using to its advantage later in the generation. Which Sony can probably easily counter with their own streaming technology acquisitions.

[Dog-amoto]

Ghost perhaps never should have happened as it was clearly filler to keep on the yearly releases.

 

What a silly statement - how could you forget...?

 

 

[flameboy]

What a silly statement - how could you forget...?

 

 

FUCK RILEY! (that was his name right?)

[Dog-amoto]

FUCK RILEY! (that was his name right?)

 

I've no idea. I just remember the hubbub about him

[Charlie]

Exclusive Discounts. Deals with Gold will also launch for Xbox One in June, delivering discounts for great games each month, with significant savings for Xbox Live Gold members. The first titles offered in June will include “Forza Motorsport 5,” “Ryse: Son of Rome,” and a few other surprises. In the coming months, we will offer significant savings of up to 50 – 75 percent off certain titles.

 

This is also great news although they've done similar offers before. I'm hoping that Forza will be down to £20. I probably wouldn't buy a digital copy for £25+ but at £20 it's a steal.

[S.C.G]

Until June 6th I can get the Xbox One Titanfall bundle for £299 (staff exclusive discount code plus card discount) but I'm still not sure if I want one even at that price.

 

I just think I'm happy enough with owning PS4/Wii U and hopefully not having to buy another home console for at least three or four years. : peace:

 

Then again... £299... *slaps self* No! must resist... urge to spend... needlessly.

[flameboy]

Until June 6th I can get the Xbox One Titanfall bundle for £299 (staff exclusive discount code plus card discount) but I'm still not sure if I want one even at that price.

 

I just think I'm happy enough with owning PS4/Wii U and hopefully not having to buy another home console for at least three or four years. : peace:

 

Then again... £299... *slaps self* No! must resist... urge to spend... needlessly.

 

BUY BUY BUY.

[S.C.G]

BUY BUY BUY.

 

But I'd only be buying it for Peggle 2!

 

I think I'd rather save myself some money.

[Mandalore]

But I'd only be buying it for Peggle 2!

 

Isn't it out on 360 now? (if you've got a 360 that is)

 

Removing the Kinect has made the console slightly more appealing, I can see myself getting one in the future when it's cheaper if they bring out the games I want.

[S.C.G]

Isn't it out on 360 now? (if you've got a 360 that is)

 

 

I was completely unaware of this!

 

All I knew was that it had been Xbox One exclusive for months but I didn't know that it had finally been released on the 360 as well now.

 

Might be time to switch my 360 on for the first time in ages! : peace:

 

Thanks btw.

[flameboy]

Downloaded Super Time Force before work, cannot wait to get home and play it!

[Cookyman]

Hmmm didn't know what thread to put this under as it mentions 4 consoles but this has got to be the greatest spin (bullshit) ever.

 

 

 

Microsoft Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Mehdi explains why the PS4 has outsold the Xbox One so far, and also claims that Xbox 360 users have "less need" to upgrade to next-gen since they're more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3.

 

Quick show of hands, who among you bought both a PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 before the current-gen (PS4 and Xbox One) started? Were you more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3? Apparently, people with an Xbox 360 are more satisfied with their purchase than those who bought a PS3 -- at least according to Microsoft Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Medhi. Speaking to Forbes regarding the Xbox One's recent Kinect-less SKU, Medhi was asked about the PS4's sales gap over the Xbox One, and if the exec thinks this can be attributed to the PS4 costing less. Medhi claims it's mostly due to the PS4 being more available worldwide, and because Xbox 360 users are more satisfied with their consoles, so they feel less of a need to upgrade.

 

 

It's hard to really assess the gap in sales. They're in many more markets right now than we are. They're in 40+ markets, we're in 13. People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360. We could point to any number of things. That said, we've heard from a lot of our Xbox fans who say, "Hey look, I want an Xbox One, but at $499, I probably have to wait a little while before I can afford to get one." I do think we're going to get people now who move over, and then buy the Kinect later. So I do think the [price point] broadens the appeal and hopefully brings more people to Xbox One sooner.

 

Elsewhere in the interview, Medhi was also asked what he thought of Kinect moving forward, and whether it lived up to its potential.

 

 

The way I look at it is that you should take a five year vision. I think in five years, we will laugh at any computing device you can't walk up to and talk to. Voice is going to be there for all devices. We're a pioneer with Kinect in the living room. And it's not just voice, and it's voice and biometric ID. The ability to pioneer that, and with the success we've had so far with five million people, it's remarkable. We feel great about it. And look, we're going to learn a lot, and our partners are going to learn a lot, and our customers are going to learn a lot, and we're going to continue to shape it. But I think we're breaking a lot of new ground and we're delighted with the progress.

 

In related Xbox One news, just the other day, Medhi commented that the Xbox One could potentially be more powerful without the Kinect, since the processing power the peripheral needed can be diverted towards games instead. Also of note, if you're one of the many that bought an Xbox One at launch, don't expect any freebies from Microsoft for being a loyal customer anytime soon.

 

For those who own both a PS3 and Xbox 360, which console are you more satisfied with? And do you agree with Medhi's explanation that the reason the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One is due to it being released in more markets?

 

So it's the 360's fault eh? - fuck off!

 

But what do you all think?

[S.C.G]

Hmmm didn't know what thread to put this under as it mentions 4 consoles but this has got to be the greatest spin (bullshit) ever.

 

So it's the 360's fault eh? - fuck off!

 

But what do you all think?

 

I think it's all a load of rubbish personally.

 

Last generation I ended up buying all three consoles, firstly the Xbox 360 because I had bought an original Xbox but that was only later on in the previous generation as I had a Gamecube from day 1 then bought an Xbox years later when it was £100 with Outrun 2, the first Xbox was a decent(ish) machine which played a select few titles which I enjoyed - mainly Sega titles - so it stood to reason that the 360 would be worth owning because it was essentially a refined Xbox but with a lot more power and a decent online presence from day one which the first Xbox lacked for me hence I never bothered with the online at the time.

 

Then the Wii came out just as the 360 was starting to become 'samey' and while there were plenty of decent titles to be had, inbetween the release schedule gaps that Nintendo so 'kindly' provided I would find myself looking elsewhere to play even more games, I'd always kept my eye on the PS3 but it wasn't until Uncharted came out that I actually willingly went and bought one.

 

Since then my main 'multiformat' console was the 360 for all of those games plus the limited exclusives, whereas my Wii and PS3 were for platform exclusive games only... this has served me well for some time but now I'm in the situation of owning both a Wii U plus a PS4 but I also have a stack of 360 games to play so it stands to reason that there is very little point in buying an XBone for me.

 

Xbox live gold I no longer require being that I have PS+ which more than fulfils my gaming needs as it covers me across three different Playstation consoles - PS3/PSV/PS4 - supplying me with more games than I will realistically play in addition to giving me access to all online aspects with no restrictions.

 

Gaming on a brand new Microsoft machine which would do very much the same as my PS4 - except with an interface that I dislike along with very few exclusives that I'd want - just doesn't appeal to me that much, in my eyes they have only had one absolutely stellar machine which was the 360 but even that was plagued with hardware issues for many years, when it worked though... fantastic machine.

 

I'm just more than happy with my PS4 and Wii U this generation... it's that simple. : peace:

[Kaepora_Gaebora]

 

 

So it's the 360's fault eh? - fuck off!

 

But what do you all think?

 

Well as has often been said, certainly with Titanfall in mind, there has always been a fear that 360 sales could cannabalise One, and that seems fairly true.

 

Purely annecdotally, but whenever I browse the UK games sales chart 360 software sales are always pretty high up, Minecraft sells a ton, so people are clearly still happy with their 360's at the moment, so maybe he has a point!

[Sheikah]

Well as has often been said, certainly with Titanfall in mind, there has always been a fear that 360 sales could cannabalise One, and that seems fairly true.

 

Purely annecdotally, but whenever I browse the UK games sales chart 360 software sales are always pretty high up, Minecraft sells a ton, so people are clearly still happy with their 360's at the moment, so maybe he has a point!

 

To be honest, both PS4 and X1 have about the same going for them games-wise at the moment. In truth, it's surprising so many have upgraded already, purely because the games aren't all there yet. If we had to guess, I'd say the X1 is selling pretty well, just the PS4 happens to be storming it so there appears to be a fairly large difference. PS4 got positioned really well in terms of initial price, marketing, power and support this gen, and people were hungry for the next gen.

[Charlie]

I actually think he's right but that is definitely not a good thing for Microsoft - they haven't done enough with the One to convince their own users to upgrade and that needs to be sorted out.

 

Things like having the top titles (new COD, Battlefield and Titanfall for example) come out on the 360 is a reason why people haven't upgraded yet. I imagine towards the end of this year when Destiny, the next generation of COD/Battlefield, new Halo come out you'll see more people upgrade.

[Debug Mode]

Where do MS go from here?

 

This is precisely why Microsoft announced this so far in advance and gave it a launch date that's beyond their E3 conference. There's no way they've decided to do this without deciding a plan of action to differentiate their product in some way to give them some form of competitive advantage.

 

I'm intrigued to hear what it is, and it's kind of bumped up my excitement for their conference. I doubt they'll try to play too heavily into the power of the cloud card due to the always-online nature it would require, but there's got to be something planned. Sunset Overdrive might be the beginning of what could be a very expensive barrage of exclusives.

[Cookyman]

Where do MS go from here?

 

Is it down to the lake I fear?