Cube Posted August 10, 2013 Author Posted August 10, 2013 Some people actually think the HDMI cable is worth around £60 because it does 4K. Clever marketing, as all cheap 1.4b cables support 4K.
Ashley Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 It is a Lightning-in-a-bottle phrasing that really grabs the Retinas of those who don't know, and iT reminds me of another company...
Ashley Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Apparently you don't need to plug in Kinect any more, but you still have to buy it: http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-wont-actually-need-kinect-plugged-in-microso-1113142909
Jimbob Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Too many reversals for me, this now confirms to me (and anyone unsure) that Microsoft are desperate now.
bryanee Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 You cant stop the 180 baby. But why the fuck are we paying for something we don't even need anymore? What a god damn mess.
Cube Posted August 12, 2013 Author Posted August 12, 2013 Apparently you don't need to plug in Kinect any more, but you still have to buy it: http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-wont-actually-need-kinect-plugged-in-microso-1113142909 That's the best news out of all the 180s. I'll still have to wait to see how much Kinect is integrated into exclusive games (if they even announce some good exclusive games, that is).
Jimbob Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 It's a good move to remove the Kinect is needed to be connected, and from the comments i've read on various gaming sites tonight people are happy.
Murr Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Would be happier if I didn't have to pay £100 Extra for something that now doesn't appear to be compulsory with console. Mark up some Kinnectless Bundles at PS4 price and you'd have my attention Microsoft.
Shorty Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Too many reversals for me, this now confirms to me (and anyone unsure) that Microsoft are desperate now. You and everyone nearly everyone else here: > Complains about an Xbox One feature > Complains when Xbox One feature changes. Edited August 13, 2013 by Shorty
Cube Posted August 13, 2013 Author Posted August 13, 2013 I have no problem with Xbox changing stuff.
Dcubed Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Are we up to Xbox 1080 yet? That being said, I really doubt that they'll drop the Kinect from the base package. They still clearly want it to be included in every box so that they can be sure that everyone who owns the console has one. It's basically their Wii U Gamepad. The console can function without it, but 1st party titles will be built around it - either for core functions, like in Kinect Sports Rivals, or for ancillary functions like in Dead Rising 3. Likewise, all of their non-game functionality is still built around Kinect first and foremost. Edited August 13, 2013 by Dcubed
Daft Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 My biggest problem with Xbox is still the "value" proposition of Xbox Live Gold. I actually think Kinect is pretty brilliant (now that it's much more accurate and comes packaged with the console), Microsoft really need to stick by their guns. I almost think releasing Kinect for the 360 has massively tainted it as a device for the Xbox One. I might pick one up on launch, but we'll see. I really resent paying for Xbox Live.
Ramar Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 You and everyone nearly everyone else here: > Complains about an Xbox One feature > Complains when Xbox One feature changes. It just goes to show how flawed their ideas were. I didn't agree with a lot of the Xbox One's features when they were announced. However, if Microsoft stuck to their vision and believed the shit they were spewing then they deserve some respect. Back-pedalling the way they are now is more than embarrassing and I'd imagine rather costly.
Charlie Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Release a bundle without the Kinect and I'd be very tempted to get one. As it stands I can't justify paying for a new console to only play Call of Duty. As Ghosts is coming out on the 360 MS have pretty much a year after launch to release a bundle like this. Quite hopefuly.
Ashley Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 My biggest problem with Xbox is still the "value" proposition of Xbox Live Gold. I actually think Kinect is pretty brilliant (now that it's much more accurate and comes packaged with the console), Microsoft really need to stick by their guns. I almost think releasing Kinect for the 360 has massively tainted it as a device for the Xbox One. I might pick one up on launch, but we'll see. I really resent paying for Xbox Live. Wouldn't your PS4 cover the paywalled aspects of the One and thus no need for Live (other than online games, Netflix and DVR I can't recall what is locked behind Live, so forgive me if I'm missing something)
Jimbob Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 They've said they are still including the Kinect/NSA Spyware device with each console. It wouldn't surprise me if they released one without Kinect bundled in, as they've now included the headset which people wanted. But MS have invested heavily in Kinect, so i don't expect a Kinect-free bundle anytime soon. Plus without one, may annoy the publishers.
Sheikah Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 You and everyone nearly everyone else here: > Complains about an Xbox One feature > Complains when Xbox One feature changes. Well of course. The features were terrible and unwanted, and recalling them is embarrassing for them and makes them seem like they never really had a clue. Obviously the correct thing would have been to never have introduced those features in the first place. Then nobody would have complained!
MindFreak Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/87284/Xbox+One+delayed+until+2014%3F/ Ouch.
Shorty Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Well of course. The features were terrible and unwanted, and recalling them is embarrassing for them and makes them seem like they never really had a clue. Obviously the correct thing would have been to never have introduced those features in the first place. Then nobody would have complained! But you can be annoyed that the decisions were made or that they were reverted. Time travel not being an option here, you shouldn't be complaining about something and then later saying they should've stuck to their guns and kept the aspect you didn't like!
Hero-of-Time Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/87284/Xbox+One+delayed+until+2014%3F/ Ouch. It's already been dismissed. EDIT: Just out of curiosity, how many people on here are actually getting the One come launch day? Anyone?
MindFreak Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Dismissed? Alright that's good. I'm not getting it on launch day (only if it turns out that it's backwards compatible) as I have a shitload of 360-games, I need to play before.
Daft Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 It's already been dismissed. EDIT: Just out of curiosity, how many people on here are actually getting the One come launch day? Anyone? I want to get one...but I've having real trouble convincing myself. I'll almost certainly not pre-order it, though.
Sheikah Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 But you can be annoyed that the decisions were made or that they were reverted. Time travel not being an option here, you shouldn't be complaining about something and then later saying they should've stuck to their guns and kept the aspect you didn't like! No one is saying that. People were complaining about the features, but also about the company itself for being out of touch to the extent they were pretty much forced to U-turn, even if it ultimately will result in a better console. They are not mutually exclusive complaints. Like I said, the only way to avoid either series of complaints is to never have brought in features people never wanted in the first place. The criticism is entirely self-perpetuated.
Shorty Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Personally I don't think their decisions were out of touch in the first place. I still feel like they were trying to take gaming somewhere new, instead of sticking with the same thing we had last year but more powerful hardware. There were some big gleaming errors in their delivery and in the DRM (24 hour connection stands out), but not with their overall ideas. First, they talked about TV forever, then all their DRM details came out with zero focus on the positives. They should've never mentioned TV, and instead set people up to accept the DRM by selling the features that required it first. Lets look at an example similar to Xbox's desire to have your games library everywhere: Spotify. Lets say I put Spotify on my PC, and I get a Spotify Premium service, that gives me mobile access. Now I can listen to my music and my playlists on the go. Amazing! All the songs I want, playlists, radio stations, albums, all in my pocket all the time. I can play this music to anyone. I can even sync the songs on my phone so that they're available to play when I don't have an internet connection. Now hold up. If I can play songs without an internet connection, how does my phone know that I still have an active premium connection? Well it can only stay offline for a certain number of days, then it needs to go online to check my subscription still exists. Xbox had something similar, but they didn't announce it properly, and the DRM was too restrictive. They could've ignored TV and made sure that the first thing people heard was along the lines of: "Xbox One! With cloud gaming features, play your games anywhere! Take your whole library to a friend's house, take advantage of great summer offers, allow your family to try out your games from anywhere in the world, have your games instantly updated and added to using cloud features, while you're playing!" The DRM stuff should just have been discovered in the vein of "the restrictions that made these great new things possible". Instead, the first anyone heard about Xbox One were "TV, TV, TV, SPORTS!" jokes and then "oh shit, have you heard, the Xbox one doesn't let you sell your games!"
Hero-of-Time Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/87284/Xbox+One+delayed+until+2014%3F/ Ouch. It seems there may some truth to this rumour after all. Apparently CVG dismissed the rumour for the UK but some other European countries may be set to miss out on the One this year. Be a bit nuts if any of this turns out to be true.
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