PlayStation 4 Console Discussion

[drahkon]

Bought Yoku's Island Express and Super Cloudbuilt because I haven't finished neither Guacamelee 2 nor Celeste and I need more games... Ehem.

Anyways, Super Cloudbuilt is absolutely insane. Just watch the trailer:

I've seen a speed run of Cloudbuilt (apparently it's different to the Super version) at SDGQ this year. Looked amazing. Today I was browsing a sale on the PSN store and I've seen the PS4 version. I was a little worried that without mouse and keyboard the controls would be a little wonky but they work incredibly well. Very impressive.

Played a couple of levels and it's such a joy to play. Fast paced (if you want it to be), purely skill-based platforming action with a little shooting involved. There are also challenges which make you approach levels differently, e.g. you can't use your weapon and in turn can't open certain doors so you have to find a different way. Maximizing the efficiency of your moveset is key.

Also put some minutes into Yoku's Island Express. What a lovely game. Yoku is freaking adorable.

The combination of metroidvania and pinball is genius. Can't wait to put more time into it.

 

Well...after several games that left me dissatisfied I'm now in a dilemma: I have bought too many games recently that I enjoy  Damn sales...
Think I'll finish Guacamelee 2 first, as I've made the most progress with it.

Edited September 2, 2018 by drahkon

[drahkon]

Made some progress with Guacamelee 2 and it may end up on my list of fuck-off-with-that-shit-games.

Example:

1. enter a room; it's a "platforming puzzle" (which is usually handled very well; you observe the room, make a plan and can complete it on your first attempt)
2. bomb enemies spawn (they explode after a short time and you have to restart that room; no matter where you are...)
3. you have to follow a trail of spawning bomb enemies; kill one --> two more spawn --> get to them very quickly --> kill them --> more spawn --> ...
4. HERE'S THE FUCKING DEAL BREAKER: You don't know where they spawn at first and in order to get to them you must've perfectly executed your moves while killing the previous enemies; oh, you didn't? tough luck...can't reach the new ones and you fall down to your death; restart the room

There's almost no chance for you to finish these rooms first try as you have to be 100% perfect from the get go. Memorizing the patterns is key and this is not difficult. It's just a matter of trial and error. Stupid gameplay mechanic. 

Made me turn off the game just now.

This is why I love Celeste. Every piece of the "platforming puzzles" are available to take in. Plan your moves, execute them and boom, there you go: Success (yeah, executing the moves is fucking difficult in this game but hey, I take that over memorizing shit).

Rant over.

[Ganepark32]

20 hours ago, drahkon said:

Made some progress with Guacamelee 2 and it may end up on my list of fuck-off-with-that-shit-games.

Example:

1. enter a room; it's a "platforming puzzle" (which is usually handled very well; you observe the room, make a plan and can complete it on your first attempt)
2. bomb enemies spawn (they explode after a short time and you have to restart that room; no matter where you are...)
3. you have to follow a trail of spawning bomb enemies; kill one --> two more spawn --> get to them very quickly --> kill them --> more spawn --> ...
4. HERE'S THE FUCKING DEAL BREAKER: You don't know where they spawn at first and in order to get to them you must've perfectly executed your moves while killing the previous enemies; oh, you didn't? tough luck...can't reach the new ones and you fall down to your death; restart the room

There's almost no chance for you to finish these rooms first try as you have to be 100% perfect from the get go. Memorizing the patterns is key and this is not difficult. It's just a matter of trial and error. Stupid gameplay mechanic. 

Made me turn off the game just now.

This is why I love Celeste. Every piece of the "platforming puzzles" are available to take in. Plan your moves, execute them and boom, there you go: Success (yeah, executing the moves is fucking difficult in this game but hey, I take that over memorizing shit).

Rant over.

I really disliked this sections in Guacamelee 2 as well. They could simply have had it that it was normal enemies without the timer to kill them, just give them the shield that needs to be hit with the correct move to keep you moving through the sections. It just made things more fiddly than they should have been. It's partly why I'm not bothered for going for 100% because of those and some of the pollo ones that are hidden away (particularly the last bit pollo dungeon you need to do to get to that completion). It's a shame as the rest is great, they just needed to dial those sections back a bit.

Glad to see you're enjoying Celeste though. Loved every second of it, though I need to go back and grab the strawberries and tapes I'm missing. So far, it's my favourite game of the year.

You must be set for the rest of the year for indie games at this point though with all these purchases recently 

[drahkon]

9 minutes ago, Ganepark32 said:

It's partly why I'm not bothered for going for 100% because of those

Same here. It's a shame, though, as the rest of the game is awesome, as you said.

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You must be set for the rest of the year for indie games at this point though with all these purchases recently 

Yeah...but my stupid brain probably won't think that when the next sale comes around.  

Well...there's actually only Dead Cells I want right now. Will get it once it's down to 15€.

[Ganepark32]

18 hours ago, drahkon said:

Same here. It's a shame, though, as the rest of the game is awesome, as you said.

Yeah...but my stupid brain probably won't think that when the next sale comes around.  

Well...there's actually only Dead Cells I want right now. Will get it once it's down to 15€.

Haha, yeah I'm in the same boat. There's a few things in the sale currently that I've been eyeing up, along with recent indie releases that are just calling out to me to be bought and played at some point. Dead Cells is certainly one of them; even though I said I wouldn't pick it up I'm getting more tempted. Same with things like Sunless Sea and Chasm. There's also the recently released Planet Alpha and The Gardens Between, which is out on the 20th. I've already got plenty to play yet I know I'll probably end up picking some of them up in the coming week cause I'm a sucker like that. September isn't being kind on the wallet so far.

[Ashley]

Whenever I play Spider-Man my PS4 sounds like it's about to take off. Should I be concerned?

[bob]

Whenever I play Spider-Man my PS4 sounds like it's about to take off. Should I be concerned?

Maybe that's just the hype train?

[S.C.G]

15 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Whenever I play Spider-Man my PS4 sounds like it's about to take off. Should I be concerned?

My PS4 seemed to get to that stage and then during the height of Summer when playing Monster Hunter World I thought that I heard a loud "beep" while playing.

Which then prompted me to open it up and clean the console out, this is what I posted in the Spider-Man thread...

On 04/09/2018 at 5:07 PM, S.C.G said:

I don't know how much of a difference there will be between playing on an original PS4 and a PS4 Pro but I'm still on my original console...

Just dusted it inside and out so it's ready to go - there actually wasn't that much dust in it as it happens - but better to be on the safe side.

Obviously the amount of dust inside each PS4 will vary, but it seems like a good idea to at least take the top of the casing off and dust the inside and the fan carefully.

When I did it, I didn't spray compressed air in it or anything like that as I didn't want to chance it and it didn't seem too dusty.

I did take some pictures when I perfomed the cleaning proceedure and I'm looking at doing the same with other consoles soon during my time off.

If it's of interest to you and others then I was considering making a console cleaning and repair thread in the Retro section as that might benefit our community.

For what it's worth, my PS4 does seem at least a bit quieter after the cleaning and I've made a new stand for it to improve the ventilation even further.

Edited September 9, 2018 by S.C.G

[Ashley]

I hadn't thought of that cheers. Having a look as I've got an original PS4 I'll need a special screwdriver I don't have. Cleaned the dust around the edges for now, hopefully that'll help. 

The screen keeps dimming as well, hoping it's related!

[Ike]

2 hours ago, Ashley said:

I hadn't thought of that cheers. Having a look as I've got an original PS4 I'll need a special screwdriver I don't have. Cleaned the dust around the edges for now, hopefully that'll help. 

The screen keeps dimming as well, hoping it's related!

I've read reapplying the thermal paste on the CPU helps, apparently the factory job is quite bad sometimes. YMMV but if you're opening your console then it might be worth a shot.

[Shorty]

On 9/9/2018 at 8:03 PM, Ashley said:

I hadn't thought of that cheers. Having a look as I've got an original PS4 I'll need a special screwdriver I don't have. Cleaned the dust around the edges for now, hopefully that'll help. 

The screen keeps dimming as well, hoping it's related!

Are you on a Pro? My PS4 fans also go kinda crazy playing any HDR game to be honest. I have not considered cleaning it, I'm just chalking it up to the intensive processes. I just put headphones on

Might just try swapping the hdmi cable to see if the dimming problem goes away?

[Daft]

I used compressed air to clear out my Pro when I got God of War, it sounded distressed. Afterward it would still rev up occasionally (usually during cutscenes) but it's so much quieter now.

[bob]

Whenever my PS4 is being noisey, I just make a similar noise at it, but louder. Eventually, it gets embarrassed at my superior fan noises, and stops.

[Jimbob]

Had an email through from PayPal saying a refund was issued for £15.99 from Sony Computer Entertainment (i purchased the Spider-Man DLC content on Friday).  Had a check on PayPal, and a refund was issued to me.  So, have just got off the phone from PlayStation support who said it's weird why this has happened, they never ruled out it's their issue or PayPal's issue.  But i might get a banned account, which will be lifted as this isn't a fault of my own.

[Ashley]

4 hours ago, Shorty said:

Are you on a Pro? My PS4 fans also go kinda crazy playing any HDR game to be honest. I have not considered cleaning it, I'm just chalking it up to the intensive processes. I just put headphones on

Might just try swapping the hdmi cable to see if the dimming problem goes away?

Nah an original.  I got it with Destiny which was I think...9 months into it?

Not tried swapping the HDMI cable, will give that a try at some point cheers.

3 hours ago, Daft said:

I used compressed air to clear out my Pro when I got God of War, it sounded distressed. Afterward it would still rev up occasionally (usually during cutscenes) but it's so much quieter now.

Shame I can't easily steal this now!

Hopefully just cleaning around the edges (a lot of dust did come out) will have done it, but not used my PS4 since.

[Ganepark32]

Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition is set to release on PS4 on September 25th. Includes all 4 expansions that have been released so far and comes with a 20% discount for pre-ordering (making it £9.27, down from £11.59).

Not sure I'll triple dip for it, even though it is a fantastic game, but great news for anyone who hasn't played it on PC or on Switch yet.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Ganepark32

[Julius]

Not too surprising, given that Kaz Hirai has mentioned wanting something to this effect in place before he steps down from Sony. 

[Julius]

PlayStation’s Tokyo Game Show Lineup has been revealed (note that times below are JST, and therefore BST+8): 

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■ Lineup

All titles are sorted alphabetically by publisher.

PlayStation VR

• Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown (Bandai Namco) – Playable, Trailer
• Beat Saber (Beat Games) – Playable, Trailer
• Tetris Effect (Enhance Games) – Playable, Trailer
• Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories (Granzella) – Playable, Trailer
• Space Channel 5 VR: Kinda Funky News Flash! (G-rounding, Inc.) – Playable, Trailer
• Astro Bot: Rescue Mission (SIE) – Playable, Trailer
• Deracine (SIE) – Playable, Trailer
• Everybody’s Golf VR (SIE) – Playable, Trailer
• Kill-X (SIE) – Trailer
• Theater Room VR (SIE) – Playable
• Ryan Marks: Revenge Mission (SIE) – Playable, Trailer
• Final Assault (Smilegate Entertainment / Phase Lock Interactive) – Playable, Trailer
• Focus on You (Smilegate Entertainment) – Trailer
• Kingdom Hearts: VR Experience (Square Enix) – Trailer
• Dark Eclipse (Sunsoft) – Playable, Trailer

PlayStation 4

• Caravan Stories (Aiming) – Trailer
• Kill la Kill the Game: IF (Arc System Work) – Trailer
• Catherine: Full Body (Atlus) – Playable, Trailer (also on PS Vita)
• Utawarerumono Zan (Aquaplus) – Trailer
• Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown (Bandai Namco) – Playable, Trailer
• Digimon Survive (Bandai Namco) – Trailer
• God Eater 3 (Bandai Namco) – Playable, Trailer
• Jump Force (Bandai Namco) – Playable, Trailer
• One Piece: World Seeker (Bandai Namco) – Playable, Trailer
• Soulcalibur VI (Bandai Namco) – Trailer
• Tokyo Ghoul: re Call to Exist (Bandai Namco) – Trailer
• Fallout 76 (Bethesda Softworks) – Trailer
• Capcom Beat ‘Em Up Collection (Capcom) – Trailer
• Devil May Cry 5 (Capcom) – Playable, Trailer
• Mega Man 11 (Capcom) – Trailer
• Onimusha: Warlords (Capcom) – Trailer
• Resident Evil 2 (Capcom) – Playable, Trailer
• Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (Capcom) – Trailer
• Varnir of the Dragon Star: Ecdysis of the Dragon (Compile Heart) – Trailer
• Project Awakening (Cygames) – Trailer
• Earth Defense Force: Iron Rain (D3 Publisher) – Playable, Trailer
• Anthem (Electronic Arts) – Trailer
• Battlefield V (Electronic Arts) – Trailer
• FIFA 19 (Electronic Arts) – Playable, Trailer
• Fortnite (Epic Games) – Playable, Trailer
• Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (From Software) – Playable, Trailer
• Crystar (FuRyu) – Trailer
• Dogfighter: World War 2 (Iggymob) – Trailer
• Gungrave G.O.R.E. (Iggymob) – Trailer
• LoveR (Kadokawa Games) – Trailer
• Root Letter: Last Answer (Kadokawa Games) – Trailer (also on PS Vita)
• RPG Maker MV (Kadokawa Games) – Trailer
• Dead or Alive 6 (Koei Tecmo) – Playable, Trailer
• Nelke & the Legendary Alchemists: Ateliers of the New World (Koei Tecmo) – Trailer
• Warriors Orochi 4 (Koei Tecmo) – Playable, Trailer
• Knives Out (NetEase Games) – Trailer
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV ~The End of Saga~ (Nihon Falcom) – Trailer
• Red Dead Redemption 2 (Rockstar Games) – Trailer
• Project Judge (Sega) – Playable, Trailer
• Shenmue I & II (Sega) – Trailer
• Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII (SIE) – Playable, Trailer
• Concrete Genie (SIE) – Trailer
• Days Gone (SIE) – Playable, Trailer
• Death Stranding (SIE) – Trailer
• Dreams (SIE) – Trailer
• Ghost of Tsushima (SIE) – Trailer
• Monkey King: Hero is Back (SIE) – Trailer
• Samurai Shodown (SNK) – Trailer
• Conception Plus: Ore no Kodomo wo Undekure! (Spike Chunsoft) – Trailer
• Dragon Quest Builders 2 (Square Enix) – Playable, Trailer
• Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Remastered (Square Enix) – Trailer
• Just Cause 4 (Square Enix) – Trailer
• Kingdom Hearts III (Square Enix) – Playable, Trailer
• The Last Remnant Remastered (Square Enix) – Trailer
• Left Alive (Square Enix) – Trailer
• Million Arthur: Arcana Blood (Square Enix) – Trailer
• World of Final Fantasy Maxima (Square Enix) – Trailer
• Assassin’s Creed Odyssey (Ubisoft) – Trailer
• The Division 2 (Ubisoft) – Trailer
• Skull & Bones (Ubisoft) – Trailer
• Deemo Reborn (Unties) – Trailer
• Hitman 2 (Warner Bros. Japan) – Trailer

■ Stage Schedule

September 20 (YouTube)

• 11:00 to 12:00 – Dreams – Using the game creation tool Dreams, Media Molecule staff creates an original game for ths “play on the spot” game creative live stage. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, and guests Abbie Heppe (Media Molecule community manager), Kei Urano (SIE Japan Studio localization producer), and Natsuna Watanabe.
• 12:40 to 13:40 – PlayStation Network – A girls talk featuring guests Shiina Natsukawa and Asaka with Hatsune Matsushima. The theme is “Our PlayStation Network Life.” At the end, Asaka will perform a PlayStation Video Anime Special Medley Concert. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, and guests Shiina Natsukawa and Asaka.
• 14:20 to 15:20 – Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII – A specialist introduction to Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII by pro gamers. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, live streamer k4sen, and commentators Noriaki Suzuki and four pro gamers.
• 16:00 to 16:40 – Days Gone – An introduction of the open-world survival action game Days Gone through gameplay with the developers, who have come to Japan from America. Featuring MC Shuu Maruyama, and guests Christopher Reese (Bend Studio studio director), John Gavin (Bend Studio creative director), Jeff Ross (Bend Studio game director, and Kei Urano (SIE Japan Studio localization producer).

September 22

• 11:00 to 11:40 – Resident Evil 2 – An overview of the highlights of the survival horror remake Resident Evil 2. Featuring MC Shuu Maruyama, and guests Yoshiaki Hirabayashi (Capcom producer) and Tsuyoshi Kanda (Capcom producer).
• 12:00 to 13:00 – e-Sports X Blue Stage Live Relay: Fortnite – An online battle from the PlayStation stage on the e-Sports X Blue stage. Which pro players will survive in this 100-player battle royale? Featuring MC Shuu Maruyama.
• 13:40 to 14:20 – God Eater 3 – An introduction to God Eater 3, the first numbered title in the God Eater series in over five years. Featuring MC Shuu Maruyama, and guests Yusuke Tomizawa (Bandai Namco Entertainment IP general producer), Yuuya Tomiyama (Bandai Namco Entertainment producer), Hiroshi Yoshimura (Bandai Namco Studio general director), Ittetsu Suzuki (Marvelous development director), and Shun’ichi Toki (Zeke Pennywort voice actor).
• 15:00 to 16:00 – e-Sports X Blue Stage Live Relay: Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII – A digest of the Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII Competition grand finals on the e-Sports X Blue Stage. Featuring MC Shuu Maruyama, guest Hatsune Matsushima, and four winning teams.
• 16:10 to 16:50 – Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice – An introduction to the upcoming action adventure game from From Software, including its thrilling weapons and various actions enabled by the protagonist’s prosthetic ninja arm. Featuring MC Shuu Maruyama, and guests Yasuhiro Kitao (From Software) and Robert Conkey (Activision).

September 23

• 11:00 to 11:40 – Project Judge – Special demo gameplay of Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio’s new legal suspense game Project Judge from the PlayStation booth, as well as an introduction to the game’s highly dramatic nature and cast. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, and guests Toshihiro Nagoshi (Sega Games general director) and Kazuki Hosokawa (Sega Games producer).
• 12:00 to 12:40 – Warriors Orochi 4 – Gameplay with the voice actors behind new character Athena together with Pile for the latest entry in the Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors series crossover game. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, and guests Masaki Furusawa (Koei Tecmo Games producer), Suzuko Mimori, and Pile.
• 13:00 to 13:40 – Kingdom Hearts III – An introduction to the world of Kingdom Hearts III, in which Toy Story, Big Hero 6, Frozen, and more appears as new worlds. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, and guests Tai Yasue (Square Enix co-director) and Kanata Hongou.
• 14:00 to 14:50 – Let’s Play SIE WWS Titles with Shuhei Yoshida! – Gameplay and discussion with Shuhei Yoshida and development staff with hard to come by information and more. Featuring MC Hatsune Matsushima, reporter Shuu Maruyama, and guests Shuhei Yoshida (SIE Worldwide Studios) and the staff of Ghost of Tsushima, Deracine, and Everybody’s Golf VR.
• 15:30 to 16:40 – Death Stranding – Hideo Kojima returns to Tokyo Game Show after two years. Furthermore, he has come with the Japanese cast of Death Stranding. An introduction to Death Stranding, character casting details, behind the scenes stories, and then after that… this will be a event loaded with information you can only hear at Tokyo Game Show. Featuring MC Yuki Iwai (Haraichi), guests Hideo Kojima, Akio Ootsuka, Kikuko Inoue, Kenjiro Tsuda, Satoshi Mikami, and Nana Mizuki.

That 70 minute slot for Death Stranding to bring an end to their presence at the show on the 23rd is obviously the thing that catches the eye most. “And then after that...” — are we about to get our first gameplay demonstration? 

Edited September 18, 2018 by Julius Caesar

[Hero-of-Time]

PS Now changing for the better!

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We are excited to announce that starting today, you will be able to stream as well as download PlayStation Now games to your PS4 system so that you can play both locally and offline, all with a single subscription. Almost all PS4 games in the service, including Bloodborne, God of War 3 Remastered, NBA 2K16, Payday 2 Crimewave Edition and Until Dawn, will be available for download, in addition to the PS Now lineup of classic PS2 games remastered for PS4.

 

[drahkon]

No PS3 games, though?

This is the one thing that could make me buy a subscription.

[Hero-of-Time]

Just now, drahkon said:

No PS3 games, though?

This is the one thing that could make me buy a subscription.

Not yet but if they can get those up and running then it will be amazing. As it stands, it's essentially a great way to rent and play PS4 games.

[drahkon]

5 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Not yet but if they can get those up and running then it will be amazing.

Not holding my breath for that on PS4. Maybe something for PS5.

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 As it stands, it's essentially a great way to rent and play PS4 games.

Indeed.

For me it's useless, though. Just looked at the list of games and every game I'm interested in I already own/I've already played.

[Hero-of-Time]

2 minutes ago, drahkon said:

 

For me it's useless, though. Just looked at the list of games and every game I'm interested in I already own/I've already played.

Im in the same boat but it's great for those who don't buy many games throughout the year.

You gotta imagine that the Xbox Gamepass has forced Sony's hand to do this. It's still not at the level of that service but it's certainly a step in the right direction.

[drahkon]

Just now, Hero-of-Time said:

You gotta imagine that the Xbox Gamepass has forced Sony's hand to do this. It's still not at the level of that service but it's certainly a step in the right direction.

Indeed.

Gotta love the competition. Gamers everywhere benefit eventually.  

BUT BOOOHHHHH ON SONY FOR STEALING ANOTHER IDEA.  

[Ganepark32]

Saw the trailer for this at the weekend when checking out what indie games were coming out in the next couple of weeks and it became an instant buy after seeing it in action.

There's only a handful of reviews out but they're all positive about the game, pointing out the similarities to Symphony of the Night and Chrono Trigger but saying it makes it's own case in the metroidvania genre. It also looks fantastic and the soundtrack is great too.

It's out today on PS4 and PS Vita and it's crossbuy (sadly not cross save as the dev has admitted screwing up his planning and wasn't able to get it in on time). Got it downloaded so looking forward to giving it a go later.

And if anyone is interested in a simple puzzle game with a good mechanic (and an easy platinum for trophy hunters), I recommend giving The Gardens Between a go. Really simple mechanic if fast forwarding/rewinding through levels and manipulating environments go progress, with some really nice touches on the gameplay front. Again, it's got a really nice chilled soundtrack to go with it and a nice story running through it too. It'll only run you a few hours, maybe 2 to 3, but I thought it was a really nice game and a nice change of pace from all the big hitter releases at the moment. There's a 20% discount until the 4th of October if anyone's interested.