Hero-of-Time Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ronnie said: I thought their pre-show last year when they announced a bunch of games that one knew about because so few people were watching, wasn't received well in general? I think it came down to expectations. Once again many people hyped up the pre-show as some massive event, when all it ever was about was to give a very smaller games a time to shine outside of the main event. I'll not bother with the VR announcements but i'll keep an eye on the other ones. I imagine the release date will be either Days Gone or Dreams.
drahkon Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 If the Showcase will be 40 minutes long, 10 minutes of gameplay footage for each game shown in that teaser, I'll be satisfied.
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Choze said: Looks like MS just gave a multiplatform showcase. Easy work for Sony and Nintendo. How many of those games will appear on Switch?
Ronnie Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Fierce_LiNk said: How many of those games will appear on Switch? I think you're missing his point
Sheikah Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Microsoft clearly paid a lot of money to get to announce new games to make for an interesting show, covering up for the fact it has very little in the way of actual good exclusives coming. They were careful with their language and as ever, didn't say which platforms each multiplatform game was coming to.
Ronnie Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Sheikah said: Microsoft clearly paid a lot of money to get to announce new games to make for an interesting show, covering up for the fact it has very little in the way of actual good exclusives coming. They were careful with their language and as ever, didn't say which platforms each multiplatform game was coming to. Why would they announce what platforms the games were coming to? It was a Microsoft conference, they're not about to promote Playstation. Halo, Gears, Forza, Crackdown, Cuphead, Metro, Ori, We Happy Few... those aren't bad exclusives coming Edited June 11, 2018 by Ronnie 2
ArtMediocre Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 But most of these will be coming to PC/windows as well, so I wouldn't really call them exclusive games tbh. I mean, I have a gaming PC. I'm not gonna go out and buy a new Xbox One just because they had a great conference. I can get almost all the games I thought was interesting on my PC, so that is not a good deal for Xbox.
Sheikah Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ronnie said: Why would they announce what platforms the games were coming to? It was a Microsoft conference, they're not about to promote Playstation. Halo, Gears, Forza, Crackdown, Cuphead, Metro, Ori, We Happy Few... those aren't bad exclusives coming Well it's pretty misleading to show games they way they did and you then to have to figure out whether it's also coming to the platform you own. I'm not expecting them to actually say it's coming to PS4 but when they show the last slide with the details it could show the usual (small) symbols of supported platforms. If I was the third party dev who made the game, I'd want the public to know my game was coming to as many people as possible. I'm not sure when this leaving out of information started happening, but it's still pretty annoying. When you think about it, paying to announce third party games ahead of their competitor is a bit of a farce - surely this doesn't have any impact on sales in their favour? Same for Sony when they do it too. I can only think MS doing it here is because if they didn't, they wouldn't really have enough games to fill a presentation. Instead of people commenting on the lack of exclusive games they're instead chattering about the cool new games they've seen. Commenting on your last bit: 1 hour ago, Ronnie said: Halo, Gears, Forza, Crackdown, Cuphead, Metro, Ori, We Happy Few... those aren't bad exclusives coming This lineup is quite stale. Halo, Gears and Forza is what MS have been peddling for years now. We Happy Few is not an exclusive - also coming to PS4 and PC. Note that in your list there is not one exclusive which is a new game rather than a sequel. The gulf between Microsoft and PS4 at this stage in terms of existing/coming exclusive content is massive. Edited June 11, 2018 by Sheikah
Ronnie Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Their studio acquisitions mean the brand new exclusives are 2-3 years off but it's a big step in the right direction. I still don't see it as misleading that they didn't put Playstation logos at the end of those multiplatform trailers. You'd never see an Xbox logo at Playstation.
bob Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Sony even blurred out an Xbox controller in one of their videos, which is hilariously petty.I don't blame Microsoft for not wanting to advertise a competitor. 1
Happenstance Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Was it last year that Sony mentioned the xbox during their conference?
Ronnie Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, bob said: Sony even blurred out an Xbox controller in one of their videos, which is hilariously petty. I don't blame Microsoft for not wanting to advertise a competitor. Especially when said competitor is so anti-consumer about allowing cross-play between platforms like Microsoft and Nintendo do.
bob Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Down the road again! Just can't wait to get down the road again.The life I love is making music with my friends.And I can't wait to get down the road again. 1
Ganepark32 Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Beyond showing Spiderman, The Last of Us Part 2, Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima, they've said that they'll be giving some light to select third party games and indie titles but I suspect they'll be used as filled to bridge the gaps between the 4 games they're focusing on. It's likely that we'll see Call of Duty and Destiny as well as the likes of Kingdom Hearts 3 and probably a bigger look at Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice but I can't put my finger on what else they'll show third party wise. Give Microsoft they're due, they do manage to give the third parties a good showing, even if they don't have the quantity of first party titles. I'd hope Sony would borrow from them on that front and on the indie front as well. From my perspective, I'm interested to see if there are any big surprises for indie game announcements coming to the PS4. I also can't wait to see Ghost of Tsushima, that's my pick of the 4 they're focusing on. I can wait on Spiderman as its release is close enough and I'm not sold on Death Stranding as I've never played a Kojima title so it means little to me until I see some extended gameplay. The Last of Us Part 2 is something I could take or leave as I thought the first game closed itself off well enough, despite obvious scope for expansion. It all comes down to the strength of the story I suppose. I won't be watching live so I'll be catching up first thing in the morning but I'm hopeful for some good announcements.
Sheikah Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ronnie said: Their studio acquisitions mean the brand new exclusives are 2-3 years off but it's a big step in the right direction. I still don't see it as misleading that they didn't put Playstation logos at the end of those multiplatform trailers. You'd never see an Xbox logo at Playstation. That's why I mentioned when Sony do it it's stupid too - citing a competitor doing it too doesn't make smoke and mirrors right. It's just extremely obvious and damning in this case with Microsoft as it's the vast majority of what they're showing. I would be annoyed if I had invested into Microsoft's console and ecosystem and this late into the generation they're developing/releasing so little in the way of new IP. Especially when they've cancelled games too - it's not really good enough to say it'll be better in 2 or 3 years! I want Microsoft to get their act together to serve as better competition to Sony as competition is always a good thing. Edited June 11, 2018 by Sheikah
Goafer Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Ronnie said: Especially when said competitor is so anti-consumer about allowing cross-play between platforms like Microsoft and Nintendo do. Huh, so this is what it looks like when someone tries to paint Microsoft in a pro-consumer light. Don't think I've ever seen it before.
Ronnie Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Goafer said: Huh, so this is what it looks like when someone tries to paint Microsoft in a pro-consumer light. Don't think I've ever seen it before. Backwards compatibility? Game Pass? Xbox has done a great job correcting their mistakes at the start of the gen.
drahkon Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 3 hours ago, drahkon said: Are we really going down this road again?
Hero-of-Time Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Who's watching the conference live tonight/tomorrow morning, then? With DMC 5 being shown at the Xbox presser, I'm hoping that we get to see a Resident Evil 2 remake trailer and the Onimusha trademark renewal leads to something to be shown here. 1
drahkon Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said: Who's watching the conference live tonight/tomorrow morning, then? I will. Here's the only thing I expect: Death Stranding gameplay. If this doesn't show up I'll be pissed. 1
Hero-of-Time Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I don't think there's anything that could annoy me about Sony's conference. Honestly, my PS4 backlog is so big that they could skip E3 and I probably still would not have caught up by this time next year. For me, they can show anything tonight and everything will be gravy. Besides, Microsoft already showed me a bunch of games I'll be playing on my PS4. 1 1
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 There will always be games coming out for the PS4, so nothing will actually happen if not much gets shown later. It'll just mean that those games get shown another time, or the third parties will fill in the gap. I'm just watching (tomorrow, not live) because it's E3 and it's the thing to do, I suppose. There's not much riding on this conference, imo. 2
Ronnie Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Choze said: Clearly gaming itself isnt a big priority. "50 New Games. 18 Exclusive Titles. 15 World Premieres" Their entire conference was about games, literally nothing else in it. They even talked about game streaming in the future (not the first publisher to do so), not to mention teasing their next generation games console. They made some big mistakes at the start of the generation but Phil Spencer coming on board has absolutely steadied the ship. Backwards compatibility is a big thing for Xbox fans and Game Pass seems a pretty great deal. At a time when I personally couldn't care less about my PS+ expiring. I know it's fashionable to hate on things in gaming, eg. Microsoft, but I think credit where credit's due. Reading up on E3, most seem to agree they had a great showing for the position they're in. Quote Their acquisitions werent big at all. The games were the same old and mostly showcasing lots of PS4 3rd party games does not paint them in a strong position. With their acqusition of github they are focused on relationships with businesses(their strength). They have never been a great consumer company. This conference fully cements that we wont see major change but they are willing to put up as many smoke and mirrors as possible. You can keep waiting though. They are going to have a crushing transition to next gen with the way they are going. A minor nitpick, they didn't show PS4 3rd party games, they showed 3rd party games. I'm also not sure how you can say their acquisitions weren't big. The proof will be in the pudding, the point is it's a step in the right direction. Edited June 11, 2018 by Ronnie
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