Retro_Link Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 @Zechs Merquise... I'd say the opportunity for 'home console gaming on the go' is quite a differentiator... we'll just have to see if it's one people will go for. Also, what do you mean unfortunately for Rez?That was aimed as Rez's unnecessary comment.
Daft Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Just gonna chip in a bit here. I personally think the PSP Go was far too ambitious considering the strategy to move to completely digital library as it pretty much locked out PSP fans who had the hard copies as potential customers. That and the huge free game fiasco I kept encountering every time I considered picking one up put me off the device too. I wouldn't say it dragged down the brand, I'd describe it more as effort wasted on too huge of a change in direction. Sony has never officially released sales data for the PSP Go, which is strongly indicative that it was possible a failed venture commercially, though a success in R&D for how the Vita would handle digital distribution. Yeah, I agree the PSP Go was a botched experiment. It was definitely a commercial failure but, like you said, an intended half step to the Vita, a bit of R&D (and I think that was the reason for its stupid price) but it didn't damage the brand. [MENTION=2344]That was aimed as Rez's unnecessary comment. Doesn't explain how Rez's luck is tied to the Vitas.
Aneres11 Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 I honestly think that the Vita will struggle to sell. The first batch of sales (as in launch week) I think will probably be fine, but after that I think they will see a slump. Not hating on it, coz I will be there on launch day buying one! But the Vita's market are people who have a PS3... They are marketing this console towards people who would like to have a PS3 style experience on a handheld. The fact Uncharted is a launch title suggests that. Whilst I am down with that shit a lot of people won't be and I think it's going to take a long time before they see lots of units being shifted. I'm inclined to agree with the pricing point too in that it is a little expensive. Personally for me, I'm ok with the price as I know what the system can do and think it's pretty impressive. But for those who don't know, they will see the price and be instantly put off. Especially when compared to how much a PS3/360 can be picked up for. I am looking forward to the Vita. Think Sony have learned a lot from the PSP era and have put a lot of focus into this. My gripe is that I don't think it has a major audience to sell to or anything unique enough about it to cater to anyone other than a current Sony gamer.
Pit-Jr Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Regardless of sales, the device looks amazing! All the hands-on impressions and videos of the build quality is making the wait unbearable. I admit the initial batch of software doesnt appeal to me, but that has more to do with me being a closed-minded prick than any indicator of quality. Also i just played through Uncharted 3 recently so i have no urge to dive back into that universe
heroicjanitor Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 The problem is is that Sony didn't produce non-3G as much as the 3G when pre-orders and the opinion of the Japanese public was that they didn't want the 3G as they have no interest in it, but Sony went ahead and made more 3G's than the non-3G. It's like being asked for something that tastes better at a cheaper price, or one that tastes exactly like the cheaper one and has more extra's that look like more trouble than it's worth and is super expensive. Then you get told that you can't have the cheaper one but only the super expensive one. Well if that's true then it explains the drop in sales perfectly. Also that was the stupidest and most long-winded analogy ever Attempting to work it out. Tastes exactly like the cheaper one... Is super expensive and has extras that are more trouble than they are worth... Is this a food analogy or what?
killer kirby Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 Well if that's true then it explains the drop in sales perfectly. Also that was the stupidest and most long-winded analogy ever Attempting to work it out. Tastes exactly like the cheaper one... Is super expensive and has extras that are more trouble than they are worth... Is this a food analogy or what? Yeah sorry, I was a bit tipsy, new years and all
Wesley Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) ....but it didn't damage the brand. Really? You don't think that developing and bringing to market a device that fails to sell in a significant manner doesn't have a negative impact in terms of reputation? I do. But not to the consumer. But for developers and publishers for sure. Also, I guess for press/coverage as well... Both of which can shape "hardcore" gamers' perception. Which is what this device is aimed at. Anyway... I dunno how well this will do. Edited December 31, 2011 by Wesley
Daft Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) No, because no one lost out. It didn't cost developers resources. The consumer wasn't forced to buy it. Sony made money on every unit. If you can point me to any changes in sales or developer support after the releas of the Go then fine, but there really isn't. The press didn't like the Go but in pretty much every write up I read they suggested the normal PSP was better, there was nothing about writing of the whole PSP line because of it. The Go is an isolated incident released near the end of the PSP lifetime. Sony ceased production specifically to focus on the Vita. The PSP Go is a footnote in the PSP's history. Developer support for the Vita is glowing. Edited January 1, 2012 by Daft
Wesley Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Well I can't point to a change in developer support because it was just following an already present downward curve. Although developer resources weren't wasted (most didn't even bother with it); you don't think that by releasing a console that sells like shit doesn't make developers/publishers think twice about supporting their future devices? Pleeeease. Not to say that it can't be changed - just sell a shit loads at the start. You know, kinda like with the Wii. Lots of developers were all, "Man fuck Nintendo, they made the GameCube." And then the Wii sold a fucktonne. So then a bunch of developers/publishers were all, "Oh fuck release something quick before this fad ends!". Yo.
Debug Mode Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I think you're kinda half right there. I don't own a PS3 but I'm interested, so I can't really relate to it being marketed towards PS3 owners. But you're right in the sense that I want it because I can get a console experience on the move. Well, that's one of the reasons, I really do want to see some kick ass homebrew on there too. Think of the emulators that could be achieved with that tech =3
Daft Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Although developer resources weren't wasted (most didn't even bother with it); you don't think that by releasing a console that sells like shit doesn't make developers/publishers think twice about supporting their future devices? It wasn't a new console, it was a new SKU. Magnitudes of difference. Either way developers are obviously getting behind the Vita.
Wesley Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I didn't say it was a new console. Anyway, let's just exchange gifs next time. I don't like typing.
Daft Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Cool. Whatevs. I'd post a GIF but I'm on ma phone. Just imagine something awesome.
Daft Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 PlayStation Vita Review This pretty much mirrors my thinking. Nice to see it not being dragged into the miasma of crap that comes with its failure/success against iOS/Android/3DS.
Wesley Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Another review: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/21/2648497/sony-playstation-vita-japan-review Also the sales are still dropping: http://www.shacknews.com/article/71847/playstation-vita-sales-slowing-in-japan-after-strong-launch
The Lillster Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I should have my Vita next week. Can't wait.
Dcubed Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Anyone here have any impressions of Army Corps of Hell? That and Gravity Rush are the two Vita games I'm looking forward to the most! That, and being able to play Monster Hunter Freedom Unite with a 2nd analog stick
The Bard Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Cannot wait. This will be my £229.99 dedicated Wipeout machine.
Debug Mode Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Cannot wait. This will be my £229.99 dedicated Wipeout machine. I was about to call you out on being absolutely insane, but then I look at the fact I have two PSP's because I bought the 3000 to be my dedicated Phantasy Star Portable 2 machine. And by some luck, shortly after that the 3000 got hacked. EDIT: Urgghhhhh even though I really don't want it at launch, every time I fucking see the thing I just want to buy it. I'd need to buy 2 memory cards to overcome the PSN account shit and I think Sega isn't offering UMD support for Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity. Edited January 6, 2012 by Debug Mode
Ollie Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I was about to call you out on being absolutely insane, but then I look at the fact I have two PSP's because I bought the 3000 to be my dedicated Phantasy Star Portable 2 machine. And by some luck, shortly after that the 3000 got hacked. EDIT: Urgghhhhh even though I really don't want it at launch, every time I fucking see the thing I just want to buy it. I'd need to buy 2 memory cards to overcome the PSN account shit and I think Sega isn't offering UMD support for Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity. Hey man, I literally just got a PSP for PSP2. Looking into getting Infinity but I'm worried about the language barrier. This is totally off topic so maybe PM me if you wanna chat
Agent Gibbs Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 EDIT: Urgghhhhh even though I really don't want it at launch, every time I fucking see the thing I just want to buy it. I'd need to buy 2 memory cards to overcome the PSN account shit and I think Sega isn't offering UMD support for Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity. same here but i'm gonna try and hold off
Cube Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/01/07/playstation-vita-rooms-manchester/ We’re kicking off our PlayStation Vita Rooms tour in Manchester from 13th January. We want you to come along and get hands on with the next generation of handheld gaming.The PlayStation Vita Rooms are open to absolutely everyone. You don’t even need to register to come along. Simply check out the schedule below, choose a time which suits you, turn up and get playing. PlayStation Vita Rooms Manchester: Opening Times - Friday 13th January: 12PM – 8PM *PLUS* Experience a live performance from Bashy at 4PM! - Saturday 14th January: 10AM – 8PM - Sunday 15th January: 10AM – 8PM - Monday 16th January: 12PM – 4PM - Tuesday 17th January: 12PM – 6PM - Wednesday 18th January: 12PM – 8PM The Games: Here’s a list of the games you’ll be able to play at PlayStation Vita Rooms Manchester: - Uncharted: The Golden Abyss - Reality Fighters - MotorStorm RC - ModNation Racers: Road Trip - Little Deviants - Escape Plan - Super Stardust - WipEout 2048 There may be a few surprise games at the event too. The Vital Info: Venue Address: 63 Deansgate, Manchester. MW3 2BW Map: http://g.co/maps/tfq8w Parking: http://g.co/maps/wvxth Facebook Event Page (Chat with other attendees!): http://www.facebook.com/playstationaccess?sk=events I think I'll pop down on Saturday and give it a try.
The Bard Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I was about to call you out on being absolutely insane, but then I look at the fact I have two PSP's because I bought the 3000 to be my dedicated Phantasy Star Portable 2 machine. And by some luck, shortly after that the 3000 got hacked. EDIT: Urgghhhhh even though I really don't want it at launch, every time I fucking see the thing I just want to buy it. I'd need to buy 2 memory cards to overcome the PSN account shit and I think Sega isn't offering UMD support for Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity. It's ok, I'm all sorts of nutty. But really though, even if there isn't a wealth of original content on the machine at launch (which to be fair, there actually is for a change), there would still be a hell of a lot of PSP original games that I missed out on which I'd be more than happy to download. Never played either of the God of War games on the console for example, which I'm really excited to check out. This console has got me pretty damn excited, and that's a strange feeling because it's been a long ass time.
Diageo Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 They had Playstation Move demonstrations here in Ireland, so hopefully they'll have some Vita ones too. Free alcohol again would be great.
Cube Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I'd need to buy 2 memory cards to overcome the PSN account shit http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/12/sony-vita-psn/ Actually, you'll need to do a factory reset every time you wanted to change account.
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