Cube Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 3 things: - I am super interested to hear the price. I hope for low, I suspect astoundingly high. Whoever predicted $999.99 (Kotaku? Don't remember) I just hope were wrong. I laughed when I read that, then though, "Wait... shit... what if that's even close to being right?" That's just one of the big US retailers being very, very safe with the price. Really, they should wait until the thing has a name before making it available for pre-order.
Daft Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 - I also hate that Nintendo completely destroyed the GameBoy brand. I assumed it would be 3 areas - GC (then Wii), DS (DSi etc) and GameBoy Epic (or whatever), with the GameBoy being the graphics monster that would directly combat the PSP and the DS as the touch-screen experiment. Wouldn't have been a sound business plan but would have been awesome for us consumers. What dicks, eh, thinking about money all the time. God. Actually I thought they'd push through with the Micro for the Gameboy. Make it smaller and cheaper, as in really cheap. Even make it a completely open format. I think it would have been absolutely brilliant. I'd kill for a Gameboy that small and solid again.
Caris Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 The basic MacBook on Apples US store is $999 and on the UK store it's £867. My point is that whichever Gamestop employe honestly thought that the PSP2 would cost nearly a grand should be shot at dawn. My guess is maximum £450, it's more likely gonna be about £300. Sony made the huge mistake of pricing the PS3, I don't think they will make the same a few year later.
Fierce_LiNk Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 The Gameboy back in the day was great. Although, I was never that fond of the Advance. Bar the Metroid games, I found the console quite boring, to be honest. At least, nowhere near as interesting as the DS has been. The PSP2 technically is very good. However, judging from the games we've half-seen so far, I think I'll have more joy with the DS. It just seems to be that idea of replicating a home console experience on a handheld which doesn't suit my image of what I want from a handheld. To me, like ReZ has mentioned, the games need to be suitable for portability. For example, Electroplankton is a brillliaaaant DS game. You can pick it up to play for a few mins at a time, or for hours if you choose. Its easy to get into it, very fun and you can play it on the go. For me, thats what I look for in portable games. The simpleness but also that accessibility. Thats partly why I don't think 3D in a handheld is necessarily a great idea. We'll have to wait and see.
The Lillster Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I wish I had bought a Gameboy Micro when I had the chance. A couple of years ago Comet were selling them for £15.
Aimless Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 A Game Boy Pocket? I think you'll find the GBA SP, specifically the backlit AGS-101, is the ultimate Game Boy and I'll fight anyone that claims otherwise!
Daft Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 The basic MacBook on Apples US store is $999 and on the UK store it's £867. My point is that whichever Gamestop employe honestly thought that the PSP2 would cost nearly a grand should be shot at dawn. My guess is maximum £450, it's more likely gonna be about £300. Sony made the huge mistake of pricing the PS3, I don't think they will make the same a few year later. Well the PSP went on sale almost 6 years ago for £180. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the NGP was a lot cheaper than a lot of people suspect. (I'm going to guess £250.)
Dante Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 I was reading topic on another boards about batteries and I never noticed how bad technology for batteries is. The sizes of the batteries in the iPad.
Daft Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Yeah, batteries are a real issue. The tech just hasn't evolved in line with needs.
Arnieboy Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 I'm really quite surprised at this announcement. It seems like a solid machine that brings a bit more to the table. Not really sure what i think on the looks though, i personally think the 3DS is more aesthetically pleasing. To the whole 'the 3DS is doing nothing new, 3D is a gimmick', wasn't the touchscreen just a gimmick? Look how that turned out. 3D will either work, or it won't, it's a chance Nintendo are taking. Also, i'm thinking of the 3DS as more of a Gameboy Advance type of system. The Gameboy went through different sizes, then added colour and then they released the more powerful GBA. The 3DS isn't really the DS' successor, it's just an upgrade, a 'DS Advance.' Nintendo will only make a completely new handheld when the DS' popularity declines enough to do so. The PSP2 looks good though with the interesting back touch pad, the dual analogue sticks and PS3 graphics. Oh and it looks like they finally realised that putting the charger slot right underneath the buttons on the right-hand side is a bad idea, thank god. I won't be holding my breath for the price point though, it ain't gonna be cheap. Either way, i'll probably be getting both, though i still think the 3DS has the potential to sell more (prove me wrong sony). I just hope the PSP2 has a better games library than it's predecessor.
Caris Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Well the PSP went on sale almost 6 years ago for £180. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the NGP was a lot cheaper than a lot of people suspect. (I'm going to guess £250.) I totally agree.
James McGeachie Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 The spec sheet just made me realise that the resolution on this is noticibly higher than the Wii. Oh dear. I guess that was always going to be the case, but when you realise that a handheld is much more powerful and higher resolution than a current gen home system, you realise there's a pretty big issue there. I mean from the sounds of it the motion tech in this is even noticibly better than the regular Wii remote.
Oxigen_Waste Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Just like the PSP was superior to the DS. Look how that ended You're not getting it. The DS had a gameplay advantage, price advantage, software advantage. This time around, it's a "fair fight", or at least it seems to be. And although I'm a die hard nintendo fan and will get the 3DS as soon as OoT or Kid Icarus come out and will probably only get the PSP2 in 3 or 4 years, this time it seems like the PSP is superior in everything. I'm not that excited about 3D. I'm sure it looks awesome and all, but realistically, I'll probably never use it. The problem I see with the PSP2 (or NGP or whatever they'll call it at launch) is that it is essentially the same thing that afflicts the non Nintendo side of gaming at the moment (and even afflicts the Nintendo side, but not as such). It's just the same Malibu Stacey as before, just with a shiny new quadcore hat. It's just more powerful and almost all of the additions are ridiculously superficial. Come on, be honest here, 3DS is the same as well. Do you expect 3D to actually change anything in gaming itself? Especially since half their player base (kids) won't even be able to enjoy it? Personally I've no interest in stereoscopic 3D so on paper this is a better machine for me than the 3DS. Obviously the latter still has Nintendo so I'll likely pick one up at some point, but it strikes me that a lot of people are being unnecessarily hard on NGP simply because it isn't coming from Nintendo: complaints are being levelled at it which are just as applicable to the 3DS. Yes, this... thank you. 100% agree. Odd that you say that because my DS touch screen is fast and responsive, but my iPod and my friend's iPhones always seem to be slightly off where I touch and somewhat laggy Come on, don't be silly, Sere. We're on the same team here, I'll be aboard the 3DS as soon as possible too, but let's not lie, it's beneath us. I'll get the NGP when some decent games come for it. Uncharted never interested me and the rest are all same old stuff Come on, now you're just being a fanboy. In both cases they're the same old stuff. Just because Pilot Wings and Kid Icarus appeal more to us it doesn't mean they're any less of a sequel. Truth is, neither has any promising new IPs... yet. (But yes, I agree with you, so far the 3DS wins, software-wise, but again, it comes down to one's opinion, really) If that was the case around here, I'd have gotten mine a lot earlier. As it stands: 160GB PS3 naked: 300€, 320GB bundle: 350€. You do know you can import it from over there, right? I mean, that's what I've been doin for years. Oo Isn't the EU cool with it's free trade rules? Much like everyone in europe buys music instruments from your country. I kinda want a PSP2 now more than a 3DS, just for the prospect of playing an awesome looking version of Wipeout on the go. Yes, I will pay any asking price for Wipeout. Fuck Wipeout, I say bring on F-Zero 3DS!! @Aimless, that was a stupid comment about the 3DS' games, because the PSP will get a Ridge Racer, Street Fighter, DoA and probably some updated ports/collections etc... I think the point was exactly that: they're both the same, for now. I'll be generally surprised if it's anything under €400. Sony are retarded... it should never be over 300. But of course, it will be. I really like the use of the touch screen here to climb about (I also like that it's an option so if you're on your period like dwarf you can stick with your buttons). Makes it a lot more accessible. I know it's probably been done before but in Uncharted fashion, it's never looked so smooth. Oh, fuck off, will you? Pure gimmick, if I ever saw one. It's like when they included those touch screen specials in dawn of sorrow for the DS, just because the touch screen is there... Bah. A Game Boy Pocket? I think you'll find the GBA SP, specifically the backlit AGS-101, is the ultimate Game Boy and I'll fight anyone that claims otherwise! It's either that or the Micro. Depends on what you want it for, really. _____ Truth be told, this whole thread is pretty much a fanboy fistfight... which is nonsense, really... I'm a Nintendo fanboy, and I have no problem with admitting the PSP2 is looking like the superior product. That's all this is at this point, speculation. But yeah, I much preffer the 3DS, but the PSP2 is looking like to be the superior machine. But as usual Sony's releasing it a bit too late... Also, they should really come up with something like this for the psp/psp2: Also, why the fuck would anyone want/need touch control in Uncharted??? Also also, can anyone please explain to me the obsession Sony had with FPS/shooter games in general on the first PSP? They can't be played, it's horrible!
Dante Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Also also, can anyone please explain to me the obsession Sony had with FPS/shooter games in general on the first PSP? They can't be played, it's horrible! I think it is to get some gamers interested into handhelds because they think that aren't classed as the same as consoles. I wonder if major western third party developers will be more serious into making games this time unlike they did with the PSP and DS.
ReZourceman Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 A couple of years ago Comet were selling them for £15. *Fuck yeah they were!*
Daft Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Oh, fuck off, will you? Pure gimmick, if I ever saw one. It's like when they included those touch screen specials in dawn of sorrow for the DS, just because the touch screen is there... Bah. It isn't, not at all actually. For starters, it's optional and why would a button combination be any better than tapping the screen to stealth kill someone? Also, for the climbing I said it made it accessible. Games require a foreknowledge of what you can and can't do, the touch screen cuts through that. I probably wont use it, unless I'm feeling lazy, but it obviously simplifies the controls and as an option I can't see how you can argue it as a bad thing. I've seen people try and play Uncharted who don't usually play games. They can get frustrated pretty easily with the climbing. Edit: Fist proper Uncharted screenshot, it seems. Edited January 28, 2011 by Daft
Cube Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 I probably wont use it, unless I'm feeling lazy. Based on the size of the device , I would think that the lazy option would be sticking to buttons.
Daft Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) How small are your hands?! Even if your hands weren't big enough, you'd literally switch to holding like a DS for a few seconds to swipe. That's pretty much how I use an iPad. Holding it with two hands and the just supporting it with one. Works for that and that is much bigger. Edited January 28, 2011 by Daft
heroicjanitor Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 3 things: - I am super interested to hear the price. I hope for low, I suspect astoundingly high. Whoever predicted $999.99 (Kotaku? Don't remember) I just hope were wrong. I laughed when I read that, then though, "Wait... shit... what if that's even close to being right?" Lol I thought the same thing, if it is 300 euros and has the games I'll probably get one but I see that as unlikely. I want to see what Square Enix and God of War guys can do with it.
Debug Mode Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Edit: Fist proper Uncharted screenshot, it seems. Jeebus, that's going to look mighty fine on a 5 inch screen but it looks so awful on my monitor haha.
Cube Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 How small are your hands?! Well, my thumb isn't 9cm long. The main thing is the weight (which hasn't been announced). If it's exactly the same weight as the DS then it will feel quite a bit heavier because of the size.
Jonnas Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Jeebus, that's going to look mighty fine on a 5 inch screen but it looks so awful on my monitor haha. So this is the point we've reached when people demand good graphics... So, I skim-read details, but I hear this will have a second joystick (yay!), touchscreen (lol), an extra touchpad on the back (buh?) and motion controls (woot!). On the other hand, the 3DS has Nintendo games, and healthy 3rd party support... If I buy one of these portables it will be a bit farther in the future (like a year or so from now), but the 3DS sounds better thus far. Mainly due to confirmed software (screw the launch line-up, I'm thinking longterm). I'd hate to see either machine become wasted potential, anyway. @Dazz: Useless touchscreen controls are gimmicky. Good touchscreen controls have the game built around them (e.g. The DS Zeldas, Soul Bubbles), while gimmicky touchscreen functions can be tacked on any game, without the game becoming better for it (e.g. Dawn of Sorrow, Wario: Master of Disguise). An Uncharted game entirely controlled with the touchscreen, now that would be something.
Debug Mode Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 So this is the point we've reached when people demand good graphics... Or you know, you could read the whole post and see that I noted that it's going to look amazing on the screen the NGP uses, compared to a 22" computer monitor
McPhee Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 So this is the point we've reached when people demand good graphics... Haven't we always? It's just since the Wii that it's become "cool" to shrug off the value of stunning visuals.
Jonnas Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Or you know, you could read the whole post and see that I noted that it's going to look amazing on the screen the NGP uses, compared to a 22" computer monitor I know. A few jagged edges/blurriness aside, it doesn't look anywhere near "awful" on the monitor. That was my point. Something that looks fine is being called awful. That's the point we've reached.
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