Hero-of-Time Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 I dislike the multiplayer because I find you die too quickly, maps are boring and one levelled, etc. I tend to enjoy the campaigns, but I find its one of the least fun games. Same. I also enjoy the Spec-Ops mode. Love me some co-op on games.
Zechs Merquise Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I dislike the multiplayer because I find you die too quickly, maps are boring and one levelled, etc. I tend to enjoy the campaigns, but I find its one of the least fun games. If you're dying too quickly, that means you're not very good. However, if you're complaining that you die too quickly because assault rifles tend to drop people fast, then that's an odd complaint! It'd be a much worse game if you ran around like a bullet sponge soaking up damage and headshots like you were made out of titanium. As for the maps, you're simply wrong. The COD maps are some of the best multiplayer maps around. They all flow very well and have just the right amount of verticality. Classic maps like Vacant, Bloc, Downpour, Asylum, Crash, Upheaval, WMD, Array and Cracked are in a league of their own. The campaigns are good, but are slightly overly scripted for my liking.
Nintendohnut Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 While I don't want to start an argument, I would like to point out that you can't say that he is 'simply wrong' as what he said was his opinion. If he finds the maps boring he can't be wrong. Sorry, I just feel like your post is the first in what will turn out to be an unnecessary argument and I thought I'd try to pre-emptively stop it
Cube Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 The maps probably seem fairly flat and boring to ReZ because of Uncharted. However, CoD doesn't have the platforming aspect of the gameplay to allow for such amazing maps. Although I do have to agree that the maps aren't all that great. In CoD for the voting process my mind goes somewhat like "I have that one less, so I'll pick that." Or "NUKETOWN!!!!".
spirited away Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 The COD formula has been around much longer than COD. Ofcourse it was going tire fast. MW1 was a good game but not pushing the genre forward in any way(minus online unlocking etc.). IW/Sledge etc. just dont have the same status as say DICE or Valve when comes to games. COD will still sell gangbusters but many gamers are wanting to move on. Wow, you spout a lot of shit. Modern Warfare 1 > any Battlefield. It's a truth. Where are people pre-ordering this? I usually plump for Shopto.net, but they are charging £49.99?! They are out of stock in any case.
Ash Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Wow, you spout a lot of shit. Modern Warfare 1 > any Battlefield. It's a truth. Where are people pre-ordering this? I usually plump for Shopto.net, but they are charging £49.99?! They are out of stock in any case. Tesco direct for £34.90 http://www.tescoentertainment.com/store/browse/games/CODMW35OffOct2011/?sssdmh=edc3.474057&utm_source=Home&utm_medium=Rotating2&utm_campaign=CODMW35OffOct2011
Cookyman Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 No free pants though. BF3 wins this round. I'm wearing mine right now mmmm cosy!
Wesley Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 The COD formula has been around much longer than COD. Ofcourse it was going tire fast. MW1 was a good game but not pushing the genre forward in any way(minus online unlocking etc.). IW/Sledge etc. just dont have the same status as say DICE or Valve when comes to games. COD will still sell gangbusters but many gamers are wanting to move on. No offence, but why do you think people will take your comments on larger matters seriously when you can't even be arsed to research any of the smaller claims.
flameboy Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 The COD formula has been around much longer than COD. Ofcourse it was going tire fast. MW1 was a good game but not pushing the genre forward in any way(minus online unlocking etc.). IW/Sledge etc. just dont have the same status as say DICE or Valve when comes to games. COD will still sell gangbusters but many gamers are wanting to move on. Really though that many millions of gamers that want more and more of the COD experience and I'm sure that outweighs all these many gamers you speak of...
spirited away Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Something that I can't stand is this notion that every iteration of a franchise has to be ground-breakingly innovative. What's wrong the continued refining of a successful formula? (You can do one IF you think Battlefield 3 is anything but some well-advised tweaks to an already winning formula). In my opinion, If you're gonna make wholesale changes within a generation, you might as well develop a new IP. The same goes for scripting. I think tightly scripted sequences are perfectly suited to the FPS genre; the waning quality of single-player campaigns I would attribute to their increasingly anachronistic nature - they are becoming more irrelevant to a generation of online gamers. Choze, if you don't think the Call of Duty franchise has had any influence in the advancement of the genre, you're truly blinkered.
Wesley Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Sales = quality? What?! You were just claiming that millions of hardcore gamers are moving on. So, "Quantity = Correct Opinion"? You're essentially using the same logic. In all honesty, why do you even come into this thread?
spirited away Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 It would be nice if this actually was the case. I would like to hear how you think COD has helped advance the genre? As a veteran fps player I am quite interested in hearing your answer. It's become notorious for a killstreak and perk system that are re-hashed in every second new FPS for a start (no doubt you'll probably reference an FPS that had a system vaguely resembling that of COD's, with negligble effect on the genre). What good is being a seasoned FPS player when you have the insight of a garden vegetable?
Wesley Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Also, I take it Choze is all "Battlefield 3 is the shitz yo" (like he was about Killzone... and like he was about MAG). But... these are all so intertwined... Do you think, apart from the stupid marketing side and that bullshit, these developers have that same kind of rabbid fanboy attitude that some gamers have? If you can't place and understand, without your fanboy dick getting hard, how these games relate and influence each other then you're... Well... a fanboy. I kind of got lost in what I was saying. Hey Choze, I do actually like you, but you come across as a dick sometimes. I think you know that though. And you like it.
Wesley Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Awwww... I think he's ignoring me. Oh well. trolltrolltroll
Zechs Merquise Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Choze, you are truly a dick. To suggest COD has not influenced gaming is the most laughable thing you have ever spouted. Every game - from your beloved Killzone and Uncharted right through to almost every other FPS with an online component have been influenced by COD. From the XP, to the levelling, to the unlocks, to the perks - it was all popularised and brought together as a blockbuster package by Modern Warfare. If I were to pick three console shooters that changed the way people thought about console FPS games it would Goldeneye, Halo and Modern Warfare. That's how important the title is.
flameboy Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Sales = quality? Justin Bieber is one of the best singers of all time? COD has always been a huge seller since its inception. Much like MOH was. Neither have a single creative bone in their body or work towards advancing the genre. In fact quite the opposite, which is why they rightfully and so many other hundreds of fps with the same easy formula get so much hate. I am glad the single player of BF got called out by gamers for being the same scripted stuff we get too much of. No game deserves a free pass like the COD or MOH series did. Same goes for the online. Stop right there you putting words in my mouth. You said that many gamers are wanting to move on. I merely said that the millions of gamers still buying the franchise prove otherwise. I never said anything about quality just what people want. Your logic that people will keep just buying it regardless of quality is wrong as there are plenty of franchises that have died due to this problem. Look at Guitar Hero it died because of over saturation and lack of quality along with the format becoming tired. COD has not reached this point with millions of people clearly despite how your fanboyish reasoning may view things.
Nintendohnut Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Choze, you have to STOP doing the following thing: Choze makes a comment/point People respond to that point Choze ignores almost all the responses, quotes a small part of one post out of context, and makes another comment/point based on that Repeat ad finatum. If you want to have a serious discussion you have to start actually responding properly. At the moment you're coming across as a troll because you're simply ignoring posts and quoting things out of context. People are making valid points and it's almost like you're simply ignoring them. Doing so makes it look like you don't have a valid response for them, and this makes you look like a fanboy/hater (who are notorious for becoming oddly blind to valid arguments people make). Please try to have a proper discussion, or don't bother coming into the thread. I'm not saying go away etc, but you need to start discussing things properly. If you don't there's not a lot of point in you being here. Thanks
Platty Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can pre-order the 360 hardened edition online?? Checked about 6 websites and it's sold out already! Edited November 2, 2011 by Platty
gaggle64 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Choze bought them all. It's all part of his plan to stop anyone from playing it.
MadDog Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 From the XP, to the levelling, to the unlocks, to the perks - it was all popularised and brought together as a blockbuster package by Modern Warfare. The thing is, that is exactly what is wrong with FPS these days....
Zechs Merquise Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can pre-order the 360 hardened edition online?? Checked about 6 websites and it's sold out already! http://www.propelgamer.co.uk/product-detail.aspx?ID=950 That's all I could find! Never heard of them though.
ReZourceman Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 If you're dying too quickly, that means you're not very good. However, if you're complaining that you die too quickly because assault rifles tend to drop people fast, then that's an odd complaint! It'd be a much worse game if you ran around like a bullet sponge soaking up damage and headshots like you were made out of titanium. As for the maps, you're simply wrong. The COD maps are some of the best multiplayer maps around. They all flow very well and have just the right amount of verticality. Classic maps like Vacant, Bloc, Downpour, Asylum, Crash, Upheaval, WMD, Array and Cracked are in a league of their own. The campaigns are good, but are slightly overly scripted for my liking. Ha, okay. I am aware of my poor performance at the game but that isn't remotely the point. Its like...if you start getting shot, you will die, whereas in more arcadey and less "hardcore" games or FPS's you have a chance to....use tactical positions and quick thinking more. As for the maps - lulz. I think they're pretty dire and yes they are flat (as Cube said I <3 Uncharted) however, even an FPS like Resistance 3 - way way way better maps, interesting layouts, multiples spots to places, not all flat. I do like the airport map, thats great, but the majority of others are just "....." The bottom line, like I said is that I don't find it fun. I'd rather be made of titanium and absorb bullets than have the ultra realism of dying from gun shots. :P The maps probably seem fairly flat and boring to ReZ because of Uncharted. However, CoD doesn't have the platforming aspect of the gameplay to allow for such amazing maps. Although I do have to agree that the maps aren't all that great. In CoD for the voting process my mind goes somewhat like "I have that one less, so I'll pick that." Or "NUKETOWN!!!!". Wurd.
Kav Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) If you die too quickly and you struggle to kill someone who would die just as quickly then surely playing a game where you take more damage before you die would put you at a bigger disadvantage considering the person you're trying to kill would take longer to die too..? And for those that think CoD isn't tactical, they haven't played CoD with me... I'd make the game much more tactical for you, hell, I'd improve you ten-fold as a player by advising on tactics. I'm confident in saying so. Edited November 3, 2011 by Kav
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