motion Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 I know there's a similar topic in the Retro gaming section but thought it would be interesting to do a poll so we can compare results... Since polls only allow for 10 results, the Oracle games have been mergend and Four Swords, being a multiplayer Zelda game has been ditched. If either are your favourites you can obviously say so on here. Let's see... (and tell us why as well)
harribo Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Why wrong forum this doesn't exclusivly come under the Wii, handhels or gamecube forum which in my opinion makes it suitable for general chat.
ipaul Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Mine would appear to be the first vote for majoras mask.
The3rdChildren Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Now I'm no authority on Zelda games. I've never beaten the earlier ones including Link to the Past nor have I defeated the three day epic that is Majora's Mask. However, I have played, beaten and enjoyed Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess which I can certainly give my opinion on and really, that's all this thread is about isn't it? Which of those three is the better game. Which is the best genuine Zelda. Taking everything into account, I'd probably need to pick Ocarina of Time. Not only was it my first Zelda game, it is also one of the most fondly remembered gaming experiences I have ever had. Never before had such a game been created and so masterfully. It truly is a classic in every sense of the word. BUT WAIT. THERE IS MORE YET TO READ. That isn't to say that the other two, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, aren't genuinely deserving. Wind Waker is a graphical masterpiece, which controls like a dream set in a world unique to any Zelda before it. In terms of audio, Wind Waker is every bit as satisfying to the ear as it is to the eye, with some beautiful renditions of classic themes and new tunes that will always be fondly remembered from it. Sadly Wind Waker has several failings. Dull sailing that even an epic overworld theme couldn't save, pathetically forgettable dungeon bosses and an annoying pirate bitch who can't stop winking. Most famous of all Wind Waker's shortcomings is the ending segment, which was rushed and frustrating to play. For me the game's bad outweighs the good... but only just. Then we come to Twilight Princess, which has been debated so widely on the Wii boards the past few weeks that I can barely bring myself to type another positive word about it. I loved it, some of you hated it and others just went in expecting a little more than was given.... that's too bad. Sure, it wasn't perfect... but it wasn't as flawed as people keep on making it out to be. Compared to the rose-tinting that goes on with Ocarina of Time fans - myself included - Twilight Princess was always going to fall short. Even so, Twilight Princess was miles better than the Wind Waker, but rose-tinting won't allow it, or probably any Zelda ever made, to claim Ocarina's title. Result? Ocarina wins. Always. In creating such an amazing game, Nintendo have set themselves an unattainable Zelda standard for the rest of eternity - one even they are going to struggle to reach. Keep trying guys.
Shorty Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 We had fav zelda topic in retro gaming. Which the OP mentioned in his first sentence. My stance on this thread is it can stay, polls aren't as big an issue as they once were, a few do no harm. If someone generally wants a numerical feedback, a poll doesn't make sense on such a quiet board. Also Zelda covers the new and the old, and is part of a media genre like a series of books or movies. We don't have a "general nintendo discussion" board because it would be underused, so this seems the most fitting place. Well, foxy, soag and Moria might disagree, their call. Personally it's such a close call between MM and OoT - and for very different reasons. OoT landed a place as the best game ever with me for a long time, and I must've replayed it through so very many times. There was so much to do, and such an amazing turning point in the middle. Blew me away. MM then became probably one of the most intriguing games I've ever played, and the use of colour and style was mindblowingly cool. I love time-traveling stories, and this was one of the best uses of the concept ever. I can't decide, so I'm flipping a coin for my contribution to the poll: *flips* Tails it is, Majora's Mask
McPhee Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 I voted TP, im actually enjoying it which is pretty rare for a Zelda game. Only this, Four Swords Adventures and A Link To The Past have actually kept me playing for longer than a few hours I enjoyed Wind Waker, but lost my save game half way through and couldnt be bothered to retrace my steps Ocarina i thought was ok, some sections were fun and others werent. Maybe i was too young to truly appreciate the game?
Dyson Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Does anyone else find that OOT is maybe a little too...worshipped? It was without a doubt a fantastic game but I think people might be overdoing it.
Shino Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Does anyone else find that OOT is maybe a little too...worshipped? It was without a doubt a fantastic game but I think people might be overdoing it. No it isn't.
Meik Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Wand of Gamelon, although apparently that isn't deemed worthy enough to be included. Scandal.
Mr. Bananagrabber Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 They're all pretty much the same game anyway.
KingJoe Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Ocarina of time was my first 'proper' zelda experience. I had the original Legend of Zelda on the NES (still have it, in the cupboard, signed...), but I wasn't into it anything like as much as I was into Ocarina. That game had me blown away. I had it a bit late (I got it on players' choice while I was doing my A-levels), but that just meant that I had no spoilers, but could ask people who had played it through for help. I'd also just bought a nice stereo and worked out how to get the N64 playing through it (those were simpler times, no dolby pro logic for me). All this conspired to make zelda an absolutely wonderful, immersive experience.it was the first game I'd literally played all day, from waking up to going to bed. The storyline was epic, with twists that weren't blindingly obvious. Ocarina taught me how to play zelda. It was the most beautiful, involving, frustrating and immersive game I had played up until then. There were times that I got stuck and couldn't stop thinking about how to get unstuck. There were times I'd just leg it about on epona for the hell of it. There was the water temple. There was the temple of time. Games have moved on since then, they have got more immersive and epic, and I reckon twilight princess is a better game to play, because it's got subtle extras, and the experience of 8 years making games in it that ocarina couldn't have. The story isn't quite as good, I reckon. But partly because I can tell what will happen from previous zeldas. The game is easier, I didn't find anything anywhere near as difficult as the Water Temple, the final boss didn't manage to kill me once, whenever I got stuck, a break from the game was all it took. I was never pulling my hair out, not knowing what to do next. But the game was[/] a zelda game. Very much so. It echoed ocarina really well. And the dungeon design was noticably excellent. Personally, I prefer TP to WW. Windwaker felt like there was almost too much of it, and I could never be bothered with the sidequests. Some of the dungeons were excellent. The shitty triforce quest wasn't. I found WW more annoying than I found TP. Link's awakening was a stunning game, absolutely fantastic. But I'm tired and it's been years since I played it! To summarise, Ocarina of Time is my favourite game of all time because it was what it was, way back when. Beef up the graphics and it would stand high among today's games. My second favourite (console) zelda is TP. I'm knackered, so I'm off to bed!
or else you will DIE Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I really can't bring myself to decide LTTP, WW or TP so I didn't vote
Max Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 for me its has to be Ocarina of Time with Twilight Princess a close second (still not finished, about 50% there) and so i wont vote just yet. I cant remember anything from Wind waker and so i assume its was a poor game (games tht dont have a majour impact on me are quickly forgotten). Didnt like Majoras mask that much, even though it was a good game, i focused on the main quest and managed to avoid most side quest which was the games main aspect. can remember white link with the radical blade! amaizing, and a very confusing tree with masks, but thats about it.
motion Posted January 26, 2007 Author Posted January 26, 2007 Which the OP mentioned in his first sentence. Thank you. Looks like so far OOT is just shading TP, with MM in 3rd and Wind Waker in 4th... but there's still only 19 votes so it could all change! I'm not going to get into any long posts (though 3rd yours was a good one).. sufficed to say it comes down to 4 games for me: OOT: Masterpiece of art, sound, story and pacing. MM: 3 day concept/time travel/mask aspect was pure genius. A couple more dungeons and it would have beaten OOT. WW: The most beautiful visuals I've ever seen in a computer game, gorgeous level design, fantastic characters, great story. Those two missing temples and mini dungeons for each triforce piece and it would have beaten OOT. TP: Fantastic game, made poor by some big flaws: story-telling, pacing, short dungeons in the second half of the game and lack of depth throughout the whole game. Nothing to do in towns and Hyrule is very barren oddly enough. Having said that, Midna was perfect, the story itself was a great one and the dungeon locations were amazing, there were some very cool items and the cutscenes were excellent. Little touches like the bridge on fire and the bridge duel + carriage escort + tear collection (in the first, and in my opinion superior, part of the game) were excellent and the bosses were very cool, if the easiest of any Zelda game. Winner for me: Ocarina of Time Didnt like Majoras mask that much, even though it was a good game, i focused on the main quest and managed to avoid most side quest which was the games main aspect. can remember white link with the radical blade! amaizing, and a very confusing tree with masks, but thats about it. Odd, if you ignored the side quests you shouldn't have been able to get all the masks, meaning you shouldn't have been able to get Fierce Deity Link?
Cube Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Twilight Princess, followed by Majora's Mask. Ocarina of Time never seemed that special (even though it was my first Zelda game), thought it had a dull story, bland characters, and badly-designed dungeons...
Daft Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Majora's Mask is a true piece of art. Odd, if you ignored the side quests you shouldn't have been able to get all the masks, meaning you shouldn't have been able to get Fierce Deity Link? Good spot! Does anyone else find that OOT is maybe a little too...worshipped? It was without a doubt a fantastic game but I think people might be overdoing it. Yes, but don't say it in public...
killthenet Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 True, Majora's Mask is one of the few games that is truly a work of art. Ocarina Of Time is certainly put on a pedastal too often. It's an exceptional game, but it does have flaws. The Water Temple however is one of the finest set pieces in a video game. It was clearly an experiment in 3D temple design, it was completely off the wall and very often confusing, but it all worked. It was an incredibly complex temple and an excellent example of 3D game design. Majora's Mask on the other had was wildly innovative in almost every aspect of design. If it were a film it wouldn't have been so new, but applying the "Groundhog Day" concept to a videogame was a fairly radical idea and it was executed perfectly in Majora's Mask. On top of all the errands and quests, you also had 4 temples to defeat, each requiring you to take the form of another creature in order to complete it. And all within a recurring 3 day time limit. There really hasn't been a game that's been as deep and engrossing to me as Majora's Mask. It's going to take a lot to surpass it, but I'm confidant that Eiji Anouma will do so.
Solo Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Link's Awakening for me easlily, it's the game I lost my Zelda virginity on. It's shocking to see how much more epic a gameboy game can be over most games out now.
Roostophe Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I have to say Ocarina Of Time, mainly as it is the only Zelda game I have actually completed. (But I would've completed Twilight Princess by now if it hadn't been for Christmas!)
EEVILMURRAY Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Link To The Past, shits all over Ocarina.
dabookerman Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Where else can you bang whores? Zelda 2 ofcourse.
Supergrunch Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Having played all the Zelda games except for the CD-I ones, here's what I think: The Legend of Zelda: Revolutionary for its time, and still provides a bit of enjoyment today... but obviously can't match the big players. I've got up to the last dungeon with all the heart pieces. Zelda II: I don't like this one much at all... it's clunky and boring. So I haven't played much of it. A link to the past: Brilliant, I think this is the epitome of 2D gaming. It's so fun, and there are loads of great bits. For this reason, I have done all there is to do. All the gameboy ones: I've never really got into these, but I can see the merit. I ought to play them more, as I own all of them apart from Link's awakening. Ocarina of time: Also excellent, this has so may little things in it that make it great. I've completed and got the Biggoron's sword, but haven't done many other sidequests. Majora's Mask: I should play this more. Every time I've tried it, I've got a bit bored and given up before it gets good... Wind Waker: Good, and introducing interesting ideas, but flawed overall. I neverthess completed it and enjoyed it. Twilight Princess: I'm playing this one at the moment, and I've just completed the Arbiter's grounds. It's a very good game, but doesn't match up to Ocarina. Four swords: Great fun, but not deep enough to be true contenders. But then they aren't supposed to be. So, overall, I think a link to the past wins it for me.
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