Playstation 5 Console Discussion

[drahkon]

33 minutes ago, Julius said:

I'm curious if anyone has a particular stance one way or the other on insiders? These days it seems like we get more and more legitimate leaks as time goes on! 

I've become indifferent. Even if something has leaked, I still feel a sense of surprise when it's actually revealed. So if any of those insiders or leaks come true, you can be sure that I'll be giddy with joy on Wednesday

Edited September 12, 2020 by drahkon

[Will]

4 hours ago, Julius said:

Speaking of whom, I'm curious if anyone has a particular stance one way or the other on insiders? These days it seems like we get more and more legitimate leaks as time goes on! 

I think they’re either people who don’t actually know anything, but take a bit of an educated guess on things that seem plausible such as this Imran Khan. Or else people read far too much into things posted by people with some legitimacy but no real information to share, such as this Drew Wilson. After that it’s just partners on certain things who suck at keeping up their contractual obligations not to leak things.

Personally I don’t pay much attention to the first two, but partner leaks can be fairly interesting sometimes.

[drahkon]

Man, I really hope they begin the showcase with the PS5 startup and then just launch Demon's Souls to show off the booting/loading speed.
Alternatively: 40 minutes of Bugsnax.

gg ez

Edited September 13, 2020 by drahkon

[Ashley]

6 minutes ago, drahkon said:

Man, I really hope they begin the showcase with the PS5 startup and then just launch Demon's Souls to show off the booting/loading speed.
Alternatively: 40 minutes of Bugsnax.

gg ez

The latter please.

Was reading an interview with the devs in Wireframe and apparently they received some vitriolic negativity after the reveal. By all means, it may not be for you but come on, just ignore it in that case! Makes me want the whole show dedicated to Bugsnax. 

[Fierce_LiNk]

1 hour ago, Ashley said:

The latter please.

Was reading an interview with the devs in Wireframe and apparently they received some vitriolic negativity after the reveal. By all means, it may not be for you but come on, just ignore it in that case! Makes me want the whole show dedicated to Bugsnax. 

It's got an annoyingly catchy theme tune.

Bugsnax is the hero that 2020 needs. 

[Ashley]

I was listening to that song while posting.

[Will]

I do wonder if Bugsnax is going to be one of those things that is so bad it’s great.

Personally I think it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen, but it’s still more compelling than anything on the new Xbox.

[Happenstance]

I think they’ve managed to sell loads of people on charm alone. It may fall apart when people actually play it but for now they’ve done a great job creating buzz for an unknown.

[Sheikah]

So this is them saying price won't be announced? Seems strange, if you want people to not preorder an Xbox then you should really be telling them the price of your console before Xbox preorders go live. Unless the PS5 is going to be more expensive.

[bob]

So this is them saying price won't be announced? Seems strange, if you want people to not preorder an Xbox then you should really be telling them the price of your console before Xbox preorders go live. Unless the PS5 is going to be more expensive.

It's definitely going to be more expensive, otherwise they would have just announced the price point by now.

They're trying to remind everyone about all the games that will be available first, so when they announce the price point they can go, yes it is pricey pointy, but what about them games?

[drahkon]

4 minutes ago, Sheikah said:

So this is them saying price won't be announced? Seems strange, if you want people to not preorder an Xbox then you should really be telling them the price of your console before Xbox preorders go live. Unless the PS5 is going to be more expensive.

This is a fake and was meant as a joke.

[Sheikah]

This is a fake and was meant as a joke.

You're a fake.

[drahkon]

Just now, Sheikah said:

You're a fake.

 

[Sheikah]

 

Well played, pretty sure you tricked me and Ronnie at least. [emoji14]

[drahkon]

12 minutes ago, Sheikah said:

Well played, pretty sure you tricked me and Ronnie at least.

Can't take credit for the picture. I just posted it here
I thought it was obvious that it's a joke, though But you never know with arrogant Sony.

[Sheikah]

Can't take credit for the picture. I just posted it here [emoji14]
I thought it was obvious that it's a joke, though [emoji3] But you never know with arrogant Sony.

I'm pretty sure they have actually said that before though at other events (that there'll be no new PS5 news).

[Julius]

3 minutes ago, Sheikah said:

30 minutes ago, drahkon said:

Can't take credit for the picture. I just posted it here
I thought it was obvious that it's a joke, though But you never know with arrogant Sony.

I'm pretty sure they have actually said that before though at other events (that there'll be no new PS5 news).

Yeah they mentioned it last week as part of PSVR week, that's where it came from 

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And as mentioned, this is all about the games. So to manage expectations, there’ll be no PS5-related news.

Am I the only one that finds it kind of funny they then dropped the PS5 Showcase date and time as early as they feasibly could on Saturday? Would've been been first thing at like 06:00 in LA  think I even saw some journalists complaining about it, can't remember who though

[Cookyman]

6 hours ago, Fierce_LiNk said:

It's got an annoyingly catchy theme tune.

"Ooooh Oh, Talking bout Bug Snax"

PS+ surely?

I'm hoping that Last of us 2: Factions is a launch title!

[drahkon]

2 million views for a showcase trailer. Insane.

Getting more and more excited

[Goron_3]

Could be placeholder prices but there are images on resetera of a Spanish retailer having prices of €399/499 on their systems as of this morning for the DE and regular PS5 respectively.

[drahkon]

4 minutes ago, Goron_3 said:

Could be placeholder prices but there are images on resetera of a Spanish retailer having prices of €399/499 on their systems as of this morning for the DE and regular PS5 respectively.

Yeah, these prices have been rumoured for a long time now. I'm confident that this will be it.

[Julius]

14 minutes ago, Goron_3 said:

Could be placeholder prices but there are images on resetera of a Spanish retailer having prices of €399/499 on their systems as of this morning for the DE and regular PS5 respectively.

I'm curious to see if it's a 1:1 across the board, or if it's going to end up being say £449 in the UK as opposed to £499, just considering how Xbox has priced their next gen consoles in the UK. 

Not convinced they need to do that to be honest, but just interested to see how it plays out  

[Rummy]

18 minutes ago, Julius said:

I'm curious to see if it's a 1:1 across the board, or if it's going to end up being say £449 in the UK as opposed to £499, just considering how Xbox has priced their next gen consoles in the UK. 

Not convinced they need to do that to be honest, but just interested to see how it plays out  

Tbh I doubt 1:1 with Brexit turmoils atm - this is a console launch and its very difficult to 'up' a launch price - but surely any shifts in potential GBP values and possible losses as a result will get factored in?

[Will]

There will be a few things that play into the pricing differences. Probably the biggest one will be Microsoft will work prices out with USD as a starting point whereas Sony will do it based on JPY. I don’t know what the various currencies are doing compared to each other at the moment but somebody could probably look into that and come out with a pretty decent guess as to what that likely ends up as.

Secondly they will have internal exchange rates set at the start of the year based on a rough idea of what they think each currency will do over the course of the FY, and all internal accounting will be done using that rate. Similarly someone could take a look at what the rates were around the start of the year to make an educated guess on what those look like and how they might impact it. They won’t actually move around cash until it’s advantageous for them to do so, so fluctuating rates day to day don’t make much of a difference.

Thirdly, they will be taking into account what the competition is doing. If you’re rates are all beautifully worked out but it means you have a massive price disadvantage in one country then it really is no good. Based on this alone I’d guess they will probably have similar pricing splits across regions to what Microsoft has done.

My personal thoughts on the pricing are still $399/$299, but I could easily see those both being $100 more. I think they will go with one of three ways of announcing it.

1. If they have similar pricing to Xbox they will announce the pricing at the start of the event and the show will be to demonstrate that it’s the same money but you actually have some games to play on a PS5.
2. If they have lower pricing they will show all the games, say how amazing it is as a console then mic drop the price right at the end of the show as the killer moment.
3. If they have higher pricing they won’t announce any price, show how awesome the games are and then let people build hype for the console and drop the price as close to launch as possible.

More than likely I’ll be completely wrong on that, but gotta put down a guess at least!

[Rummy]

How much reeqlly IS the Xbox competing afainst PS5 these days compared to old tho? Are many people here weighing up a toss of either or or do they already know ecosystem they wanna be a part of? Sony have me just because Sony have me! Microsoft don't.

Re: price I thought I read build bill of mats was something akin to $450? presume for disc version? cant see it getting too crazier below the $350-500 region for US market tbh but I am guessing with very little data.