Cube Posted August 22, 2013 Author Posted August 22, 2013 Stop with the troll/lol/who cares comments, please.
Daft Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Stop with the troll/lol/who cares comments, please. looooooooooooooool
Shorty Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Ah Daft I'm glad we can always count on you to bring it down a peg or two when the average maturity level of a thread is getting too high.
Shorty Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Ah sorry, it was a joke? "Stop with the lol", "looooooool". Haha. I just didn't get it at first. My bad.
dwarf Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 The maturity level was getting high? More like you're getting high Shorty, owwwhhhhh! Seriously though, can we nip the fascism in the bud please? Freedom of expression and all that.
Jimbob Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Just needed to add my 2 cents with controllers. From what i've seen of the PS4 controller, it looks more comfortable to hold compared to the PS3/2/One controllers. The chap i spoke to said it was more comfortable to hold than the earlier PS controllers. The X360 controller is one of, if not the best controller i've used. The WiiU Pro pad feels the same as the 360 controller (in my opinion). As i mentioned, i wasn't allowed to sample the PS4 controller feel for myself, so i can't confirm what the chap said.
Debug Mode Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Looks like the Xbox One pre-orders on Amazon shot up for Europe. They made a pretty smart move with bundling it with the Day One edition, but I think it's going to be futile in the long run as I can't see Europe swaying away from Sony for a good while. So, this has probably been raised a million times all ready, but how long do you think it's going to be before Microsoft launch a Kinect-less SKU? When they originally did their 180 degree turn around, I thought it wouldn't be too long before they get rid of the Kinect from the box but now I'm not so sure if it's going to happen before launch. One thing I'm sure about though is that it's probably going to happen within a year after launch if the situation is looking bad as bad as I'm expecting it to be. People just do not sound happy about the fact they're paying a significant amount more for a console because the camera, which they don't want to use, is being forcefully included. And the image of the camera gets even worse when the console doesn't even require it any more.
Happenstance Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Theories I have heard is that we could maybe see a Kinectless SKU around April time, let them get all the money they can from the people interested enough to just buy the current bundle. I also assumed that we would get another announcement soon about a Kinectless SKU for launch but listening to the Giant Bombcast yesterday they brought up a good point that doing that would probably mess up preorders too much.
Daft Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 They won't do it. They'll take a price cut before they get rid of the Kinect. They are trying to Trojan Horse it into living rooms.
Cube Posted August 23, 2013 Author Posted August 23, 2013 If they released a non-Kinect version, they'll be admitting. - Kinect isn't really that good. - It's not useful for gaming. - The non-gaming features it provides are not all that interesting. Reversing all the DRM stuff makes sense, but removing a major component (as Kinect is with the XBO, unlike the PS4 camera) does not.
Sheikah Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 I don't think they'll remove it. They see it as their baby and one of their main selling points.
Charlie Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 If they released a non-Kinect version, they'll be admitting. - Kinect isn't really that good. - It's not useful for gaming. - The non-gaming features it provides are not all that interesting. Reversing all the DRM stuff makes sense, but removing a major component (as Kinect is with the XBO, unlike the PS4 camera) does not. Or you could say that they have realised that some gamers don't want a Kinect and none of the above.
Daft Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Their end game is getting Kinect into homes, not simply selling to gamers.
Ashley Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 It would essentially be like Nintendo removing the GamePad from the Wii U. Whether or not you think they should, it would be too much of a back step that basically gives a vote of no confidence in their own USP.
Debug Mode Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Or you could say that they have realised that some gamers don't want a Kinect and none of the above. This is practically my response to those who are saying it's too much of the desired direction Microsoft wants to take for them to remove it from the packaging. I can see them more likely dropping the price initially. But after that, if no good recovery is seen, they're simply going to have to make a Kinect-less SKU. There's no point in making too big of a loss on something that might possibly be something completely unwanted by the market. And what happens with those products on the market that nobody wants? They inevitably vanish.
Cube Posted September 1, 2013 Author Posted September 1, 2013 A look at the interface when you press the "Guide" button. Apart from the speed, it's a colossal downgrade from the Xbox 360 and is one of the ugliest interfaces I've ever seen.
S.C.G Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 ^ Well that was underwhelming... does the Xbox One have anything good going for it atm?
MindFreak Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Why is that a major downgrade? Maybe it's just me but I use the Home for four things: Return to Xbox Home, see Achievements, see Active Downloads, and sometimes turn off console.
Sheikah Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 A look at the interface when you press the "Guide" button. Apart from the speed, it's a colossal downgrade from the Xbox 360 and is one of the ugliest interfaces I've ever seen. Ah...Microsoft's relentless campaign to give everything the Windows 8 layout. No thanks.
Jimbob Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Ah...Microsoft's relentless campaign to give everything the Windows 8 layout. No thanks. Which no-one wants. Microsoft even reversing that with 8.1. The interface is certainly heading in the wrong direction, looks like an early 360 design in beta.
Cube Posted September 1, 2013 Author Posted September 1, 2013 Why is that a major downgrade? Maybe it's just me but I use the Home for four things: Return to Xbox Home, see Achievements, see Active Downloads, and sometimes turn off console. It's not easy to explain, but it's to do with keeping what you were doing as the "full screen" application. In Windows, if I want to open an app like Notepad, I want to keep the current app in full view while I open it, which is why a small Start menu is better than a full-screen one (Windows 8). I just think the way the 360 guide handles stuff like achievements, messages and invites is better (as an overlay with the game still full screen) than the PS3, PS4 and Xbox One.
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