Daft Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Xbox One: Microsoft secures Tom Clancy’s The Division exclusive content GODDAMNIT MICROSOFT!!!
bryanee Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Xbox One: Microsoft secures Tom Clancy’s The Division exclusive content GODDAMNIT MICROSOFT!!! It'll be as pointless as the content Sony secures for AC every year. As for the free game being Fifa, who gives a damn? Its for pre-orders only for console that would of sold at launch anyway and the PS4 is still cheaper with Fifa and you could probably get PS+ with it for the same price. Maybe they would of been better served bundling something like Forza.
Charlie Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 I shows a real lack of confidence in their product. I share that lack of confidence. The console that sold the most amount of units of the previous generation gave away a free game too, remember? It doesn't show a lack of confidence at all. It's about giving extra value to the console to make more people choose it over the PS4.
Happenstance Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Its a good launch line up anyway for Xbox fans, I think its possibly missing a strong exclusive though to draw in other people. Dead Rising 3 is close but has never been that game that everyone wants.
Daft Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 The console that sold the most amount of units of the previous generation gave away a free game too, remember? It doesn't show a lack of confidence at all. It's about giving extra value to the console to make more people choose it over the PS4. I can't tell you you're wrong, but you're definitely not correct. Microsoft are worried about their pre-order numbers. It'll be as pointless as the content Sony secures for AC every year. As for the free game being Fifa, who gives a damn? Its for pre-orders only for console that would of sold at launch anyway and the PS4 is still cheaper with Fifa and you could probably get PS+ with it for the same price. Maybe they would of been better served bundling something like Forza. Yeah, I know. I'm not too bothered. Just wish these kind of exclusives would stop. All they do is piss off the customer...well, they piss me off.
Cube Posted August 20, 2013 Author Posted August 20, 2013 The only "exclusive content" I've seen which does seem to make some sense is the extra stuff for AC4, which brings content based on the Vita game.
Charlie Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 you could buy Fifa bundle on the ps4 and get a noticeably more powerful and equipped console for less. No one cares how powerful they are. Even though it's a different market, Apple has proved multiple times that the end consumer doesn't care about statistics. There's a great scene in Mad Men where I think Don Draper sees the advert for the VW Beetle for the first time and says "but where are all stats about the engine?" Think in the eyes of the consumer, the average person who is going to be buying the console, be it PS4 or XB One. All they care about is the games it can play and what their friends will be getting. Yeah the PS4 is cheaper, but in the long run the £40 difference if you're counting FIFA isn't a lot of money. Most people have their 'allegiances' already and £40, or even £80, isn't likely to sway them that much.
Sheikah Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 It's a good move to reverse some of the damage. Most people are casual gamers so will probably buy into this sort of promotion quite readily. However there's still a lot of people who do actually research before they buy/have a more than superficial interest in gaming that I think won't be swayed so easily by this. In terms of value, it's pretty clear that you're getting much more for your money with the PS4.
Daft Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Also, £40 is a fair chunk of money, let alone £80. Hell, even if it were only a £20 I'd say it would make a difference. The reason Microsoft have bundled FIFA in with pre-orders is because pre-orders are trending behind their expectations. I think it's a bit of a weak stunt because it's limited stock too (of a digital title), so who know how many people will actually get a copy. If I were Sony I'd just slap a PS Plus sticker on the box and say it came free with DriveClub: Plus Edition when you subscribe to Playstation Plus. Boom.
Fierce_LiNk Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 The console that sold the most amount of units of the previous generation gave away a free game too, remember? It doesn't show a lack of confidence at all. It's about giving extra value to the console to make more people choose it over the PS4. You're not looking at it the right way. The reason why that particular game (WiiSports) was bundled was because it was somewhere in between a tech demo for the game and a "full" game in itself. Nintendo realised that very few people would pay full price for it, but they also recognised that the game did show off the features of the console, whilst it also brought whole families and friends together. Releasing it on its own would have been suicide. You can't really say, "Nintendo put a free game in there and they succeeded, so MS will succeed, too." FIFA is insanely popular, but it's not going to show off any new features of the console. Everything (I'm assuming here, because I don't pay attention to it any more) that FIFA can do on the One can also be accomplished on the PS4, right? So, it's not exactly the same in that sense as WiiSports, which was tailor-made for the Wii and showed off the exclusive features of that console. It had pulling power from the off. Sure, it's nice to get a free game with the system, but there's a bit more to it than that. The launch prices, timings, launch line-up will also come into play. What if Sony end up bundling a game in with their system? If it's an exclusive, it'll also have more pulling power. I would also argue that it does show a lack of confidence. The confident thing would be for MS to bundle in one of their own exclusive games. It's a statement of intent. "You can't get this game anywhere else."
dwarf Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 I thought a Fifa 14 bundle was an ingenious move at first, but the people who care about Fifa and the seasons and all that shit will have already bought it for their Ps3/360 a month prior to the next gen releases.
flameboy Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 I thought a Fifa 14 bundle was an ingenious move at first, but the people who care about Fifa and the seasons and all that shit will have already bought it for their Ps3/360 a month prior to the next gen releases. I dunno I am huge FIFA fan and holding off till next gen and possibly even wait till 15 on PS4.
dwarf Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Schools and universities are buzzing with students who get the thing day 1 because they care about the latest transfers and additions to the game. It's like renewing a membership except it's much more exciting, most of them won't wait a month or more.
Aneres11 Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 I've been thinking to the end of the year when the PS4 / XBONE will be released and am kinda torn at the min over which I would like to buy - and when I would like to buy. Also, do I even want to buy. I am obviously a Nintendo gamer as for me, they make the better games which appeal more to my personal tastes, but as per the previous gen I'd like one of the other 2 for the titles the Wii U inevitably will not get. The PS4 appears to be much better value for money, but that controller... that damn hideous, awful controller. I just don't think I could do it. I hate the PS3 controller with a passion and really didn't enjoy playing games with it, so always bought multi platform games on my 360. The 360 controller is one of the best I've held (if not the best) so I'm already automatically drawn to XBONE just purely on that reason. Yes, it's that important in my decision making! I just wondered if anyone on the forums had already pre-ordered an XBONE and why they decided to go for it over the PS4. I know the console has had a lot of flack (and it would appear a lot of it was justified), but I'm guessing there are some who are looking forward to it? I'm gonna check out the launch games now and do some digging on the console itself so I can be more educated (also gonna do the same with PS4) but looking at the launch line up briefly it would appear the 360 has better selection than the ps4. But that's just my opinion. So anyone in XBONE camp care to share why they're choosing it over PS4?
Mokong Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 one to one control my ass.... I see the characters on screen kicking but the "Players" just randomly punching Was wondering if teh camera would turn around to show two people playing the game with controllers behind them
Cookyman Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 So I guess the question is - has anybody on this forum actually preordered an XBONE yet?
Zechs Merquise Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 So I guess the question is - has anybody on this forum actually preordered an XBONE yet? I think despite both platforms having strong launch line-ups (I would say the XBO has a stronger one actually as it has better looking exclusives), I can't see anyone pre-ordering the XBO over the PS4! That may seem strange as I believe the XBO has a marginally stronger line-up, but the strongest games on both systems, COD, BF, NFS, FIFA, AC etc are all multiplatform. For the average guy who wants their next gen does of those games, where are you going to go? XBO with an extra hundred quid on top, or PS4 which is cheaper and doesn't have the negative 'cloud' of publicity (see what I did there )
Charlie Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 I've been thinking to the end of the year when the PS4 / XBONE will be released and am kinda torn at the min over which I would like to buy - and when I would like to buy. Also, do I even want to buy. I am obviously a Nintendo gamer as for me, they make the better games which appeal more to my personal tastes, but as per the previous gen I'd like one of the other 2 for the titles the Wii U inevitably will not get. The PS4 appears to be much better value for money, but that controller... that damn hideous, awful controller. I just don't think I could do it. I hate the PS3 controller with a passion and really didn't enjoy playing games with it, so always bought multi platform games on my 360. The 360 controller is one of the best I've held (if not the best) so I'm already automatically drawn to XBONE just purely on that reason. Yes, it's that important in my decision making! I just wondered if anyone on the forums had already pre-ordered an XBONE and why they decided to go for it over the PS4. I know the console has had a lot of flack (and it would appear a lot of it was justified), but I'm guessing there are some who are looking forward to it? I'm gonna check out the launch games now and do some digging on the console itself so I can be more educated (also gonna do the same with PS4) but looking at the launch line up briefly it would appear the 360 has better selection than the ps4. But that's just my opinion. So anyone in XBONE camp care to share why they're choosing it over PS4? I'm with you, really don't like the PS3 controller, it's far too small and the joystick is in the wrong place. You're going to put some serious hours into this thing. Get the one with the controller you like. I'm not buying one straight away purely because I don't really play games otehr than COD anymore. Going to wait until a hopeful price drop next year and I'll be getting the One over the PS4. Why? Always had an Xbox and my friends will all get the Xbox and because traditionally I played Halo, I want that option again.
Happenstance Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 If it helps people are raving about the PS4 controller now, most saying its better than the Xbox One's. Ive never really had issues with the PS3 pad but I can understand people that did. For the most part the 360 one was very nice, only let down by its original D-Pad before the redesign.
Aneres11 Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Well Zechs it's not quite that simple. Just because they both have the same multi play games and one is cheaper than the other doesn't make it a Sony win. There are other things to consider. For me that's the controller as I've already mentioned. The play station controller is lol. Also, I've bought more 360 exclusives than I have ps3 last gen. My Ps3 was a blu ray player for me last gen with the occasional game. Additionally, most of my mates will be choosing the xbone and I already have a gold love membership lasting into next year. I've checked out the launch games too and dead rising 3 looks so fuckin good. That's the kind of exclusive that makes me want to buy the console. There isn't that on the ps4 - yet. At the minute I'm definitely in the Xbox camp over the ps4. Just need to see if I want to buy one at launch or hold off a bit.
Charlie Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Well Zechs it's not quite that simple.Just because they both have the same multi play games and one is cheaper than the other doesn't make it a Sony win. There are other things to consider. For me that's the controller as I've already mentioned. The play station controller is lol. Also, I've bought more 360 exclusives than I have ps3 last gen. My Ps3 was a blu ray player for me last gen with the occasional game. Additionally, most of my mates will be choosing the xbone and I already have a gold love membership lasting into next year. I've checked out the launch games too and dead rising 3 looks so fuckin good. That's the kind of exclusive that makes me want to buy the console. There isn't that on the ps4 - yet. At the minute I'm definitely in the Xbox camp over the ps4. Just need to see if I want to buy one at launch or hold off a bit. That's such a great point(s) that so many people are glossing over. Price isn't everything and you're going to have this console for the next 5 years. I could save the £100 or whatever it is and buy a PS4, wouldn't enjoy it very much if all my friends bought the Xbox. Same the other way around.
Shorty Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 I feel like not pre-ordering either console is the best way to go :p for all we know the PS4 has a new YLOD or the Xbox One spontaneously combusts when you unplug Kinect. Both might drop in price right after Christmas and PS4 could come in a special bundle with Infamous 3. Or Xbox's new interface could work perfectly with UK cable providers, or not at all. PS4/Vita remote play might be a pipe dream or their quick join features might be way slower than they've illustrated. I'm looking forward to all of you guys getting these consoles and reviewing them so I know where to spend my money :p
Sheikah Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 You haven't even held the PS4 controller to make the call yet. Also remember in terms of longevity what the 360's fail rate was like. If you're looking to buy a console that will last at least 5 years, I wouldn't hedge my bet on the One.
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