Rowan Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Glad if true (keeps Sony on their feet so that they don't get complacent). But it sort of shows a lack of leadership and belief from Microsoft in their own policies.
Jimbob Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Showing that even Microsoft believe their own policies are complete bull crap. I made my mind up, i'm still not getting an Xbox One. They've revealed to me that they are complete morons.
Dante Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Information will told soon but this doesn't change my mind about not getting it. Edited June 19, 2013 by Dante
Jimbob Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 How can anyone trust Microsoft now, they revealed a policy no-one liked. They reverse the policy to bring in the orders, what is to stop them sneaking them back in at a later date.
Dante Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Details now up. Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience. For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future. Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One. You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world. So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means: •An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360. •Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360. In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions. These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray. We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds. Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
Ashley Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 We designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future. tl;dr "We had great ideas, but you don't want them you idiots" Microsoft is bound to top every 'PR mistakes of 2013' list.
Dcubed Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Great news. The most embarrassing defeat in all of video gaming history Still wont buy an Xbone though, out of principle alone. Having the region lock removed is a surprise though and a welcome gesture (hope you're watching Nintendo!), but it is still too little too late. They're not getting a penny out of me.
Daft Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 The past few weeks have made me really hate Microsoft, with a fiery passion. This changes nothing for me. They're corporate to an absolutely vile degree.
Jimbob Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I made my decision at E3, the final straw which made me not want a One was the Kinect and the price. That is still the case today, sorry chaps. The One is not for me and it won't be for me. It's good to see Microsoft have put their heads in their laps and walked out embarrassed.
Serebii Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Details now up. That post is so passive aggressive...I can't believe that they worded it the way they did. Actually surprised that they have removed it, considering how stubbornly they defended it at E3
Serebii Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I bet EA is pissed that they hastily removed their online pass system now :p
gaggle64 Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I'll bet everyone here a bottle of scotch that both Sony & MS will have all but totally throttled boxed retail sales of anything by the end of this coming gen. Probably Nintendo too.
Serebii Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Turns out that this is only possible by downloading a Day One patch. You need to connect to the internet when setting up the console in order to not have to connect to the internet http://kotaku.com/surprise-xbox-one-drm-reversal-requires-day-one-patch-514419715?rev=1371676969&utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow
-Dem0- Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) They can't even retract properly. This is just so stupid. How did Microsoft get their initial plans for the Xbox One so wrong? "We believe a lot in this digital future," Whitten said. "We believe it builds an amazing experience—the ability to have a broader sharing platform and my content coming with me, [but] what we heard is people still wanted more choice… they wanted the familiarity of the physical disc." You can still accomplish those goals without used game DRM. It's just so stupid. Something so basic is so hard for them. Actually I shouldn't be surprised. This is coming from the company (via Mattrick) that said backwards compatibility is backwards... Edited June 19, 2013 by -Dem0- Automerged Doublepost
dwarf Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 It's the right move, probably their only move. In the eyes of gamers the damage has already been done, but I think it's going to be a much more competitive system now.
Helmsly Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Quite amazed that they made this move so fast. I guess this online activation stuff wasn't so intrinsic to the Xbone One as they seem to suggest after all.
Dcubed Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Quite amazed that they made this move so fast. I guess this online activation stuff wasn't so intrinsic to the Xbone One as they seem to suggest after all. Yup. This is pretty funny in light of their cloud powered gaming BS. Gonna be funny to watch them spin that yarn around
khilafah Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 great news!! once the price goes down in 2014 I am back on the xbox train. Certain publishers gave MS some bad advice.
Mokong Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I wonder if they consulted EA first.... Bet thry are so upset now haha
Dante Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I wonder if they consulted EA first.... Bet thry are so upset now haha Afew days ago this news came up; “EA has a position of looking at used games from a user standpoint and a gamer standpoint,” he said. “We will definitely be looking at gamer-first and creating an opportunity to have a relationship with used games such that it’s a positive experience.” The company plans to release its games policy within the next couple of weeks, Gibeau said in a separate interview, and it will take into account things like its own now-abandoned attempt to restrict disc game resales called Online Pass, which did not do well with consumers. “The policy we do come out with will have that in mind,” he said, and it will likely be the same policy across all its console games. “A nuanced and sophisticated approach is important instead of a blunt instrument.”
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