Cube Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 I think people need to learn that Tweeting and posting on people's Facebook walls are not private at all. And that most companies have alerts/searches set up for when you say the company name.
Sheikah Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 No it isn't. The comparison can't be made. Twitter is a point of broadcast with no limit. ShopTo and its consumers, as well as this tool, exist within the same digital space. In a public place any of those people could be there too. This is basically the opposite of what I believe in. Punishing people for expressing unhappiness with a company (even colourfully), not in a personal/harassing way and not even to them. You don't compete well and people will bitch. Deal with the cause and not the effects. I think people need to learn that Tweeting and posting on people's Facebook walls are not private at all. And that most companies have alerts/searches set up for when you say the company name. The privacy isn't the issue. It's that they should never have reacted that way in the first place. At least they admitted fault. i suppose its more akin to being in say GAME and having a problem with the service, then while the assistant is doing something, turning to your mate and saying "man GAME can be so shit", which the employee then overhears and tells you to leave over because they don't stand for rudeness to staff an odd issue, it was a private conversation in a public place, about a company he wasn't having perfect service with. i'm honestly not sure where i stand on this situation, obviously previous post aside given the outcome, i'm not sure how it should be handled, as in the private messaging between him and shopto it looks like they were stalking his personal twitter feed. I see their response of using tweet deck and looking at any/all mentions of shopto, but then the same rep had to have been looking out for this guys name or its just a huge coincidence, but still begs a question of if the representative was meant to be helping this guy out, why was he at the same time monitoring tweets about shopto, that didn't include the @ symbol to direct them to him. Dodgy on all fronts, so i think it would have been best just ignoring it originally, or just reinstating his pre-order Close, but at least in that comparison the GAME staff could have overheard it without actively going out of his way. Either way, I find it really unlikely he'd have cancelled your order and banned you from the shop.
bryanee Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 The first PS4 advert shown on US TV. I've never been a fan of Sony's console launch adverts (come on man, the PS2 ad had a fucking duck) but I liked this one.
Daft Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 That was the most bromoerotic ad I've ever seen. Good job.
Jimbob Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 GAME in Cardiff had a PS4 on display behind the counter, right next to a PS3. Looks smaller than i'd invisioned it would be. But now it teases me when i wander in the store on the way home some nights.
Daft Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Yup, they had one in Camden, too. It's ridiculously thin.
Rowan Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Bargain from Zavvi... Probably still worth it:p
Jimbob Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I'll take 3. 3, at that price. I've ordered 5.
Daft Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 PS4 games available for digital pre-order via PS3 Warframe GET!
Daft Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Flower, flOw, Escape Plan, Sound Shapes added to PS4 launch line-up Will be free for existing owners. Nice. Was actually going to grab Flower again. Now I get Flower, Escape Plan and Sound Shapes to add to my PS4 library. I haven't even got the console and along with Drive Club, Resogun and Warframe I've got a crap load of games to play. Score.
dazzybee Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 How do people feel about the launch line up? I'm still constantly to-ing and fro-ing about the consoles. But, and I'm not here to stoke fires (feel I need that disclaimer with the defensive types here), but is seems like a really really weak lineup; I almost want to say one of the weakest lineups I can remember; and wondered what others who have already ordered felt about it. I'd never get one, and in the long run the ps4 will have immense games, but even the xbox one's feels a touch stronger. No one seems to have spoken much about it, but I don't se what there is at launch of absolute real quality. Kill Zone has potential and could pull it out of the bag, but they're usually only pretty good.
bryanee Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I think its a really solid line up. Killzone Drive Club Knack ACIV BF4 Lego Marvel COD: Ghosts NFS All the sports crap I wont buy Shit tonne of free to play titles and downloadable games. I actually think its one of the best line ups in quite some time. I'd put the XBone and PS4 line ups as equal right now.
Daft Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) These are all the games that will be available launch day. Retail Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag Battlefield 4 Call of Duty: Ghosts DriveClub FIFA 14 Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition Just Dance 2014 Killzone Shadow Fall Knack LEGO Marvel Super Heroes Madden NFL 25 NBA 2K14/NBA Live 14 Retail Need for Speed: Rivals Skylanders Swap Force PSN Contrast DiveKick Escape Plan (Cross-Buy) flOw (Cross-Buy) Flower (Cross-Buy) Minecraft Pinball Arcade Putty Squad Resogun Sound Shapes (Cross-Buy) Super Motherload Switch Galaxy Ultra Tiny Brains F2P Warframe War Thunder DC Universe Online Blacklight: Retribution Pack-in PlayRoom I've never seen a better launch line-up. The ones in orange I'm getting without a doubt. Others like AC4, Injustice and Tiny Brains I'll almost definitely pick up. Not really sure how anyone could be disappointed by it but horses for courses and all that. And for comparison, the Xbox One line up. Which I think is lacking. Edited October 16, 2013 by Daft
Sheikah Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I think my problem is that I'm just quite picky despite having a lot of games. I'm sure a lot of the games will be enjoyable/good, but at the same time I don't expect them to blow me away. Plus I'd really like to see the Killzone mega bundle extended to include different games as they release, like Infamous.
dazzybee Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Yeah I guess it's not the volume. Most of them are out for other consoles we all already own. Why would people spend £400 to play a prettier cod (some will but not many). Seems to be drive club, kill zone, knack and resogun as the decent lanch titles. Drive club is an unknown and can say Forza is a much more attractive proposition, kill zone has never been great (but always decent), knack looks (and by all accounts) is average and resogun is the only one that looks great but is a smaller title you wouldn't want to spunk loads of money on. So I'd say Forza wins over drive club, ryse (as a new interesting IP) wins over kill zone, dead rising 3 wins over knack and killer instinct v resogun. Tricky. Nostalgia says killer instinct, my brain says resign.
dwarf Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 So I'd say Forza wins over drive club, ryse (as a new interesting IP) wins over kill zone, dead rising 3 wins over knack and killer instinct v resogun. Tricky. Nostalgia says killer instinct, my brain says resign. The launch line-up doesn't do much for me either but pipe down a moment! For one those comparisons are all stupid and arbitrarily paired off, and furthermore: Ryse over Killzone? No. Ryse is a QTE broth. ResoGun is THE launch title every PS4 owner might as well have. It's bound to be a great arcade game. Stardust still features in all best-of-PSN lists. Knack snuggles into that lineup quite nicely, it's positioned well.
Cube Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 ResoGun is THE launch title every PS4 owner might as well have. Well, it is free on PS+ and the console comes with a two week PS+ trial. As for those comparisons, Drive Club wins because it's not a simulator, Killzone ia a new franchise for me and looks much more interesting than Ryse, and I hated almost everything about Dead Rising 2, Knacks looks a bit simple, but fun (although I feel it's a big candidate for PS+ after 6 months).
Happenstance Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Big rumour going around at the moment that Drive Club isnt going to be ready for the launch
The Bard Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) They can't really afford that. With both Drive Club and Watch Dogs out of the launch picture, the choices for people looking for new experiences are depressingly scant. Edited October 16, 2013 by The Bard
Cube Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Not to mention PS+. If it was delayed, I think they'd have to swap it for the full version of Kanck in order to avoid bad publicity. Unless it's still very close and they can still release the PS+ edition minus some features (along the tracks and cars they've mentioned), then add them in when the game is released.
Daft Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 I hope it's not delayed but really, what are you going to do? In the short term it's annoying but in the long term it's better for the game. Also give it a wide berth from GT6 and Forza 5, which would really benefit it.
dazzybee Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 The launch line-up doesn't do much for me either but pipe down a moment! For one those comparisons are all stupid and arbitrarily paired off, and furthermore: Ryse over Killzone? No. Ryse is a QTE broth. ResoGun is THE launch title every PS4 owner might as well have. It's bound to be a great arcade game. Stardust still features in all best-of-PSN lists. Knack snuggles into that lineup quite nicely, it's positioned well. So you call me stupid for making the comparisons but then do exactly the same thing... And then everyone follows but as they're kind to ps4 that's okay...?! To be honest, Resogun is the only game out of the lot that really appeals to me, I was speaking objectively (as possible). And now without drive club, if true, really makes it even weaker. I really think the new consoles could struggle.
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