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18 minutes ago, bob said:

The community notes for that tweet seem to suggest otherwise.

Yep, definitely appreciate Pemberton weighing in. 

Guess we'll just need to wait and see how it all shapes up. 

The film's production hasn't been the cleanest as it is and it's without a release date as things stand, I think before this the latest update we had last month (?) was that voice recording was due to begin in the next few months, so a late 2025 or someone in the first half of 2026 seems reasonable to hope for to me. 

Which feels forever away, but I'll gladly wait for this :D

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Wasn’t it written like Infinity War and Endgame, so essentially one story split into two? That’s the only reason there was originally only going to be a year between releases. 
 

Obviously it was delayed due to more time needed to actually animate the damn thing but to think that it could mostly be scrapped for “creative reasons” seems entirely unbelievable, when it must have been more or less set in stone. 
 

Then again this is Sony…

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After the ends-credit sequence from Deadpool, I found myself wanting to watch through all the X-men films again, so that's what i've been doing. I will preface these opinions with the info that I have never read an X-men comic, or watched the cartoons or anything.

X-Men (2000)

This one always used to be one of my favourite films. I think however, that there is a fair amount of nostalgia behind those feelings. Watching it back now, and it hasn't aged as well as other films in the franchise. It is far more camp than the other films, and there are a lot more vague unexplained things in it (like Magneto just happens to have a magic machine that converts humans to mutants, powered by his own magnetism? Where did that come from, did he invent it? It's never explained.) 

It suffers from a lot of the hangovers from the crap superhero films of the 80s and 90s too. Like the incredibly cliched evil villain lair that Magneto is chilling in - a big cave high up on some cliffs?

Still, I enjoyed it a lot, and would mark it quite high up in the rankings.

 

X-Men 2 (2003)

Was my one of my favourite films as a kid, and still is now. I think it has aged incredibly well, and is probably in the top 10 Marvel films even now. Love it!

 

X-Men 3 - The Last Stand (2006)

I think that critics were a bit unfair on this film when it came out. I really don't think it is that bad, and looking back, I think it might actually be slightly better than X-men 1. The San Francisco bridge scene is just awesome.

 

X-men Origins: Wolverine (2009)

To be honest, before I started watching, i had forgotten that there were three Wolverine solo films. I didn't even realise until halfway through this one that The Wolverine was a separate film. I kept wondering when they were going to start the plot about him moving to Japan and fighting samurai. 

I get why this one was poorly received though. Right up until they reveal Deadpool, it's not that bad, but yeah they really went in a weird direction with that character. 

I think i see why they never made any other Origin films with other characters though (other than repeatedly making Wolverine ones). The X-men work best as a cast of multiple characters. On their own, they're a bit boring.

 

X-men: First Class (2011)

This one is great! I love the 1960's setting, and obviously McAvoy and Fassbender have a really great chemistry onscreen. Magneto hunting nazis at the beginning is great as well. 

However, the main thing that really de-railed any repeat viewing of this, is trying not to focus on how weird Fassbender's accent is, and how it gets gradually worse throughout the film, until at the end he's just talking with a straight up Irish accent, and nobody notices or cares...how did nobody on set say anything?

 

X-men: Days of Future Past (2014)

This one is also really good. I think it has one of the better plots considering it manages to interweave all of the old and new cast in a pretty cool way. 

I feel like there must be something in the X-men license that says if you make a film with Magneto in it, he has to lift something huge at some point in the film, because without fail he always starts lifting! In this one, he just picks up a stadium and plonks it over the white house. It's not really that necessary, but I suppose it is quite impressive.

 

 

That's all i've seen for now. I'll make my way through the four remaining films, and post my thoughts when i'm done.

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Well, I do apologize.

You see, I did not view the video itself at the time of posting the trailer, or what I just assumed was a trailer from the thumbnail. All I did was embed it.

However, the movie is in fact due for release next June, confirming it is coming out. There's a second part being shot as well, and a script is ready for a third movie to get underway, which I will assume is to round off a new trilogy of sorts.

 

 

 

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Continuing my re-watch of all the X-Men films with - 

The Wolverine (2013)

Yeah, so this one I forgot about, and I can see why. It's very forgettable. I really don't see why they keep making solo films about Wolverine. I get that he's a fan favourite, but I really don't think he's interesting enough to carry a film on his own, let alone 3. 

This one they really needed some more exposition early on, especially regarding the villains. It was never really stated how they steal powers, they just do apparently. And the Snake woman was very underdeveloped - I get that she was hired by the Japanese guy, but other than that, why was she so evil? She seems to stick around and fight at the end even when it wasn't really stated why she was so invested.

I think this is definitely the worst of the 3 Wolverine solo films, and possibly my least favourite of all of the films total.

 

X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)

I didn't think one was that bad. It has some terrible lines in it - and it's weird how they tried to make Mystique the inspirational leader of the X-Men, but i guess it does make sense given her actions in Days of Future Past that younger mutants would look up to her. 

I remember at the time thinking how stupid Apocalypse looked, but my opinions of his design has softened a little bit. It must be hard trying to make live action, comic accurate versions of characters that don't look stupid. I really like how his voice was sort of made up of multiple voices all on top of each other? Made sense since he had transferred his consciousness through many people, and it gave him a powerful, commanding air which was pretty cool. I don't really like that his powers were a bit nebulous - you were never really sure what he could do. I suppose it makes sense that he would have multiple powers, but i don't like it when they don't really lay out his abilities and keep it vague. Makes it hard to know how powerful he actually is.

One thing I love about the Fox X-Men films is that most of them (the ensemble ones) all keep using the X-Men main theme all the way through. It's such a badass theme that is instantly recognisable - I love that they haven't tried to change it up, and I really hope that if they make an MCU one, they'll keep the main theme the same (they won't, but I can hope). The worst part about MCU Spidey is that they got rid of the Elfman theme.

 

Logan (2017)

Oh look it's another film about Wolverine! For a change, they decided to actually make a good one this time. I enjoyed this one - the subplot of Charles Xavier having Alzheimer's/dementia was an interesting way to go. The whole theme of what happens to cool super-heroes when they get old and decrepit was one that was worth exploring - I kind of wish they'd had a few more X-Men turn up. Cyclops with macular degeneration? Mystique unable to control her shapeshifting? Storm just fucking cranky and miserable and just causing rain wherever she goes? That would be fun to explore.

The rest of the film was pretty good. I only have a few issues with it. The way they seemed to imply that the Wolverine clone was some sort of Cyborg (with cameras in his head), but then they just didn't explore that any further. Also, the new mutant kids were set up to be these insane weapons bred from birth to be fighting machines, but it was only really Laura who was any good in a fight. I kind of hope that there would be this awesome scene at the end of the kids fighting the soldiers at the end, but most of the other children were fairly useless. 

 

 

Only one real film left now - and one that i remember so little of, i genuinely can't tell if i've seen it before. I think I have because I have a vague recollection of Magneto attacking a helicopter in somewhere like Vietnam, but haven't seen that scene yet. I could be getting it mixed up with something else though.

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37 minutes ago, bob said:

X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)

I didn't think one was that bad. It has some terrible lines in it - and it's weird how they tried to make Mystique the inspirational leader of the X-Men...

I hated that they kept pushing her as a main character in these movies. She also clearly didn't care at all for the role in this movie (she was a big star at this point) and was there for the payday.

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