Ronnie Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I can't see why they'd make a Mario game like that It would look 'kewl' in 3D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 http://www.1up.com/news/super-mario-3ds-combines-galaxy-mario-64-e3 Following up on his revelation from yesterday where he vowed to try having it ready for release this year, Shigeru Miyamoto has now offered up some new details about the forthcoming Super Mario game for 3DS -- which will be on display at this year's E3. "It's a combination of Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario on N64," said Miyamoto in London today, Edge reports. "It won't convey the message if I talk to you today, but if you play it at E3 that will give you more understanding of what I'm talking about." He also reinforced that the system's 3D effect will have an impact on gameplay. He said, "For example, the floors floating in space: in 2D it's difficult to judge the distance, but in 3D it's really easy." Nintendo hasn't committed to releasing games that require 3D in the past. Considering his statement, that might continue to be the case with Mario 3DS. The 3D effect may simply make it easier to perceive depth in platforming sections as opposed to be a necessary element to traversing certain areas. Miyamoto confirmed speculation about the tail on the 'o' in Mario shown at GDC -- the Tanooki suit is making a return. "The tail you mentioned on the logo -- it's what you think it is," Miyamoto revealed. "You probably know what's going to happen using that character." And in case you were unsure if you should trust his claim that it'll be out this year, he laid it out simply: the game is "completely original, and coming this year." It's not actually that surprising; there traditionally hasn't been much of a gap between the release of Mario games in Japan and North America. The last handheld Mario game, New Super Mario Bros., came out in May 2006 and was actually available in the U.S. before Japan, as was the case with Super Mario Galaxy 2 and New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 It's "completely original" and yet it's combination of super mario galaxy and super mario 64 ok odd.. I hope that means it will have an AWESOME exploration aspect of 64 mixed with fantastic platforming in Galaxy. My dream game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drahkon Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 He also reinforced that the system's 3D effect will have an impact on gameplay. He said, "For example, the floors floating in space: in 2D it's difficult to judge the distance, but in 3D it's really easy." Making the game easier? If it does then: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
or else you will DIE Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 What's Miyamoto doing in London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Making the game easier? If it does then: I think he's over-selling the 3D and the effect it'll have on gameplay precision, just a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Falcon Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Making the game easier? If it does then... He means that determining how far an object is in the distance and thus how far you should push the stick/hold jump for is easier to judge. In theory, this should allow them to make a more taxing game since they can push for more from us as a player. As for combining Mario 64 and Galaxy... well that's all I need to know - merging 2 of my top 3 games ever = SOLD I suspect though, he's talking in terms of level design since even the most open levels on Galaxy were really quite linear. Although certain levels were set up for a particular star when you selected it, you didn't have to go after that particular one. You could go off exploring and come across a different one. And yes, Galaxy did have levels with Pink Lumas in that gave you choices, but it was always very obvious. Hopefully, this will add a bit more mystery and sense of exploration to levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 A mix of 64's large scale levels that let you explore coupled with Galaxy's gravity effects and transport system = Super Mario 3DS? I hope so. I'd love to see more levels like the Honeybee galaxy from Galaxy 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drahkon Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 He means that determining how far an object is in the distance and thus how far you should push the stick/hold jump for is easier to judge. In theory, this should allow them to make a more taxing game since they can push for more from us as a player. Good point. For once I'd like to experience a very difficult Mario game. Well, hope never dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekunando Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Good point. For once I'd like to experience a very difficult Mario game. Well, hope never dies. ..have you played the NES version of The Lost Levels..? I did it on the VC last year and it was just insane. It was, however, very satisfying to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflame Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I just hope for Galaxys physics/engine/controls with Marios explorable hub. (or rather a new hub in the style of the castle....lots of secrets to find!). I dont mind smaller levels if there is still a explorable main area. Not too bothered about the racoon suit really though, Id rather have new powerups of various sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazza Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Although the Mario Galaxy games are generally very good, the one thing I thought never proved its worth was running upside-down on the underside of planetoids. Never really got used to that or thought it was a good idea. So, if they made a more earthbound Mario game, with all the colour and variety of Galaxy, that'd be great (as long as it really doesn't have an odd camera angle, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflame Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 the one thing I thought never proved its worth was running upside-down on the underside of planetoids. hu :? Isn't the whole fun/saling point of mario galaxy the spherical gravity? Nothing wrong with not liking that, but I think your in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazza Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I don't mind being in the minority. I thought Galaxy's brilliance was its variety, colour and structure. The planetoids I can take or leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneres11 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) According to Miyamoto: "Super Mario on 3DS will use the system's gyro-sensor for control, according to Shigeru Miyamoto. The system's gyro-sensor will be used to control the game's camera, similar to how the right analogue stick is used on Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. "Sometimes people ask why the 3DS isn't double stick," Miyamoto told The Daily Telegraph. "One is normally used to control the camera, but having the gyro-sensor you can replace the analogue stick by moving the console, which is very intuitive." Nintendo recently revealed that Star Fox 64 3D will also use tilt control. Tilt control is a controversial feature on the 3DS, as tilting the system can distort the screen's 3D effect, possibly making the game difficult to see and play. While Super Mario on 3DS will take advantage of the hardware's gyro-sensor technology, Miyamoto said that StreetPass functionality likely won't be included, "unless a spectacular idea comes to mind"." http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a318197/mario-3ds-to-use-gyro-controls.html Hhhmm. Edited May 7, 2011 by Aneres11 Link added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drahkon Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 While Super Mario on 3DS will take advantage of the hardware's gyro-sensor technology, Miyamoto said that StreetPass functionality likely won't be included, Wonder how many developers will include it if Nintendo doesn't do it in one of the/the most anticipated game/s for the 3DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog-amoto Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Why does a console that has a 3D viewing sweet spot have a gyro sensor that requires you to move the console? Always puzzled me that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Can easily move the console around and still see the 3D though. I've never had an issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adthegreat Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Indeed, Face Raiders has always worked fine for me, even while turning around like a maniac. The only downside I see with those controls are that you could only really play it at home. It would be a bit strange to twist around in your seat in a train for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Holy shit that sounds unbelievably retarded. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burny Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I can imagine how camera control with the gyros might work and very well so. So, before we see how it is implemented, there is little point in condemning the idea. In any case however, a Mario Galaxy like automatic camera would be required for the "day-to-day" camera tasks. Nobody wants to go spinning on the spot like mad, because they're just in a particularly insane level and have to constantly adjust the camera. One possible solution I could imagine, would be replacing the freely controllable camera of Galaxy with tilting the 3DS. If the camera would pan accordingly if you only slightly tilted the 3DS and they could get it to work in a way, that reverting to the "default" position wouldn't undo the camera movement, that might be a magnificent workaround for a lacking second analog input. Unfortunately, that'd break the "sweet spot" for a moment. It might still be worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Nintendo recently revealed that Star Fox 64 3D will also use tilt control. Tilt control is a controversial feature on the 3DS, as tilting the system can distort the screen's 3D effect, possibly making the game difficult to see and play. NOOOOOOOOOO It had better be optional, I want my 3D to be uninterrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Falcon Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Moving the 3DS in line with your eyes isn't that bad... it's just a pain in the arse. Trying to play monkey ball with 3D on and using gyro controls was pointless though. It all depends on the level of input required by the player and how the thing has been designed. I rarely ever felt the need to touch the camera in either Galaxy game and I suspect it will be fine in this too. Map it to the d-pad and have done with it - that's what I say. Failing that, have rotating the camera on X and A or L and R depending on whether you want crouch on the face or shoulder buttons. Don't go shoehorning gyroscopic controls for things that don't need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksnowman Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I rarely ever felt the need to touch the camera in either Galaxy game and I suspect it will be fine in this too. Map it to the d-pad and have done with it - that's what I say. F I tweaked the camera constantly in the Galaxy games when allowed, but thats just me - I like to see around. They should bring back Lakitu as the camera man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Does anyone else move around using the camera stick in games? As in, you just hold forward on the analogue stick and move your character with the camera stick, thus constantly keeping them centered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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