Aimless Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Theoretically a PS3 and Vita setup can do everything the Wii U can. And more, actually, given the handheld's multitouch rather than resistive and is packing its own processing power. It's a bit of a moot point, though. Outside of system level functions — i.e. the successor to Remote Play, which will likely be expanded — you're unlikely to see anyone make serious use of the connectivity as the chances of someone owning both machines is such an edge case. It's possible you could see the Wii U functions of multi-format games being included as optional extras, but I wouldn't put money on it.
The Lillster Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Theoretically a PS3 and Vita setup can do everything the Wii U can. And more, actually, given the handheld's multitouch rather than resistive and is packing its own processing power. It's a bit of a moot point, though. Outside of system level functions — i.e. the successor to Remote Play, which will likely be expanded — you're unlikely to see anyone make serious use of the connectivity as the chances of someone owning both machines is such an edge case. It's possible you could see the Wii U functions of multi-format games being included as optional extras, but I wouldn't put money on it. It might have the capability to emulate some Wii U functions, but how good it is compared to the Wii U, will depend on lag. I never used Remote play because of the lag.
Aimless Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Input lag wouldn't be an issue as you could pair the Vita to the PS3 via Bluetooth just like a regular controller. Actual image latency might be more problematic, but nothing a decent codec couldn't fix; OnLive copes surprisingly well and that has more inherent latency than a localised solution. Ultimately it'll be more hassle than its worth to implement, though.
Cube Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 So, basically, they now want to turn it into a Wii U controller?
dwarf Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 I think it'll be as redundant as Aimless is suggesting. There's no logic in backing it as that type of controller, that type of connectivity; the cost/price is too high and ultimately Vita wasn't designed for that purpose. Nintendo do have a deft touch when it comes to flogging extra controllers and accessories without anybody noticing. It's an admirable business model.
Magnus Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 They've been very careful not to say whether or not it would be released outside Japan this year, so that's really not surprising at all.
Cube Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 aaaaand its been delayed til next year I don't think many people were expecting it this year anyway.
Pit-Jr Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 I kept reading about a late October release date. Wishful thinking on my part i guess.
Burny Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 So, basically, they now want to turn it into a Wii U controller? They probably won't bother for the reasons Aimless mentions. As this is Sony, they're still eager to let everyone know that they could replicate the WiiU's main novelty though. Although it's probably possible from a technical perspective, I'm not taking this serious until they start packing in a Vita with every PS3 sold.
dazzybee Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 Out next year? That's going to be seriously damaging! With 3DS price cut and trong ore Xmas software, they're going to be extremely far behind. Looking forward to it though, the PSP just never worked for me, hated it. But this looks awesome! As for Wii u replication, I'm with the moot point army. It's not about what is and isn't possible etc it's always about how it's implemented, the Wii u screen is completely embedded in the design philosophy of the machine, so all developers will use it. As a possible limited option for ps3/vita owners it just won't get used! Bt that'll be fine, Sony and ms will unveil their tablet controllers at next years e3 for their new machines
The Lillster Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 Out next year? That's going to be seriously damaging! With 3DS price cut and trong ore Xmas software, they're going to be extremely far behind. Looking forward to it though, the PSP just never worked for me, hated it. But this looks awesome! As for Wii u replication, I'm with the moot point army. It's not about what is and isn't possible etc it's always about how it's implemented, the Wii u screen is completely embedded in the design philosophy of the machine, so all developers will use it. As a possible limited option for ps3/vita owners it just won't get used! Bt that'll be fine, Sony and ms will unveil their tablet controllers at next years e3 for their new machines PSP has proven you don't need to be market leader to be successful. 10 year plan and all that jazz.
dwarf Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) Out next year? That's going to be seriously damaging! With 3DS price cut and trong ore Xmas software, they're going to be extremely far behind. Looking forward to it though, the PSP just never worked for me, hated it. But this looks awesome! As for Wii u replication, I'm with the moot point army. It's not about what is and isn't possible etc it's always about how it's implemented, the Wii u screen is completely embedded in the design philosophy of the machine, so all developers will use it. As a possible limited option for ps3/vita owners it just won't get used! Bt that'll be fine, Sony and ms will unveil their tablet controllers at next years e3 for their new machines Since the random timing of hardware iterations and the eroding definition of what a 'new console' actually is, don't you think the handheld market has ceased to be head-to-head competition? Both companies have different strategies, and the systems' similarities are deteriorating, they're barely substitutes to each other anymore, feature wise. It seems out of date to be assessing the release windows in that way, sure there is some sales cross-over but the times be a changing yo. Edited August 4, 2011 by dwarf
dazzybee Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 True, I don't doubt Vita will be more successful than the PSP too. I just expected Vita and 3DS to be much closer in sales and this software. Like I said the PSP software (barring a handful) didn't really do it for me, would like to see some really exciting software for Vita. Plus it was more just an observation than a critical attack. Still gutting though.
heroicjanitor Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 It can't be delayed if they never announced a release date, I expected it was next year but was quietly hoping for a Christmas release. Can't have everything
LegoMan1031 Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I think it was very strongly hinted that it was meant to be out the end of the year when it was revealed. I was in a GAME store only on wednesday and they had the signs up for it's pre-order due 'October 2011'. They and others must have got the release window from somewhere! Unless they were just 'hoping'. I was hoping as well, was going to consider asking for it as a xmas present!
heroicjanitor Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Shops always have a place-holder date though, and every time it gets people's hopes up. I'm pretty confident at this stage that they do in fact get it from nowhere :p
dwarf Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Plus it was more just an observation than a critical attack. I wasn't making a critical defence
dazzybee Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I wasn't making a critical defence Are we in an RPG?
Hero-of-Time Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 Is it just me or is the Vita starting to really look like a must have handheld? Sure, the features of the thing are great, but the amount of games being announced for it is amazing and shows developers are really on board with the platform. It already has a huge list of games that are coming our way, and now with TGS around the corner, another 18 are to be shown for the first time. Also, i'm not a fan of the game myself but the news of Persona 4 arriving on the platform is also a massive plus.
Aneres11 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Posted September 3, 2011 Is it just me or is the Vita starting to really look like a must have handheld? Sure, the features of the thing are great, but the amount of games being announced for it is amazing and shows developers are really on board with the platform. It already has a huge list of games that are coming our way, and now with TGS around the corner, another 18 are to be shown for the first time. Also, i'm not a fan of the game myself but the news of Persona 4 arriving on the platform is also a massive plus. I think I will definately be getting one (no doubt on launch), but I'm not sure if its going to be as good a 'handheld' experience as what Nintendo will be offering by the end of the year. I say this because as good as the games look - a lot of them are home console experiences on a handheld. And in the past, this hasn't really worked. I think that is part of the reason the original PSP didn't really rival the DS. I personally would rather play the new unchartered on a TV screen with a controller. Though, I hope it will surprise me and provide a great handheld experience too. Lets face it, the Vita is without doubt powerful enough to provide a home console experience on a handheld. Just hope i'm not left wishing I had a control pad to play the games with!
Dcubed Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 Is it just me or is the Vita starting to really look like a must have handheld? Sure, the features of the thing are great, but the amount of games being announced for it is amazing and shows developers are really on board with the platform. It already has a huge list of games that are coming our way, and now with TGS around the corner, another 18 are to be shown for the first time. Also, i'm not a fan of the game myself but the news of Persona 4 arriving on the platform is also a massive plus. No you're not. It's looking pretty fantastic so far, much more interesting than the PSP ever was to me! Mind you though, half of the stuff we've seen probably won't be coming out until around 9-12 months after launch so I wouldn't hold too much stock in the lineup just yet.
killer kirby Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 Is it just me or is the Vita starting to really look like a must have handheld? Sure, the features of the thing are great, but the amount of games being announced for it is amazing and shows developers are really on board with the platform. It already has a huge list of games that are coming our way, and now with TGS around the corner, another 18 are to be shown for the first time. Also, i'm not a fan of the game myself but the news of Persona 4 arriving on the platform is also a massive plus. I'll get the Vita like how I got my PSP...when I can get cfw on it. MH3P is a god send thanks to cfw for letting me have an english patch.
Grazza Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 Is it just me or is the Vita starting to really look like a must have handheld? Sure, the features of the thing are great, but the amount of games being announced for it is amazing and shows developers are really on board with the platform. I agree, it looks absolutely fantastic, a 10/10. It's the first games machine I've ever thought looked literally perfect. Graphics are as good as one could possibly want on a handheld at the moment, the screen is as big and high-res as is practical for one and there's no compromising with the controls. Every single button or stick you could want is there. Unlike you, I'm actually more excited about the hardware than the games at the moment. I want a Vita, but I don't know which games to buy!
The Bard Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 I'm gonna buy this for the same reason I bought a PSP like 3 times (and then sold it back to the store after I got bored): Wipeout. And shit, this time it'll even have gyroscopic controls, something that people say works really well with Wipeout HD on the PS3. Add Disgaea and FF: Tactics to the list, and you have something that amounts to at least a temporary purchace for me
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