danny Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 First ronnie briggs now Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi. What the hell is happeneing to the justice system? The guy was found guilty of playing a part in killing 270 people in the Lockerbie bombing. Why the hell should he get to spend the last days of his life with his family when he helped to rob so many people of there lives. There is a question as to his guilt but he was found guilty and he failed in an appeal so in my eyes unless he can prove his innocence he is guilty and should no way in hell be allowed free.
Dan_Dare Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 uh..dude, he's dying. The reason he's being 'released' is just to attend Ramadan in Libya. As it stands, a transfer to Libyan custody is as likely as release anyway. Probably more so.
danny Posted August 13, 2009 Author Posted August 13, 2009 uh..dude, he's dying. Yes i know that. But he played a part in killing 270 people. He obviasly had no compassion to kill a plane load of people, plus others on the ground. Why the hell should he get anything apart from a lonely death in prison?
Daft Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Tough shit. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Ashley Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Its cheaper and easier to release him than clean up after him when he's a corpse?
Oxigen_Waste Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Yes i know that. But he played a part in killing 270 people. He obviasly had no compassion to kill a plane load of people, plus others on the ground. Why the hell should he get anything apart from a lonely death in prison? Because the system isn't as ruthless as he is.
danny Posted August 13, 2009 Author Posted August 13, 2009 Its cheaper and easier to release him than clean up after him when he's a corpse? Well its even cheaper and easier just to not bother sending anyone to prison. Hardly a good reason to release a terrorist from prison.
Haden Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Wtf kills 270 people. He should die in prison surely... Have strong views on this stuff I am still getting over that everyone related in that Baby P fucked up scenario, including the guy who raped another kid as well as killing that baby aren't doing life.
EEVILMURRAY Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Tough shit. Can't do the time, don't do the crime. Exactly what we said with that Biggs chap. Wtf kills 270 people. He should die in prison surely... Have strong views on this stuff I am still getting over that everyone related in that Baby P fucked up scenario, including the guy who raped another kid as well as killing that baby aren't doing life. The thing that was weird after that Baby P crap was when they revealed the parents. They reminded me soooo much of a band who had played at work recently. http://www.wrathchildbethyname.co.uk/home.html Edited August 13, 2009 by EEVILMURRAY
Oxigen_Waste Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Exactly what we said with that Biggs chap. The thing that was weird after that Baby P crap was when they revealed the parents. They reminded me soooo much of a band who had played at work recently. http://www.wrathchildbethyname.co.uk/home.html ah ahahahahahahahaah
Jimbob Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Even though this dude did play a part in the killing of 270 people, in honest opinion he should remain behind bars. But on the other hand, he is terminally ill and dying. Its a tough choice to make, but that is 2 people being freed who are very ill/dying. As long as no people who are fully 100% healthy are being released, i don't mind.
Slaggis Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 There is a question as to his guilt but he was found guilty and he failed in an appeal so in my eyes unless he can prove his innocence he is guilty and should no way in hell be allowed free. So you're guilty until proven innocent? What total bollocks. But, what's the "question as to his guilt" about? But, if he did actually have a part in the killing of so many people, then as far as I'm concerned he should be locked up and left to die. Someone who performes such a crime deserves no sympathy whatsoever, whatever state they may be in.
MoogleViper Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 So you're guilty until proven innocent? What total bollocks. But, what's the "question as to his guilt" about? That's not what he was saying. He's saying that the courts found him guilty and then rejected his appeal. So in danny's eyes, he's going to agree with the court and say that he's guilty.
Slaggis Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 That's not what he was saying. He's saying that the courts found him guilty and then rejected his appeal. So in danny's eyes, he's going to agree with the court and say that he's guilty. But if there's doubt as to whether he was involved or not, why is he in prison in the first place? I thought you had to prove someones guilt beyond "reasonable doubt"?
MoogleViper Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 But if there's doubt as to whether he was involved or not, why is he in prison in the first place? I thought you had to prove someones guilt beyond "reasonable doubt"? Well I don't know about the question to his guilt. But he was found guilty in court so that means that it was proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Emasher Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 My opinion is a bit different this time. The Train Robber didn't physically harm anyone, as the train driver was injured by another member of the group. This case is a bit different though. The guy is responsible for the deaths of a large group of people so I think he should remain in prison.
Dyson Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Another thread about injustice from danny, shocker. Perhaps this should go in the "general news" thread..
ReZourceman Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Bitch should be locked in a room and left to suffer on his own sorry ass.
Haden Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Another thread about injustice from danny, shocker. Perhaps this should go in the "general news" thread.. Its a thread that has brought up issues and debate who cares if someone has a tendency to post certain types of threads. As long as its not a stupid amount per week its better than having everything in one or two general threads.
Wesley Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) He should be left to die in prison. Why should he be let to enjoy his last few days with his family when none of his victims did. If you're going to play the "Oh but I don't believe he did it." - which a lot of media has been doing. Then a retrials needs to happen. One or the other. I don't like the apathy towards this guy I'm hearing from the media. It seems that the fact he's dying and that the evidence is a bit dodgy equals "Meh let him free". It's either die in prison or a retrial. EDIT: And yeah I'm aware that some appeal was happening as of last year. Edited August 13, 2009 by Wesley
Iun Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Jeez... on the one hand, he's still technically a human being. On the other hand, he's not really a human being.
danny Posted August 14, 2009 Author Posted August 14, 2009 But if there's doubt as to whether he was involved or not, why is he in prison in the first place? I thought you had to prove someones guilt beyond "reasonable doubt"? It was proved beyond reasonable doubt that he was involved. But the question is how involved as they think the regime in Libya had a much larger role and he was a bit of a scape goat. But he still played his part. As for guilty until proved innocent isnt that the case once you have been found guilty in a court of law. I thaught once you were found guilty it was up to you to prove your innocence?
BlueStar Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 It was proved beyond reasonable doubt that he was involved. But the question is how involved as they think the regime in Libya had a much larger role and he was a bit of a scape goat. I thought it was more a case of Iran possibly being behind it as an act of revenge for the US blowing up an Iranian passenger plane and Libya agreeing to take the rap for them and sending some patsy over to do the time.
danny Posted August 20, 2009 Author Posted August 20, 2009 Well they let him out. In my opinion a bad day for justice in the UK. He should have died in prison.
Sheikah Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 uh..dude, he's dying. Wtf...am I missing something? He took part part in the deaths of 270 people and we somehow think he deserves dignity in death?
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