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Is this the end of PES?

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"The 2018 UEFA Champions League final in Kyiv will mark the end of a very successful and fruitful 10-year partnership between Konami and the UEFA Champions League."

 

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7 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Is this the end of PES?

 

If the license goes to EA then surely it will be, which is a shame as IMO since 16' PES has been a much better game of football.

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57 minutes ago, Hero-of-Time said:

Is this the end of PES?

Aww shucks.

I grew up on PES as opposed you FIFA, and I used to adore it. After getting custom kits and ground names out of the way (never knew how to patch stuff in when I was playing them, as I was considerably younger), I’d spend hundreds of hours in Master League with my own completely customised team winning every trophy out there, and I spent plenty of time in Become A Legend as an Italian with an English surname. Those were some fun times. The game’s also had some great cutscenes (be it in the background or foreground), such as being able to see your players in training as you skipped ahead on the calendar. There was also an excellent Owner mode in 12, if I recall correctly, which allowed you to bring in new managers, sanction big signings, etc. 

I think the last one I played was 13, which is when I made the swap over to FIFA; seeing how transfers were much more accurate to how they are in real life, and the licensed kits, really won me over (even if the players were oddly proportioned and their kit numbers abnormally large).

53 minutes ago, Kaepora_Gaebora said:

If the license goes to EA then surely it will be, which is a shame as IMO since 16' PES has been a much better game of football.

In my mind I always built it up as UEFA not wanting anything to do with FIFA, but those days are long gone with Blatter and Platini out of the way. It’d be interesting to see the official licensing make its way over to FIFA, but they haven’t even managed to incorporate the Club World Cup (if I recall correctly, even PES has had  a version of that - and official rights to the Copa Libertadores) into the game at this point, so it’d be interesting to see how they coped with it.

It’d be a shame for Konami - and for everyone who plays these games, because there’s no other substantial competition for FIFA around these days - but they’ve been in what seems like freefall since everything came to light a few years back. 

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1 hour ago, Kaepora_Gaebora said:

If the license goes to EA then surely it will be, which is a shame as IMO since 16' PES has been a much better game of football.

Konami were undoubtedly the king of football games during the late 90s and early 00s with ISS and ISS Pro, which became Pro Evolution Soccer. The franchise obviously had a difficult transition into the HD era though we got some fantastic Wii entries during this time :hehe:

The change of gameplay in 2011 was the start of PES clawing their way back though 2014 was a massive step back after the progress of the previous years. Since PES 2016, though, it's been we'll and truly back on top in the gameplay department. Unfortunately, the lack of licences seems to be bothering me more as I get older and the loss of the Champions League licence is only going to be yet another blow :hmm:

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Once Ultimate Team and Pro Clubs became a thing in FIFA it was game over for PES. Those two modes alone are enough to kill off any football competitor. 

I used to play PES all the time on the PS2 and it was the football game everyone played. However, as Nando mentioned, the developers really struggled in the HD era and that's when EA were able to make their move.

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Wait... this is a "Konami - What the hell are they doing?" thread and there's nothing on the brand new 2D Castlevania game being made... only for iOS? :blank:

Come on, keep up. ;)

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3 minutes ago, S.C.G said:

Wait... this is a "Konami - What the hell are they doing?" thread and there's nothing on the brand new 2D Castlevania game being made... only for iOS? :blank:

Come on, keep up. ;)

I just wanted to go a few weeks without wanting to rip my hair out, that’s all :p 

Definitely think a Konami that cared would be trying to make a Soulsborne Castlevania game, though. 

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16 hours ago, S.C.G said:

Wait... this is a "Konami - What the hell are they doing?" thread and there's nothing on the brand new 2D Castlevania game being made... only for iOS? :blank:

I blame Brad. I was listening to this weeks episode of Frame Trap and he said he was desperate to get a 2D Castlevania game. It's all his fault. :D 

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Man, the gameplay of PES 2019 looks gooooood...

Also, Konami have had their most profitable year since FY12. 

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Getting Kojima and co. off their books, moving to mobile, pachinko/gambling, etc., seems to have really worked for their bottom line. I can’t think of any reason that they’d want to return to creating AAA games outside of the annual PES cash-in. A Metal Gear Solid FOX Engine collection also seems like a great shout for a potentially massive cash-in.

But, good lord, I wish they’d, at the very least, let other developers do something with their engine and licenses. Having something like the FOX Engine gathering dust over in the corner besides occasionally using it for PES seems a waste, and having IPs such as Silent Hill, Castlevania, Metal Gear, Suikoden, etc., gathering dust is also a massive waste. 

I was reading something quite interesting the other week about how other companies seem to be picking up from where Konami left things, though, such as Capcom with Resident Evil VII (Silent Hills) and potentially Ubisoft with Splinter Cell (Metal Gear?). So, at least in spirit, I guess some of their IPs are getting to live on. 

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And BAM.

Evert ten Napel, a Dutch soccer commentator who has lent his services to EA for FIFA games, has seemingly confirmed that the UEFA Champions League and Europe League licenses are coming to FIFA 19. 

I was planning on skipping the next game, because of how much I’m surprisingly enjoying FIFA 18’s gameplay when compared to FIFA 15 - 17, and I’m only a couple of seasons into a managerial career mode which is proving a lot of fun. But this sort of throws a wrench into that...I think I’ll be picking this up if it does turn out to be the case :D 

Now if they could just finally add the Club World Cup and actually flesh out the manager mode a bit more...

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Nintendo is convincing Konami to get some of their classic gaming franchises on the Switch with some cross-promotion through Smash Bros. Ultimate.

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So, David Hayter, Robin Atkin Downes and Kris Zimmerman have all been teasing something Metal Gear related on social media in recent days. 

It doesn’t seem like much, and I think it’s a bit far fetched to say for certain (apparently the last time something like this happened it was for a car advertisement...), but it will be the 20th Anniversary of Metal Gear Solid in North America tomorrow, and I could certainly see Konami wanting to cash-in on that in some way, whether immediately, or with a reveal at the TGAs as Downes seemed to imply could be the case. I’m not sure how I would feel about that considering that Kojima-san will more than likely be in attendance, so...

It could be nothing. It could also be those FOX Engine remakes which everyone has been screaming out for — or, you know, a remake of MGS in particular. I suppose it could also even be a Metal Gear Solid VI, a piece of Metal Gear Solid V DLC to round things off, or another spin-off attempt. Or VR. Or some more pachinko machines — a Metal Gear Solid x Castlevania pachinko machine? 

Konami — just what the hell are you doing? 

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