Daft Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I think there are some pretty hilarious jabs coming from Sony at Microsoft. (If they're real, which they probably ain't.)
Agent Gibbs Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 that controller looks like some of the third party products produced for the ps3 by the likes of Power-A and Gioteck.............. And i love that! my sixaxis is in a box somewhere and i've replaced it with a gioteck GX-2 and/or a GC-2 (the latter allows trigger swapping via a switch so is my fps controller of choice) my main issues with the DS3/Sixaxis is its small size and stick placement, with a fatter pad the stick placement might be more comfortable for me. I'm happy, and i'm sure the final version will be a bit more polished
dwarf Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 It turns out the top part isn't for Move functionality at all:
Daft Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Sony EyePad :p http://shopto.net/news/41939/New-patent-uncovered-for-Sony-EyePad So, some speculation. Someone pointed out something kind of interest, that those two little squares either side of the controller aren't buttons and that they are actually cameras...like in the patent above. If this were true, the space above the controller would be able to track movement in 3D space, of say a hand and fingers (the cameras picking up the move can also do body tracking). In combination with the Move integration meaning the controller is pin-pointed by the machine you have a relatively cheap way to do some hand waving, finger sensitive stuff. Now, yeah, motion blah, waving and shit is utter blah - this is how you integrate something like Wonderbook - which has a lot of positive press and potential into the PS3 without the need for Move. It also opens up the potential for eye-tracking. Edited February 15, 2013 by Daft
Retro_Link Posted February 15, 2013 Author Posted February 15, 2013 If that's the case, where on earth are Start and Select?! (really hope those aren't the start/select buttons anyway)... could they be having the PS button as Pause and then just handle everything from there? (what's select even used for on controllers anyway!)
Daft Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 They're a bit too set into the controller to be buttons. Maybe they are toying with just having the PS Button and integrating all the functionality into that on an OS level. It would make sense to refine it like that because at the moment there is a grey area between what the start button and the PS button does.
Cube Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 They're a bit too set into the controller to be buttons. Maybe they are toying with just having the PS Button and integrating all the functionality into that on an OS level. It would make sense to refine it like that because at the moment there is a grey area between what the start button and the PS button does. Start menu - the in-game menu with game-related options. PS Button - An extremely laggy XMB. Still, it would be interesting if the PS button brought up the game menu where a button press moved seamlessly to the PS4's options/games list and stuff like that. Although I'm not sure how that would work for games with complex start menus like Fallout (then again, Skyrim moved that to the B button).
dwarf Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 The Pip-Boy was opened with circle on both current gen Fallouts on the PS3. The actual menu was accessed with start, but there were only 4 or 5 options in it. There still needs to be a separation between XMB and in-game menus I reckon.
Retro_Link Posted February 15, 2013 Author Posted February 15, 2013 I suppose maybe clicking the touch pad could be the start button? (but I suppose you could accidentally click it when using it which would be annoying, and also limit it's fuction to just this one use).
Daft Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I'd be surprised, that'd be one hell of a waste of an input. Start menu - the in-game menu with game-related options. PS Button - An extremely laggy XMB. Still, it would be interesting if the PS button brought up the game menu where a button press moved seamlessly to the PS4's options/games list and stuff like that. Although I'm not sure how that would work for games with complex start menus like Fallout (then again, Skyrim moved that to the B button). I suspect laggy menus won't be a problem on a new machine. I see what you're saying, I think you're right - I'm just not convinced what everyone thinks is the Start/Select button are actually buttons. Also, could probably drop the Select button quite easily.
Retro_Link Posted February 15, 2013 Author Posted February 15, 2013 Important Update: A trusted source has told IGN that this controller is real. However, our source notes that it's an early prototype. The controller, in other words, is likely to change between now and when the console launches. Wednesday can't come soon enough.
Cookyman Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 If you want to read the absolute worst 'rumour' ever, click below. Rumored Playstation 4 Controller Information, With Images and Details I do hope the controller has a speaker. I liked that in the Wii, even though my speaker crapped out. Man that's terrible! This however looks far better!
Daft Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I think it looks great. Looks like the build quality is much better - I've been through loads of Dual Shocks.
Retro_Link Posted February 15, 2013 Author Posted February 15, 2013 Hmm that looks pretty nice! The next evolution at least If not the final one. Slant is now smooth. Still not sure what those two little boxes are... if they are Start/Select, being smooth and on the edge I feel like you'll kind of slip over them as you press, which is why I think, like you say @Daft they could be something else.
Cookyman Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 All from IGN: We finally have an actual picture of what the PlayStation 4 controller looks like, at least in prototype form (see the above "Important Update" for more on that). The picture comes by way of Destructoid, which posted the picture taken from an unknown source. There’s a lot of familiar stuff on the controller along with a litany of new and interesting features. For starters, the directional pad (d-pad) on the left seems to feature meatier, bulkier buttons that are put closer together than on DualShock 3. The face buttons on the right side of the controller seem standard. The analog sticks look to be a bit further apart, though they remain level, unlike the Xbox 360 controller's unevenly placed sticks. However, the sticks themselves are concave, like the Xbox 360’s. PlayStation 3’s controller includes convex analog sticks. The much-rumored touch pad – a la the back of PlayStation Vita – appears at the center of the controller. There’s a small, mystery button to the left of the pad, above and to the right of the d-pad. Is this the rumored share button? Or is it a start or select button, both conspicuously absent from this version of the controller? Meanwhile, there’s a glowing “something” on the top of the controller – most likely PlayStation Move-related – as well as a PlayStation button seemingly identical to the one on the PS3 controller. Above the PlayStation button appears to be a speaker, and what looks to be an audio jack is underneath the controller, perhaps used to plug in a headset. Update: Another source has told IGN that the mysterious space in the middle of the controller can be pressed like a button, something Kotaku's source has also stated. Our separate source also indicates that the R2 and L2 buttons may actually be more in line with spring-loaded Xbox 360-like triggers and that the light atop the controller is indeed a PlayStation Move sensor. Important Update: A trusted source has told IGN that this controller is real. However, our source notes that it's an early prototype. The controller, in other words, is likely to change between now and when the console launches. Sony has responded to our inquiry to note that it "can't comment on rumors or speculation", its typical response. We'll almost certainly find out what the final controller looks like at the PlayStation event in NYC on February 20. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Digital Foundry has tweeted another picture of what purports to be the PlayStation 4 controller. The new picture shows a headphone jack at the bottom of the controller, previously called the "mystery port". It also shows the touchpad on the front from a different angle, with one button on either side of it. Image credit Digital Foundry: It is clearly the same prototype controller that was pictured yesterday, which IGN sources have asserted as genuine. It's widely expected that the PS4 will be officially unveiled next Wednesday at a Sony event in New York. You can watch it live on IGN.
Daft Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Yeah, I don't think they're buttons on either side, they're cameras. I'm calling it.
Captain Falcon Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 They do look more like they are there for debug/programming reasons than to be used as actual buttons. They could just quick ways to turn on/off the different functions like the move senser, touch pad, speaker etc or maybe they are just the start and select and they've been thrown up there until Sony determine exactly where they want them. Those chunky looking handles look far nicer to grip onto than the flat DS ones.
Cookyman Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 This gif is just fan wankery from Neogaf, so don't all jizz at once
Cube Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 From that angle, the PS button actually looks much easier to press.
drahkon Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Looks...good...I guess. Shame I won't be able to watch the press conference.
Sheikah Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I think it looks great. Looks like the build quality is much better - I've been through loads of Dual Shocks. I admit it definitely looks better from that angle. Looks less chunky from that view.
Captain Falcon Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Supposedly a hoax. I have no idea what to think. I do want Backwards compatibility though. Who says it's a hoax? I mean, I know that shot shows the Wii Dev kit in them (the black box sitting on the top mostly out of shot), but that doesn't mean the thing under neath, or the controller, isn't the real mccoy. I actually think that this controller looks so hilariously cheap that I'm going to say that I find it laughable to even think that this might be the actual controller for the PS4. The proper Sony controller will look much better : peace: I'm prepared to take the abuse if this is indeed "real", though.. But that isn't the final version - it's a prototype the devs have been using. The cheap looking mat plastic was to be expected. All dev kits and debug units tend to look crap. Once you see a swap to the glossy stuff they usually use, and maybe a few other tweaks, it will look a lot better.
nekunando Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 But that isn't the final version - it's a prototype the devs have been using. The cheap looking mat plastic was to be expected. All dev kits and debug units tend to look crap. Once you see a swap to the glossy stuff they usually use, and maybe a few other tweaks, it will look a lot better. Yeh.. I actually deleted my post before this response came because I only wrote it based on seeing the picture and not actually reading more into it.. SCHOOLBOY ERROR I have no qualms about it being a potential early prototype I just don't think it will be anywhere close to the final design.. but I'm sure most of us would agree on that anyway
Captain Falcon Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Yeh.. I actually deleted my post before this response came because I only wrote it based on seeing the picture and not actually reading more into it.. SCHOOLBOY ERROR I have no qualms about it being a potential early prototype I just don't think it will be anywhere close to the final design.. but I'm sure most of us would agree on that anyway I did wonder what happened to your post. It does have a smidge of "third party knock off" about it but a good paint job would do wonders. Maybe make the touch pad and move sensor a bit more pleasing by giving them some semblance of shape. You can see they've tried to blend the touch pad into the that button array section but it still looks a bit iffy.
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