Coolness Bears Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I voted. voting is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining_again Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 AV is awesome. We have it here already! Get and vote yes you silly people. I've just been and done the local and Stormont vote, woo. My next door neighbour is running for local council in TUV. Voted for him locally but theres no way I'll vote to put TUV in stormont lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McPhee Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 The Conservatives are 'No' because AV will result in them loosing seats. The Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, Plaid Cymru and various other small parties are backing the 'Yes' campaign because they only stand to gain from AV. Labour are split because some of the Labour MPs know they'll lose their seats under AV. Overall the party stands to gain, it would weaken the Tory party (whom Labour would beat in almost all Labour/Tory marginals if AV is brought in) and they'd likely be the biggest single party for at least the next few elections. AV is awesome. We have it here already! Get and vote yes you silly people. I've just been and done the local and Stormont vote, woo. My next door neighbour is running for local council in TUV. Voted for him locally but theres no way I'll vote to put TUV in stormont lol Unfortunately it seems education standards fell so much under Thatcher that the middle-aged population in this country can't understand what AV is. Honestly, so many of them think it a difficult system to understand. God help us if we ever adopt PR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debug Mode Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Eh? Can some explain to me this Betfair stuff? Obviously 'backing' the Yes to AV means you're betting on it to win. But why the hell has the 'lay' bet have more of a payout than 'backing' the no to AV majority? I thought lay was voting for something not to win? =S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining_again Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I read an article that the PM said he didn't support it, what a tit. its simple... if you really can't handle it just change your tick to a 1 and be done with it for gods sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Low turnout at my polling station, we're talking dozens rather than hundreds of people this year. I abstained from voting in the local council elections, I've heard nothing of/from the candidates so it'd be unfair of me to vote on that. I'm total opposite to that....Lib dems (who have had Harrogate seats for years) came round with tons of people and the Labour candidate personally come round and we had a chat. Was very interesting to hear his views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McPhee Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Eh? Can some explain to me this Betfair stuff? Obviously 'backing' the Yes to AV means you're betting on it to win. But why the hell has the 'lay' bet have more of a payout than 'backing' the no to AV majority? I thought lay was voting for something not to win? =S You're right. However, on Betfair the 'Lay' better stakes the 'Bet' better. Lay bets get great odds, but if it goes wrong then you have to pay in more. As an example, if you place a £10 Lay bet at 32-1 on 'Yes' being the outcome of today's vote and the result is 'No' then you win £320. If the result is 'Yes' then you have to pay in that figure, as the winnings of the 'Bet' better that you were matched to. In a nutshell, Lay betting is a massive gamble. You get the best chance of winning, but it comes at the risk of massive liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debug Mode Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Well, polls are closed. 4pm tomorrow the vote count begins, Pretty interested to see how this turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle64 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Unfortunately it seems education standards fell so much under Thatcher that the middle-aged population in this country can't understand what AV is. Honestly, so many of them think it a difficult system to understand. God help us if we ever adopt PR! Rather, I've been hearing that around and it's slightly frightening. It's all very well arguing against AV because you prefer another system for whatever reason, but if you genuinely think AV is "too complicated" you're probably the sort of person who's sole intellectual contact is with their goldfish. I voted. voting is fun. I have this image of the counters opening your ballot and being hurled against the wall by the rainbows and unicorns exploding from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 So I'm a little drunk. I went to vote a bit inconsequently and caught myself off guard, no constituency vote here so it was just on AV and after all I decided to vote No as voting yes was pointless given the opinion polls and I might as well vote no cos that's how it's going to go anyway. At least now I can say how I was cool and did what everyone else did, rather than being defeated by the system. It was a clear loss from the reported representation of the polls anyway, so at least I can ease my conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 So I'm a little drunk. I went to vote a bit inconsequently and caught myself off guard, no constituency vote here so it was just on AV and after all I decided to vote No as voting yes was pointless given the opinion polls and I might as well vote no cos that's how it's going to go anyway. At least now I can say how I was cool and did what everyone else did, rather than being defeated by the system. It was a clear loss from the reported representation of the polls anyway, so at least I can ease my conscience. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Why do people care about 'winning' when you're voting? Surely you vote for what you want and if you don't get it, it's just because more people want the other thing. You shouldn't just guess what the outcome will be and vote that way to look cool... Oh the folly of drunk people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Well it's going to be Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales that decide the AV referendum, due to the low turnout in England due to no major elections taking place, so hopefully the fact that all three of those regions already use alternative voting systems to FPTP for electing their local parliament members we'll hopefully see a positive result. I'm not hopeful though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 So I'm a little drunk. I went to vote a bit inconsequently and caught myself off guard, no constituency vote here so it was just on AV and after all I decided to vote No as voting yes was pointless given the opinion polls and I might as well vote no cos that's how it's going to go anyway. At least now I can say how I was cool and did what everyone else did, rather than being defeated by the system. It was a clear loss from the reported representation of the polls anyway, so at least I can ease my conscience. Please tell me you're joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellmeister Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Rummy's explanation made no sense whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." ...and there's the proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarf Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 That, and tactical voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McPhee Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 "Four thousand throats may be cut in one night by a running man." - Klingon Proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McPhee Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Well it's going to be Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales that decide the AV referendum, due to the low turnout in England due to no major elections taking place, so hopefully the fact that all three of those regions already use alternative voting systems to FPTP for electing their local parliament members we'll hopefully see a positive result. I'm not hopeful though I thought Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland used the d'Hondt method of party-list proportional representation? It's not the same as AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 ...Please tell me someone hacked into Rummy's account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEVILMURRAY Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Unfortunately it seems education standards fell so much under Thatcher Because the bitch stopped the flow of awesomeness: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Rummy's obviously joking, he wouldn't create the thread with such passion for yes and then vote no for such a lol reason. Or in other words. "Rummy R ARTICHOKE" - Lebanese Orient, 1742 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 "Rummy R ARTICHOKE" - Lebanese Orient, 1742 Literally a sig-worthy post. I love so much. --- If SNP get a majority I'm touching myself in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellmeister Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 --- If SNP get a majority I'm touching myself in the street. Literally a sig-worthy post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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