Charlie Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 To everyone saying that the death of bin Laden won't change anything. It will. Of course there are people who can replace him but he was Al Qaeda's symbolic leader and a major propaganda tool that he could evade capture for so long when he was the most wanted person in the world. There have been lots of cases throughout history where when the leader of a nation or group of people has completely demoralised them and the other party involved has gone on to gain a victory soon afterwards. I'm not saying this is what's going to happen here but it's happened before. Osama bin Laden's death is a massive point, not only was he killed but also a number of other important members of the Al Qaeda and their HQ was destroyed. This is a huge blow to Al Qaeda. I can't imagine there will be any quick retaliation for his death as these things take a long time to plan. You might find that there are a few sporadic attacks by a single person or a few people but nothing major, and nothing planned.
EEVILMURRAY Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Sounds like good news. Obama did a jov job rubbing salt in the wounds of the friends/relatives of 9/11 victims at the beginning.
nightwolf Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I think it's good news that he's obviously not the leader anymore. But I find it somewhat unnerving that people are throwing parties over it, the war is still here and people are still dying, let's leave the champers for when that's over - kay?
The Mad Monkey Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I think it's good news that he's obviously not the leader anymore. But I find it somewhat unnerving that people are throwing parties over it, the war is still here and people are still dying, let's leave the champers for when that's over - kay? It will never be over.
Cube Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Good news but, as Adthegreat says, it's not like he's the only one who can organise terrorist attacks. Where one dies, another will replace unfortunately. Maybe not now but at some point in the future, there will be. One? There's likely loads of them, all organising stuff independently. The "War Against Terror" is fruitless - it's an idea and you can't kill an idea.
Jon Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 He must have thought the troops had the Easter break off too.
nightwolf Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 But can the war on an abstract noun ever be over? Oh shush you, don't make me pull out gifs! Mad monkey - in a sense it will be, eventually the country will be able to pull itself together, the war on terror, pretty much in agreement with you there sista!
The Mad Monkey Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Mad monkey - in a sense it will be, eventually the country will be able to pull itself together Which country would that be?
Ashley Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Oh shush you, don't make me pull out gifs! Already beat you to it.
Mokong Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Good news, I'd say... for the short term at least, in the long term you do have to wonder what kind, if any, retaliation there might be? Or could this be the demoralising blow? Will he just end up becoming a Martyr? One thing that's kinda annoying me though is the scenes of US people celebrating chanting "USA USA" as if it was a sporting event they'd won. Also saw one guy with a poster saying "Obama 1 - Osama 0" surely if they were keeping score shouldn't Osama have at least 3 points from 9-11? Or since that was during the Bush era did the "scoreboard" reset when Obama took over? I bet he regrets buying a PS3 and signing up to the PSN. BTW, I'm also steeling this for Twitter : peace:
flameboy Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Meh, he's been dead for years, the Americans just found the body. Yeah same here. He was on kidney support years ago. Good news, I'd say... for the short term at least, in the long term you do have to wonder what kind, if any, retaliation there might be? Or could this be the demoralising blow? Will he just end up becoming a Martyr? One thing that's kinda annoying me though is the scenes of US people celebrating chanting "USA USA" as if it was a sporting event they'd won. Also saw one guy with a poster saying "Obama 1 - Osama 0" surely if they were keeping score shouldn't Osama have at least 3 points from 9-11? Or since that was during the Bush era did the "scoreboard" reset when Obama took over? BTW, I'm also steeling this for Twitter : peace: Damn you I was going to! Did retweet this one though; Donald Trump demands Osama Bin Laden's death certificate. As for him dieing its a victory on the war in terror to some extent but they will still go on without him sadly. Also is there really any need for it to be supported as such Bin Laden resisted and was shot in the head. Do we really need to know this? The reasons are obvious, american bravado, sigh...
Cube Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Do we really need to know this? The reasons are obvious, american bravado, sigh... Well, they can't just shoot him. That would be "unjust" or something along those lines.
Ashley Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I think some people have been criticising them saying "he should have been tried, punished etc" and saw death as the easy way out. I think Pentagon were just confirming that would have been ideal but the only way to get him was death.
Jimbob Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Took them long enough didn't it? Saddam was found months after the Iraq war started, and it takes nearly 10 years to find Bin Laden. And to top it all off, he wasn't even hiding in a cave as people thought he did. All that wasted time looking in holes, dear oh dear. And, i quote this from my cousin "Following Osama bin Laden's death, Madeleine McCann has announced she is delighted that she only has six years to go before she takes his hide-and-seek world record!"
flameboy Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Just re-tweeted this; Remember on Sept 12, 2001 when you saw people in some places abroad celebrating death? Exactly.Don't be like that. Kinda true, the west always kicks off and gets annoyed when they see these mobs celebrating such events in streets and burning effigies of our leaders etc... and now we have americans running around chanting "USA USA USA" and inciting more hatred.
Mokong Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 What's the odds on the next Call of Duty game having a level recreating the operation to find/kill Osama Bin Laden?
Jimbob Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Having a chat downstairs with the folks, they are iffy with this. Not for Osama being killed, but for not bringing him to account for what he done. Like the UK/USA did with Saddam, then executing him afterwards. But then, would it do much good. Was killing him right there and then the best thing to do?.
Supergrunch Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Seems a bit pointless to me. The world is so odd sometimes...
The Mad Monkey Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Was killing him right there and then the best thing to do?. It's the only thing they could really say they did, seeing as he was already dead.
ipaul Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 This was marvellous news to wake up to People need to stop being so dam miserable/sceptical/apathetic about it and rejoice in the fact that there's one less murderous bastard out there.
Sheikah Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Yeah, regardless of what effect it has on terrorism a man responsible for mass murder of innocents is dead. That's a good thing, for sure.
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