My Buttons are Magic! Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 Northern Ireland isn't even British. I KNOW but for some reason we have british passports n stuff
jayseven Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 "Members of the Unionist communities in Northern Ireland might describe themselves as British even though they are not on the island of Great Britain, as this reflects a political and cultural identity." Britain is the island on the right, Ireland is on the left. The british isles is an archipalego. g'bless wiki. How awesome is that picture, eh! EDIT: lol I especially love the bits of Northern Island that are part of the british isles but not the uk
Supergrunch Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 "Members of the Unionist communities in Northern Ireland might describe themselves as British even though they are not on the island of Great Britain, as this reflects a political and cultural identity." Britain is the island on the right, Ireland is on the left. The british isles is an archipalego. g'bless wiki. How awesome is that picture, eh! EDIT: lol I especially love the bits of Northern Island that are part of the british isles but not the uk Related things, and a slightly less awesome diagram here.
Shino Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 So the correct term is not British but something like UKnian?
Gizmo Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 It's Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or the United Kingdom. Britain != UK Edit: That means Scotland + England + Wales = Great Britain Scotland + England + Wales + Northern Ireland = United Kingdom
Eenuh Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 This is all too confusing... Anyway, I think I'm pretty much Belgian, with a tiny bit of Dutch thrown in there (I think the dad or granddad of my grandfather was Dutch, or something). Can't say I ever paid attention to our family tree though.
Blue_Ninja0 Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 Ditto. Your country is too confusing. I'm just going to stick with calling you British to some and Irish to others. Don't feel ofended.
My Buttons are Magic! Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 It's Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or the United Kingdom. Britain != UK Edit: That means Scotland + England + Wales = Great Britain Scotland + England + Wales + Northern Ireland = United Kingdom i think your right! well.. hmm.. its all confusing wiki says Protestants consider themselves British and Catholics see themselves as Irish but there are some who see themselves as both British and Irish. People from Northern Ireland are entitled to both British and Irish citizenship im "protestant" and i consider myself irish. but the downside about being "protestant" is that yo udont learn about the irish langauge.culture. thing. which sucks tbh
Gizmo Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 Well, what I said is the official terminology. But in NI you can get a "British" passport because "British" passports are GB & NI, but just get called British casually because it's simpler.
Jonnas Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Your country is confusing. I think I'll just stick to Brittish and Irish.
The fish Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Your country is confusing. I think I'll just stick to Brittish and Irish. Britain is the group of islands. Great Britain is the biggest, and is made up of Scotland, Wales, and England. The second largest island is Ireland, which is split into the Republic of Ireland/Eire and Northern Ireland. The countries of Great Britain, when combined with Northern Ireland, make the United Kingdom. Ireland is in no-way British whatsoever. That argument is great right up to the point you realise people in the British Isles are European, even though not part of Europe per-se. 'Britain' is the British Isles. Someone from there is "British". Unfortunately, as the American's tend to be as stupid as they are wide, they think that "Britain" means "Great Britain", which is actually just a part of Britain. Ditto. Your country is too confusing.I'm just going to stick with calling you British to some and Irish to others. Don't feel ofended. Very few people will term themselves as being from Britain. We're all English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish/Northern Irish, Manx, or from somewhere outside of the archipelago.
conzer16 Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Ditto. Your country is too confusing.I'm just going to stick with calling you British to some and Irish to others. Don't feel ofended. Your country is confusing. I think I'll just stick to Brittish and Irish. They are actually 2 distinct countries though. British and Irish are not from the same country. Britain is the group of islands. Great Britain is the biggest, and is made up of Scotland, Wales, and England. The second largest island is Ireland, which is split into the Republic of Ireland/Eire and Northern Ireland. Britain is not the group of Island. Some term the group of islands the British Isles - very contentious here in the Republic. The second largest island is that of Ireland indeed, but Ireland is not part of Britain. That argument is great right up to the point you realise people in the British Isles are European, even though not part of Europe per-se. Per-se? As in Continental Europe? And the argument hold right up to that point and beyond it. Irish people are not British, just as British people are not Irish. 2 distinct, independent and wildly varying cultures exist. Sorry to get so pedantic about this, but it realy pisses me off when Ireland is referred to as part of Britain of that being Irish is British. I have no problem with the British people, culture, countries et in the slightest but please!!! don't dare call me British! I'm Irish!!!!
Emasher Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 50% German, 25% Slovakian, 25% Danish. Though my family has lived in Canada for a few generations now. I'm actually a descendent of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Bluetooth
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 as the American's tend to be as stupid as they are wide, they think that "Britain" means "Great Britain", which is actually just a part of Britain. Or maybe it's because it's do damn confusing! You can't really call people stupid for having a hard time figuring out something as majorly confusing as this. Especially because so many people THINK they know and spread the wrong info.
Supergrunch Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 For confused foreigners - there's a method that's (almost) guarranteed not to irritate anyone, whatever part of the British Isles they may be from: call people from England "English", people from Wales "Welsh", people from Scotland "Scottish", people from Ireland "Irish", etc.
Eenuh Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 'Britain' is the British Isles. Someone from there is "British". Unfortunately, as the American's tend to be as stupid as they are wide, they think that "Britain" means "Great Britain", which is actually just a part of Britain. Honestly, this 'American bashing' is getting annoying. I don't really know the difference between Britain and Great Britain either (even though I'm sure I learned about it once, years ago), so that means I must be stupid as well! For confused foreigners - there's a method that's (almost) guarranteed not to irritate anyone, whatever part of the British Isles they may be from: call people from England "English", people from Wales "Welsh", people from Scotland "Scottish", people from Ireland "Irish", etc. That is still too confusing. Plus you cannot always know where a person is from (especially as I have no idea what cities are situated in which part of the country). So I will stick with British and Irish.
Jonnas Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 They are actually 2 distinct countries though. British and Irish are not from the same country. I know. Ireland is the only simple part of the whole bunch. For confused foreigners - there's a method that's (almost) guarranteed not to irritate anyone, whatever part of the British Isles they may be from: call people from England "English", people from Wales "Welsh", people from Scotland "Scottish", people from Ireland "Irish", etc. I'm with Eenuh in this point. A distinction between British and Irish is easier. Plus, what would we call those from N.Ireland? N.Irish?
Hellfire Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 For confused foreigners - there's a method that's (almost) guarranteed not to irritate anyone, whatever part of the British Isles they may be from: call people from England "English", people from Wales "Welsh", people from Scotland "Scottish", people from Ireland "Irish", etc. Can't I just call you UKers. I have to read up on these posts to understand your country :P
dazzybee Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 I was born 75% English and 25% welsh. But every cut, gash and bleeding I have had it's been the welsh blood that has come out, so now I am 100% English.
Sanchez Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 im 3/4 spanish and a 1/4 english but ive lived in scotland all my life.
Blue_Ninja0 Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 My head hurts. Let's settle as Via Lacteans. Via Lactea is the original name of the Milky Way so that you know. Less confusing this way.
The fish Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 I'm with Eenuh in this point. A distinction between British and Irish is easier. Plus, what would we call those from N.Ireland? N.Irish? The easiest way to do it is call people Irish, English, Welsh, and Scottish (screw the Manx). That is still too confusing. Plus you cannot always know where a person is from (especially as I have no idea what cities are situated in which part of the country). So I will stick with British and Irish. Of the places regulars are from, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, and Lerwick are Scotland, Newport, Swansea and Cardiff and Wales, and everywhere else is England. (Oh, and Ballymena is Northern Ireland.)
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