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The problem with England is, they always try and walk it in. (soz, couldn't help myself) I do agree though. As a non-regular football fan, I struggle to see any sort of shape or tactics to their game so far in the Euros. I don't know if it's because I'm not particularly football focused, but a lot of it just seems a bit unpredictable really, and I think it really showed with some of the Iceland match.

Yes :p What's done is done though, cba going through the motions however I can flag it up to my PS4 crew! Is the Morrisons one this origin editions one? What even IS this origins edition? Some extra clout that you'd pay for otherwise(like the microtransaction stuff)? EDIT: Actually only just found out that Morrisons apparently don't even deliver down here to SE london of all places so the offer was useless for us!! How very silly.

Other than Gravity Rush anyone got any Sale recommendations for PS4? Really need to get back on the thing.

Keep it Zelda and on-topic please, folks. This is a warning.

My mates left the pub earlier than I hoped last night so I guess I did save myself the price of another pint... WTF! I tried searching for it on their site yesterday then even by sorting A-Z and didn't manage to find the bloody thing anywhere! So weird. Gonna go look now. EDIT: Code wasn't active but thanks for the shout @Sheikah, took the punt for £38.95 said only one was left in stock though hoping it won't have gone whilst I was checking out!

But each was its own time limit, of sorts - is there even a 'time limit' in this? Though then I wonder...what if you can only access certain ones on certain times or during certain weather conditions? That'd be another interesting thing. OoT had 8ish+ and I had no issues with that. A couple even had a 'shortcut' aspect to them iirc so that you could come back to it later and skip having to repeat too much of what you'd already done(a common Zelda feature these days, though still some work required) - I don't think I've found myself minding it too much tbh. Maybe we'll still see something else though, even less conventional but equally interesting. I do find myself looking forward to the game just to see what it holds as whole experience.

That is a fair point actually, as I ask for more dungeons I do kind of think of them in terms of length of previous dungeons. The ones in SS and TP I didn't find overly long, but I may have saved myself specifically for them and Ninty have generally been going at giving you 'return points' of sorts. I wouldn't mind a larger than usual dungeon if that's got that aspect of a return point - but then as well my most recent Zelda experiences have probably been OoT and MM on 3DS where you could essentially do exactly what you say - pop on and off pretty easily without any major interrupts! Another option is, though I know it annoyed some, something similar to what PH did with its main time temple and returnablility of sorts - what if they made almost multi-layered/multi-tiered dungeons that you can do a bit of here and there but will essentially have to come back to one or twice later to fully finish off/complete. Quite metroid-esque, though. In my mind Prime's springing in as I think about it.

Tbh since E3 I only have what others say to go on - so hopefully it isn't true but doesn't fill me with inspiration if it's a rumour with basis. We've also only seen a small portion of the game so not a lot of environments and hopefully there'll be fresh and new ones too - but as I said some really solidly themed dungeons would be fantastic. I can think in my head of OoT and the Forest Temple/Music with its strange melancholy jollyness and that echoing choir-like melody(used to be one of my least appreciated dungeons too) plus its general setting just makes it feel like....I dunno. Just....the emotion of it. When I think of stuff with Zelda I just feel things, that I can't always put into words, and that's what I'd like from this. Themed dungeons can be such a crafted atmosphere to achieve that! Also to go back to MM(as it's a fairly fair comparison to OoT) - some of the dungeon mystery was lost by each one's treasure being a new arrow. I can see why and it worked in the game, but OoT(admittedly fresher, as MM drew heavily on it) felt like a real exploration as you didn't know what you were actually gonna get! TP recaptured this(NO TAKE MIRROR!), but sadly the post-dungeon usage of items was then limited - something I really hope WON'T be the case in this game given its openness. Also don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm against the shrines - I just feel I don't know how much atmosphere etc each will offer compared to a real, proper, full-fledged dungeon where there's possibility to build the whole thing around its area, as I felt was done with OoT and MM's. Having exploration areas is cool - OoT+MM offered this in some ways with random holes etc, LttP had caves etc, I really really like all of that and I think shrines may well capture that - just as long as there's enough variety to go with it all.

Yeah I've always shared stuff that could be called political - but I guess it's because I feel some people don't consider or think about it all enough, and tbh I think this referendum has shown that in some ways. I'm slightly trying to avoid taking any sides now the decisions in or fighting that corner and just going forwards generally - absolutely like you I think the best thing is to discuss things. One of my mates on facebook was vehemently on the opposite side of the vote to me, but it hasn't tinged us at all(if anything, made us closer!) - I am struggling to actually understand how or why people are having to get so caught up and personal about things, like how you can hate someone so vehemently simply for having a different view to you! If we just all got along and agreed then life would be boring! I just wish some people would conduct themselves with decorum - I've seen absolutely despicable and vile behaviour post decision from both sides, and that's one of the things that upsets and maybe even angers me the most. I abhor all this name calling and absolute and utter self-belief that they're not just an opinion, but that they're right! I know I can and have been very passionate on the whole topic, but I've never taken an approach of dismissing someone for a different opinion and I'm amazed seeing the absolute spectrum of people doing so!

No way has he been MEP for the last 17 years?! He wasn't even on the radar 17 years ago! I recall when he got the election to position, and I was definitely much older than I was 17 years ago....wasn't I?? Had seen one of the comedy folks on The Last Leg say the same on Friday though. One thing annoying me a bit atm - apparently I can't post anything political on facebook without it automatically being just about a Remain/Leave thing -.- I am amazed at how solidly this has shifted some people's pre-concepted mindsets to read automatically assume the nature of something and immediately go on an offensive/defensive. I've specifically tried to avoid being a 'bad Remainer' since Friday but for some reason that also means I'm maybe apparently supposed to shut up about anything remotely political!

Yeah sounds good - just was curious really. If Splatoon could get at least 100 hours from me, I haven't much concern about this. I'm still a super tight wanker though, and refuse to pay a penny over £38 for it!

Backed Iceland to win for a few quid as their odds looked good but never expected it. Got in around 35 mins in and saw it was already 2-1!! Quite shocked. England were terrible in the second half, seemed so sloppy for most of it whereas some of Iceland's attacks looked quite tight to me(tho I'm not a big football man). Some tense moments resting on it for me though, especially in the last ten minutes or so! Seems I've learnt this week the best way for me to win money is to bet against what I want though. This and the Brexit netted me £20, which covers what I've lost otherwise so far! Shame it isn't worth quite as much as last week Props to Iceland though, given who they were against I think they played really well. Now that I'm not following England anymore I might try and catch their matches instead! (along with Wales, ofc)

Damn Morrisons are out of stock! If anyone sees this at £38 or less please gimme a shout. Are there still just two game modes at the moment? I watched a quick overview video that said it's two - capture points and payload. Will these change or be expanded in future, do we know?

Four dungeons?? Just four dungeons?! The saddest thing about MM for me is that it only had four dungeons. I know there's the shrines but I'd hope that this is supposed to be geographically the biggest Zelda ever that there are more than four bloody dungeons. The amount of theme-ing they can do per dungeon is one of the things I love about going through Zelda and experiencing its dungeons that tend to reflect their environmental settings/theme. Having just four bloody dungeons is weak AF if true. Hope there's at least 7-10. What if...Link isn't the Hero...

Why aren't we asking ourselves how or why we let our society get to this in the first place? Whilst I can't deny I didn't think we should be given the power of the vote, I can't deny it was truly and fully democratic. Hearing people regretting it could be a reason to argue against that - but that's to suggest I'm more right in having a say in my country than one of these other people, and I'm not so sure about that. I'm currently(tho subject to change) with @kav82 on not wanting to pledge to a further referendum just because it didn't go the way I believe is right - because I am willing to accept I could both be wrong, but also that a majority spoke in a democracy. I'm not keen to say Brexit is inherently bad or wrong even though I believe it, I feel it is just mostly unknown. Back to your post though King_V - I'm glad it's making people think. Shame it may be a bit too little too late, but they ARE thinking now. As Cube says also - can we use it as a jumping off point to consider again moving forward to making other election processes more democratic, especially given the irony of some of the arguments made around exactly that and the EU? Of course, these are mostly rhetorical questions. I know the arguments coming both for and against them, and it will start to take us off topic getting into them.

Mine's still plugged in but mostly not been touched so much since I got my PS4 back in September(which, in turn, hasn't seen much touching these past few months though more than the WiiU). Since the PS4 I fell off Splatoon a bit which was the real big thing keeping me going and I struggled to go back - did at Xmas to show my mate when she was back from Japan(and hadn't gotten it yet !!) and then was used for a bit of MH3 by my ladyfriend a few months back - since then I think the only other thing has probably been a brief bit of smashing when Marcamillian popped round a month or two ago. Tbh I'm thinking of giving it on a long term lend to a mate when they're home again with a bit of time on their hands - will probs only take it back for Zelda atm. Had meant to get XCX but just never got round to it.

What you did there. I saw it.

Goddamn it Sheikah! I wanted to do that line! Happy birthday Animal!

The uncertainty and anxiety that comes with it must be pretty horrible - tbh you're one of the few people I know well enough in the position however so I'm really valuing your thoughts on the whole thing. As said, I doubt they'll be kicking anyone out but if there's new regulation to come in etc then it might be a pain in the arse for you - just take solace that it's not something that's going to happen tomorrow - we've still got a lot of time for this transition to settle and take place yet. It's a shame about the latter aspect though. That was one of my concerns. It's all going to be time though, seeing what comes of this in the long run. I can understand people's upset at the moment, and whilst what is happening right now certainly isn't great(the pound losing so much value etc) it's still just Day 1. The issue I had with Leaving is that it's an unknown - and it still is and will be for a foreseeable while; but the votes done now, the decisions made - what else can we do? It was fully democratic - I don't understand how or why people can be so upset about that when it's what gets cried for at every election. Sure, it's shit when it doesn't go your way - but if you had your vote and you used it, you counted exactly as much as your neighbour. I wish we could have that happen so much more often in politics.

Expected a much worse end to the UK markets at today's close. Looks like Carney and the BoE did something good to help allay fears there at least. Still not happy with the current outcome but much better than I felt this morning.

Gutted, absolutely gutted. But as I said - this was a truly democratic vote. I'm really very pleased about that. I can't hold fault to the outcome, because the voting system was not flawed. It's representative of the majority of the people. The key here is stabilising the economy. If they can keep a good handle on it then I won't mind too much. Economies and markets are too volatile for this though. The pound lowest since 1985. But hey, people survived that, and we'll survive this too. For me the greatest risk is inflation due to the now low value of the pound - and I've suddenly felt the most grown up I ever have in my life considering how much any rise in interest rates to counter inflation will add to my monthly/yearly mortgage spend in interest. But yeah. Can't do anything about it now. My heart breaks for people like @Eenuh(e-hugs to you). For UK nationals we're just in it together now. We let our people vote democratically, they did, I find it very hard to be upset about that right now. I think we have to be careful about this 'immigrantophobia' becoming more and more commonplace in the public consciousness though.

Hows the variety at the moment? Are you the same character for the whole match or is it changeable at any time like TF2? Are maps voted on by people? The only thing that tended to put me off TF2 was mostly that I'm a PC gamer - if the games are quick(how long, actually?) on this then considering Splatoon managed to get more than 100 hours out of me despite its flaws this may well be a game I should definitely get.

What you gonna do though. The best we have is turning out and voting, whatever the outcome I'll know I went and had my say in what is, truly, a democratic vote. But if you want to make yourself feel better don't buy a beer and bet the money on opposite outcome to what you want. That's what I've done anyway - I'm a winner either way :p!

Yeah I probs will get it it's just the bunce and time atm. I might watch some vids as I literally know pretty much nothing other than what you guys here have said and the TV ads - you mention updates - is it a game you can see yourself playing for a long time to come, even if people you know stop? I might put it off for a week or two as I'm so behind with my work and I should try and bring it home to get it sorted rather than playing video games :p

I've voted! Time to get us rid of them darkies!! Also I enjoyed this on facebook earlier;