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Tbh I'm not sure I'd trust Nintendo(especially with your quoted expressed views of Miyamoto) to support VR well at all, given how poor a job I feel they did in supporting their own promised asymmetrical gaming experiences on a console they built themselves from the ground up. Still not feeling like much beyond Nintendoland really did as much as was promised for the system(and poss ZombiU, but that wasn't for me at the time). Also agree that one must lead from the front. Otherwise maybe I'll just get into the CD-R market, they're this great new thing where you can write to CDs yourselves(previously not an option!!) and can typically hold up to 700MB and have sold really well so far!! Definite winner. EDIT: Finished reading the whole thing. Don't normally read this - are they usually so...grilling? I'm sure I've seen one or two before but not felt them to be nailing some of the issues so well. Are the responses also usually so weak? Lots of 'thinking about' 'considering' etcetc. Only a couple hard/solid answers - one of which was actually probably Miyamoto in response to the video aspect(though the question was let down by it being framed in a 'movie' context anyhow). Also can't help but notice it all seems to focus ongoing-ly on Nintendo self-supporting mostly, with yet again no ideas or plans of third party - especially when considering how to generate more cost-effective income etc.

Fixed that for you Remember feeling like it was an absolute troll when I played TP lol.

Fixed that for you Remember feeling like it was an absolute troll when I played TP lol.

You're far most honest than some, I think :p What's the deal with family or elsewise in the UK getting items and posting them to you, or is that too much hassle/still causes issues with costs?

You're far most honest than some, I think :p What's the deal with family or elsewise in the UK getting items and posting them to you, or is that too much hassle/still causes issues with costs?

Yeah I find watching games I've actually played most fun and if the glitches aren't too mental or if they're small ones with lots of different applications. Will have to try and catch both this ALBW and Prime runs! Might watch with Marcamillian tomorrow if I find them on youtube.

Yeah I find watching games I've actually played most fun and if the glitches aren't too mental or if they're small ones with lots of different applications. Will have to try and catch both this ALBW and Prime runs! Might watch with Marcamillian tomorrow if I find them on youtube.

I probs would for the lols, but I'm essentially still london based and got peeps around the way in town that I could probs crash with if it came to numbers, so I won't request a space for now

I probs would for the lols, but I'm essentially still london based and got peeps around the way in town that I could probs crash with if it came to numbers, so I won't request a space for now

The leaver which he is? Just like you're a racist if you voted leave, right? Well yes of course, that's why I was sharing so much. I've drawn comments from many friends about how I was essentially accidentally flooding their facebooks with referendum stuff - yet post-referendum I saw many many many more remainers all bitching and moaning trying to reverse it but then I wondered why they didn't do their work before it instead. Maybe I swayed some unknowns, maybe I didn't - but I explicitly knew what most of my friends were going to be voting based on conversations, likes, etc. I agree the uncertains would be less vocal - but again that's why I was sharing so much. But wasn't that just, really, the truth? Would you prefer to be lied to, similar to what the Leave campaign is now being held to have done by so many people? The EU's not perfect, but the argument was that we can only change it from within, and also that leaving would be bad for the economy. As I said - the argument for remain wasn't a particularly sexy one to make - how would you have done it, if you were in their shoes? Re: the Tory win last year - that's not the same. Votes did not count as democratically in that vote/election as they did here, as was well covered at the time. Also invoke the conspiracy theorist in me - how much media coverage do you believe Corbyn would have gotten, assuming his attempts were greater than we've so far been led to believe? I don't mean to say they were greater or lesser, just that I didn't see much coverage, and that is all I have to go on. I should add for all this - I'm not Corbyn or Labour mad. I've never felt a particular affiliation to any one party or politician. I like to take them all as they come - but again Corbyn feels like a face in that world that I get to see that represents me better than the rest. There's still gaps.

The leaver which he is? Just like you're a racist if you voted leave, right? Well yes of course, that's why I was sharing so much. I've drawn comments from many friends about how I was essentially accidentally flooding their facebooks with referendum stuff - yet post-referendum I saw many many many more remainers all bitching and moaning trying to reverse it but then I wondered why they didn't do their work before it instead. Maybe I swayed some unknowns, maybe I didn't - but I explicitly knew what most of my friends were going to be voting based on conversations, likes, etc. I agree the uncertains would be less vocal - but again that's why I was sharing so much. But wasn't that just, really, the truth? Would you prefer to be lied to, similar to what the Leave campaign is now being held to have done by so many people? The EU's not perfect, but the argument was that we can only change it from within, and also that leaving would be bad for the economy. As I said - the argument for remain wasn't a particularly sexy one to make - how would you have done it, if you were in their shoes? Re: the Tory win last year - that's not the same. Votes did not count as democratically in that vote/election as they did here, as was well covered at the time. Also invoke the conspiracy theorist in me - how much media coverage do you believe Corbyn would have gotten, assuming his attempts were greater than we've so far been led to believe? I don't mean to say they were greater or lesser, just that I didn't see much coverage, and that is all I have to go on. I should add for all this - I'm not Corbyn or Labour mad. I've never felt a particular affiliation to any one party or politician. I like to take them all as they come - but again Corbyn feels like a face in that world that I get to see that represents me better than the rest. There's still gaps.

I think I'm increasingly coming to realise that, whilst they're all like it, Boris firmly is in it for Boris, and realises what a disaster and how shit he would be at PM. He can fluff and flounder in his comedy way quite often, but it isn't the sort of thing a PM can do. I reckon he'd like to just be at the top buddies whilst someone else is PM. Corbyn during the EU referendum? Well, tbh I'm only behind Corbyn because I find him the most relatable face being exposed to me from the world of politics. All these Labour MPs resigning - I think fuck it, let them, maybe we'll get a good shakeup and have some more representative people taken to the forefront. I don't know them, I don't think much of them, but Corbyn - despite the media and others attempts, seems to still be standing. I don't quite understand what he's supposed to have done wrong but when you've got so many people gunning for a man who's resolutely standing by his decisions - well, it just makes me wonder some. To come back to him during the referendum - what did we want or expect? I was sharing things left right and centre on facebook about it - to be mostly met with either pure agreement from other remainers, or blind resistance from a number of(not all) leavers. I didn't know enough unknowns to see what way they would be swayed - but again as I said, the 'remain' argument wasn't a particularly sexy or controversial one. Remain essentially said to maintain the status quo - and whilst so many are disillusioned with the current politicians and government when their lives are shit, trying to explain why the status quo is good is a very difficult argument to make. I think it was the guy who was on the last leg who said that many people could possibly have voted Leave because their lives feels so shit right now that they honestly didn't understand or believe that they could get any worse. I think Leave won on a large ticket of disillusionment and apathy to the current way of things. Post-referendum though I'm impressed with Corbyn despite what he's fighting against, especially with his own people. I was glad to see he sacked Hilary Benn, when usually politicians resign, and I'm glad to see he's saying he'll continue to lead the party and stand democratically if there's a leadership contest when he's been pretty much voted in by the public people - the one place they seemed to find they had control or a say in politics. I didn't join to vote for him before, but if a leadership contest comes up again then I'm seriously contemplating it. As I said of all the politicians I get exposed to - he seems to be the one that might actually be able to do or achieve the things I would like, despite basically being attacked from every single angle right now.

I'm increasingly wondering if the chaos might even be a little bit good - shaking everything up a bit. Corbyn seems to be resolute sticking to his guns and I'm hoping that might somehow work out in his/Labour's favour. I don't tend to have a particular political affiliation but I'd possibly get behind Corbyn and Labour in the current situation(depending on the outcome of this moment of flux).

Ahhh mate I had SR4 on my 360 or so but didn't fully finish - having it for PS4 will be very welcome for me given my 360's in a corner and I never got back on it. What's Furi all about?

The problem with England is, they always try and walk it in. (soz, couldn't help myself) I do agree though. As a non-regular football fan, I struggle to see any sort of shape or tactics to their game so far in the Euros. I don't know if it's because I'm not particularly football focused, but a lot of it just seems a bit unpredictable really, and I think it really showed with some of the Iceland match.

Other than Gravity Rush anyone got any Sale recommendations for PS4? Really need to get back on the thing.

Keep it Zelda and on-topic please, folks. This is a warning.

But each was its own time limit, of sorts - is there even a 'time limit' in this? Though then I wonder...what if you can only access certain ones on certain times or during certain weather conditions? That'd be another interesting thing. OoT had 8ish+ and I had no issues with that. A couple even had a 'shortcut' aspect to them iirc so that you could come back to it later and skip having to repeat too much of what you'd already done(a common Zelda feature these days, though still some work required) - I don't think I've found myself minding it too much tbh. Maybe we'll still see something else though, even less conventional but equally interesting. I do find myself looking forward to the game just to see what it holds as whole experience.

That is a fair point actually, as I ask for more dungeons I do kind of think of them in terms of length of previous dungeons. The ones in SS and TP I didn't find overly long, but I may have saved myself specifically for them and Ninty have generally been going at giving you 'return points' of sorts. I wouldn't mind a larger than usual dungeon if that's got that aspect of a return point - but then as well my most recent Zelda experiences have probably been OoT and MM on 3DS where you could essentially do exactly what you say - pop on and off pretty easily without any major interrupts! Another option is, though I know it annoyed some, something similar to what PH did with its main time temple and returnablility of sorts - what if they made almost multi-layered/multi-tiered dungeons that you can do a bit of here and there but will essentially have to come back to one or twice later to fully finish off/complete. Quite metroid-esque, though. In my mind Prime's springing in as I think about it.

Tbh since E3 I only have what others say to go on - so hopefully it isn't true but doesn't fill me with inspiration if it's a rumour with basis. We've also only seen a small portion of the game so not a lot of environments and hopefully there'll be fresh and new ones too - but as I said some really solidly themed dungeons would be fantastic. I can think in my head of OoT and the Forest Temple/Music with its strange melancholy jollyness and that echoing choir-like melody(used to be one of my least appreciated dungeons too) plus its general setting just makes it feel like....I dunno. Just....the emotion of it. When I think of stuff with Zelda I just feel things, that I can't always put into words, and that's what I'd like from this. Themed dungeons can be such a crafted atmosphere to achieve that! Also to go back to MM(as it's a fairly fair comparison to OoT) - some of the dungeon mystery was lost by each one's treasure being a new arrow. I can see why and it worked in the game, but OoT(admittedly fresher, as MM drew heavily on it) felt like a real exploration as you didn't know what you were actually gonna get! TP recaptured this(NO TAKE MIRROR!), but sadly the post-dungeon usage of items was then limited - something I really hope WON'T be the case in this game given its openness. Also don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm against the shrines - I just feel I don't know how much atmosphere etc each will offer compared to a real, proper, full-fledged dungeon where there's possibility to build the whole thing around its area, as I felt was done with OoT and MM's. Having exploration areas is cool - OoT+MM offered this in some ways with random holes etc, LttP had caves etc, I really really like all of that and I think shrines may well capture that - just as long as there's enough variety to go with it all.

Yeah I've always shared stuff that could be called political - but I guess it's because I feel some people don't consider or think about it all enough, and tbh I think this referendum has shown that in some ways. I'm slightly trying to avoid taking any sides now the decisions in or fighting that corner and just going forwards generally - absolutely like you I think the best thing is to discuss things. One of my mates on facebook was vehemently on the opposite side of the vote to me, but it hasn't tinged us at all(if anything, made us closer!) - I am struggling to actually understand how or why people are having to get so caught up and personal about things, like how you can hate someone so vehemently simply for having a different view to you! If we just all got along and agreed then life would be boring! I just wish some people would conduct themselves with decorum - I've seen absolutely despicable and vile behaviour post decision from both sides, and that's one of the things that upsets and maybe even angers me the most. I abhor all this name calling and absolute and utter self-belief that they're not just an opinion, but that they're right! I know I can and have been very passionate on the whole topic, but I've never taken an approach of dismissing someone for a different opinion and I'm amazed seeing the absolute spectrum of people doing so!

No way has he been MEP for the last 17 years?! He wasn't even on the radar 17 years ago! I recall when he got the election to position, and I was definitely much older than I was 17 years ago....wasn't I?? Had seen one of the comedy folks on The Last Leg say the same on Friday though. One thing annoying me a bit atm - apparently I can't post anything political on facebook without it automatically being just about a Remain/Leave thing -.- I am amazed at how solidly this has shifted some people's pre-concepted mindsets to read automatically assume the nature of something and immediately go on an offensive/defensive. I've specifically tried to avoid being a 'bad Remainer' since Friday but for some reason that also means I'm maybe apparently supposed to shut up about anything remotely political!

Backed Iceland to win for a few quid as their odds looked good but never expected it. Got in around 35 mins in and saw it was already 2-1!! Quite shocked. England were terrible in the second half, seemed so sloppy for most of it whereas some of Iceland's attacks looked quite tight to me(tho I'm not a big football man). Some tense moments resting on it for me though, especially in the last ten minutes or so! Seems I've learnt this week the best way for me to win money is to bet against what I want though. This and the Brexit netted me £20, which covers what I've lost otherwise so far! Shame it isn't worth quite as much as last week Props to Iceland though, given who they were against I think they played really well. Now that I'm not following England anymore I might try and catch their matches instead! (along with Wales, ofc)

Four dungeons?? Just four dungeons?! The saddest thing about MM for me is that it only had four dungeons. I know there's the shrines but I'd hope that this is supposed to be geographically the biggest Zelda ever that there are more than four bloody dungeons. The amount of theme-ing they can do per dungeon is one of the things I love about going through Zelda and experiencing its dungeons that tend to reflect their environmental settings/theme. Having just four bloody dungeons is weak AF if true. Hope there's at least 7-10. What if...Link isn't the Hero...

Why aren't we asking ourselves how or why we let our society get to this in the first place? Whilst I can't deny I didn't think we should be given the power of the vote, I can't deny it was truly and fully democratic. Hearing people regretting it could be a reason to argue against that - but that's to suggest I'm more right in having a say in my country than one of these other people, and I'm not so sure about that. I'm currently(tho subject to change) with @kav82 on not wanting to pledge to a further referendum just because it didn't go the way I believe is right - because I am willing to accept I could both be wrong, but also that a majority spoke in a democracy. I'm not keen to say Brexit is inherently bad or wrong even though I believe it, I feel it is just mostly unknown. Back to your post though King_V - I'm glad it's making people think. Shame it may be a bit too little too late, but they ARE thinking now. As Cube says also - can we use it as a jumping off point to consider again moving forward to making other election processes more democratic, especially given the irony of some of the arguments made around exactly that and the EU? Of course, these are mostly rhetorical questions. I know the arguments coming both for and against them, and it will start to take us off topic getting into them.