Gizmo Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I know what you're saying about having a small localization team and all that but - isn't this the EXACT same game as the DS game, but for one chapter? Does it really take 8months to translate 1 chapter of the game? And I very much doubt that space is a problem, considering this is a DS game with a little extra. Put onto a DVD there should be PLENTY space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teppo Holmqvist Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 And I very much doubt that space is a problem, considering this is a DS game with a little extra. Put onto a DVD there should be PLENTY space. I didn't mean space in most classical sense. Many games have fixed length for paragraphs, and if your translation is longer than the fixed length, you need to adjust code. Here is good and relatively simple example from my own Kid Icarus english-to-finnish translation: Original english paragraph "MAY I HELP YOU?+ WE HAVE EVERYTHING. 35 characters Finnish translation "KUINKA VOIN AUTTAA TEITÄ?+ MEILLÄ ON KAIKKEA." 44 characters + = Means break in the text. Without doing any changes to code, my translation would be restricted to maximum length of 35 characters, resulting in some extremely wonky dialog. That's actually reason why old NES games had some bizarre dialog. When localizers translated text, they were forced to work on same character lengths that original writers had used. They couldn't add more size to game, because bigger cartridges would have been too expensive to manufacture. These days situation isn't really that much better. Japanese can fit their dialog in much smaller space than in english, and localizers need adjust code to make their translations fit. And even this isn't always possible, because in menus, for example, there literally isn't room for long words. In these cases, you must replace words with icons, use abbreviations*, or do something *really* creative. When European localization starts, you get even more problems, because all four European languages are little bit different structure- and grammar wise. Sorry for long explanation, but I really hope this helps to understand what problems localizers face. * Some good examples could be PhoenixDwn for Final Fantasy VI, and C.STN from Breath of Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Another thing about translations is that a direct translation isn't always possible. Some sentences don't have the same "effect" (usually humour) in another language - these must be modified to a sentence with creates the same "effect", yet doesn't change the story. IIRC, in the Paper Mario games, the jokes in the different languages are actually different, tailored for each language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzahdrane Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Thanks for that very interesting post, Teppo - I wasn't aware of this stuff at all! As for the date, eurgh it seems far away, as in after my summer holiday, and pretty much anything after my summer holiday doesn't seem important :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh_gamer Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Simillar to the US boxart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 A slightly different version is on Amazon UK: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I like Amazons version the best. I cant wait to play this as I have never played the DS version so it will be all new to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrocasilva Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Just hurry up Atlus, and give me some RPG's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 So, the week of release is finally upon us Europeans! I have just preordered my copy from Gameplay this morning and I hope the rest of you are picking this up aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelda_Rulez Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I've preordered my copy as well. I hope I'll get it this friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domstercool Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Wooo! Mine was posted today from GAME, looks like I could get it on Weds, just like Pokemon! Woo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'll wait for the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekunando Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 My mum, girlfriend and I all saw the TV advert yesterday (or maybe the day before..) and it looked pretty good I still have the DS one to keep me occupied, but maybe in the future I will consider parting with some money for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Gonna get this on a rental Haven't played the DS version so looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Saw this advertised on TV last night, pretty good advert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrocasilva Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Saw this advertised on TV last night, pretty good advert. I wanna see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Cookie Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Yay! I'm quite looking forward to this game. If it'd been a launchtitle (as it originally was), I'd have picked this up alongside my Wii on laynchday. But it's finally here. Some eight months later, but it's here. Well, almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 8 months later... it better be worth the ridiculous wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 8 months later... it better be worth the ridiculous wait! For me it will be as I never had the privilage of playing the DS version so this will be all new to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 8 months later... it better be worth the ridiculous wait! I really hope it is. For me it will be as I never had the privilage of playing the DS version so this will be all new to me. I only ever played the Demo from a download station and loved it and been craving for more ever since. And hopefully soon I can see if it was worth it all cause my copy got sent to me today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzybee Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Preordered, can't wait. Loved the DS version and this looks even better! This game can only be made for Wii too, which is awesome, I love seeing peoples reactions on games that have previously been impossible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolness Bears Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I want this game but don't have enough money, Oh well It looks really good. I didn't originally want it but i do now. I loved the DS game. The Box art looks really nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domstercool Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 It's here! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I'll have to wait to about 5pm to get this from my dads house! I was surprised that Gameplay sent it yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I'll have to wait to about 5pm to get this from my dads house! I was surprised that Gameplay sent it yesterday! I was really surprised aswell.Seen that money was off my account and the only order I had was this. Finally Owen our long is is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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