Ashley Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Thank you. My point was big publishers abandoning it and Nintendo creating hardware that allows for both innovative local gaming and online. Can you play the likes of Enter the Gungeon, Spelunky, Guacamelee, ResoGun online or is it local multiplayer only? Those, and most of Daft's list, are all primarily single player experiences with tacked on multiplayer anyway. Of those games Resogun is the only one with online mode supported. I suppose you could technically do the others through Share Play, but that's kind of a hacky way rather than official support. Anyway, now that the criteria has been re/defined, going from Amazon's games in the last 90 days but just the first two pages because I've got things to do: Nioh (local) Rainbow Six Siege Gold Season 2 (online) Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 4: Road to Boruto (online and local) Tales of Berseria (local) Digimon World: Next Order (online and local) The Crew Ultimate Edition (online) Forestry 2017 - The Simulation Slain Hitman Earthlock - Festival of Magic Resident Evil 7 Biohazard Yakuza 0 Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Gravity Rush 2 Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star Adult Swim Collection (local) Abzu (none) For comparison the one Wii U game released in the last 90 days does have multiplayer tl;dr I don't think anyone is disputing Nintendo's strong local multiplayer presence. However, to write off other consoles as 'basically' not having it would be foolish, it just is less talked about. One could argue that the reason Nintendo's local multiplayer is so vocally discussed is because it is the only option available most of the time (as in games rarely come with online and local and also of all games released only a small % offer online play). Whether you think the multiplayer offered is "tacked on" is your own prerogative, in the same way people may see MK8's online multiplayer as "tacked on" because it lacks standard online modes. Discuss, debate, but be clear in your definitions and accept other people have different interests and perceptions of the same situations.
dazzybee Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 So from that leak you can create temporary or permanent matchmaking groups (or communities). So we could have an N-Europe group permanent for easy jump into local games. Pretty good idea.
Esequiel Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I almost... really really almost pre-ordered this in Smyths as I picked up some Pokemon cards for the youngest. Now, I'm not tight with money, honestly £280 isn't a huge deal for me but I find myself refusing to part with it for this. I'm not sure why, I know I want to play Zelda but something is holding me back I have the alert set up at gameseek, at £200 I might bite (I can get a pro controller then for the same price as the normal console).
DazzeL Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I'm so flip-flopping on my pre-order. I'm lucky enough not to be tight on money either but that's not to say I want to waste £300+. I was really expecting Nintendo to firm up some more detail but their silence has only created even more uncertanity as rumours swill around to try and fill in the gaps. I think if there really is no voice chat without a bloody phone app then that will push me over the edge. I appreciate Nintendo aren't going to suddenly pitch up with an Xbox Live killer but something that resembles a basic online service from 2005 would be nice.
killthenet Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) I didn't understand it... What's it saying? Can you voice chat on the switch? Also, someone says it's fake as it says 4k output which is confirmed to be wrong. So a developer tweeted - bravo to the developer leaking all this dev stuff, you're the reason Nintendo doesn't trust us. So maybe it is true... Who's clever enough to give a layman's summary? It does seem legit, there are some images of a prototype pro controller and the system UI. The reference to 4K output is accurate as it only pertains to video processing, not games. The Switch is capable of outputting 4K 30FPS video as an upper limit (which also happens to be the limit of HDMI 1.4 which the Switch uses), so it leaves the door open for Nintendo to offer Netflix & the like in 4K down the line but developers are limited to using a maximum resolution of 1080p at 60 FPS. And I don't think it mentions voice chat directly on the Switch, the matchmaking and adding friends that Serebii is referring too was already confirmed on Nintendo's US website on the day of the Switch event in January in this table: The documents are probably the exact ones that Eurogamer published the details of back in December as everything lines up with it. Edited February 13, 2017 by killthenet
dazzybee Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Ah fair enough. No reference to an achievements system. So I guess it'll just be random missions on my Nintendo for games then.
Pestneb Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Ah fair enough. No reference to an achievements system. So I guess it'll just be random missions on my Nintendo for games then. I can see it being a bit like miitomo, mario and fire emblem... missions for platinum coins. I do hope they streamline the interface though. Something like get coins get coins Regular coins etc. because other wise that page will get ridiculously long. But actually earning coins to buy rewards (themes etc.) would be more meaningful than just a trophy or w/e. Having miiverse style prompts to share on social media etc. would make achievements "louder". Considering making a miiverse.Sjonpi facebook account or something like that. I know it's against the ToS of facebook, but meh. Edited February 13, 2017 by Pestneb
Nicktendo Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Confirmed: Friday, Saturday and Sunday paid holiday from work. I'll be sat in my pyjamas for 3 straight days playing the Switch AND getting paid for it
Naar Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Here's the lot: Leaked Switch specs: http://www.filedropper.com/nx-sdevquickstart-32-20160729-en-private http://www.filedropper.com/nx-overview-13-20160715-en-private http://www.filedropper.com/nx-systemfeaturesguide-11-20160930-en-private (original Reddit post) http://dystify.com/SwitchLeak. (from NeoGAF) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343614 <-- contains a ton of info) But, the documents date July 15th...
liger05 Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Here's the lot: Leaked Switch specs: http://www.filedropper.com/nx-sdevquickstart-32-20160729-en-private http://www.filedropper.com/nx-overview-13-20160715-en-private http://www.filedropper.com/nx-systemfeaturesguide-11-20160930-en-private (original Reddit post) http://dystify.com/SwitchLeak. (from NeoGAF) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343614 <-- contains a ton of info) But, the documents date July 15th... Would certainly help if nintendo released some info. We shouldn't need leaks after the platform has been revealed and is being sold.
ArtMediocre Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 The store I'm buying from has one of the best deals ever. 30 day return. And you can try it for 30 days, and if you're not happy and want to return the product, just bring the product and the receipt, and you get all your money back. This makes it real easy for me, as I then can get Switch and Zelda, and if I'm not convinced, I'll just return the Switch. I can't return Zelda, but that doesn't matter. I'll keep it and buy a cheaper Switch later when I'm more convinced. Or just keep the launch system if I'm happy with it. Anyway, really looking forward to the release day. I've got the Friday off for paid vacation, and I'm not gonna tell my girlfriend :P. Haha, it's a good time to be a Nintendo nerd!
Dcubed Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Wow! What a find! There's so much in there! Nice to finally know that we can have the same account on multiple machines!
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Huh, funny you feel this way. I'm way over in the cynical corner. I'm not counting down the days til the Switch, I'm waiting for the new Zelda and the colourful controller I'm going to have to play it on. The game lineup is, for my preferences, abysmal. I see no evidence they won't disappoint me like they did last generation. You could always just get BOTW on the Wii U - why get a Switch for launch (assuming you are) if you have zero excitement for it..!? I don't mind the negativity, it's just this illogical train of thought I can't understand. People are clearly already upset with the Switch and it's apparent lack of features, and make it apparent on this board everyday... yet some have traded in stuff for half the price they bought it just to get the Switch for launch. This is what frustrates me - having the attitude of having zero excitement for the Switch when there is clearly something that appeals to you.
Kav Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 ...yet some have traded in stuff for half the price they bought it just to get the Switch for launch. This is what frustrates me - having the attitude of having zero excitement for the Switch when there is clearly something that appeals to you. I have no excitement for Switch and I've done the above. It's really quite simple as to why I got it. Zelda, Mario, Xenoblade 2 and the possibility of a Metroid. If all of the above would've been coming out on WiiU I'd have kept that. It doesn't mean I'm excited for the Switch. I wouldn't have bought one at full price, not a chance, but given that I'll now only be paying £27 for Switch with Zelda and the Pro Controller then I may as well considering I will want games down the line... at that price it's worth it. At full price it's not. I don't see it as difficult to understand or why it should frustrate oneself.
Sheikah Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Wow! What a find! There's so much in there! Nice to finally know that we can have the same account on multiple machines! Can somebody explain what this means?
Happenstance Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I've got to admit I was left scratching my head when I looked at that image
ArtMediocre Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Can somebody explain what this means? Image 01: You can have the same Nintendo Account on multiple Nintendo Switches. Image 02: You cannot share the same Nintendo Account on multiple profiles on the same Nintendo Switch. Image 03: You cannot have multiple Nintendo Accounts on a single Nintendo Switch Profile. That is what I get from the picture. So according to this, you need to create a few profiles if you want to have multiple regions on the same Switch. And then link the accounts to those profiles. I think. Here's a quick mock-up of what I'm thinking will work. But damn, its irritating that it doesn't say in the diagram: Edited February 14, 2017 by ArtMediocre
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I have no excitement for Switch and I've done the above. It's really quite simple as to why I got it. Zelda, Mario, Xenoblade 2 and the possibility of a Metroid.If all of the above would've been coming out on WiiU I'd have kept that. It doesn't mean I'm excited for the Switch. I wouldn't have bought one at full price, not a chance, but given that I'll now only be paying £27 for Switch with Zelda and the Pro Controller then I may as well considering I will want games down the line... at that price it's worth it. At full price it's not. I don't see it as difficult to understand or why it should frustrate oneself. 3/4 of the games you mention have no release date, you are quiet dissatisfied with the current online situation with the Switch yet you e sacrificed a lot to get one... All I'm saying is it would be good to see a balanced perspective because there is obviously something that's attracting to go all out for the Switch. The frustration comes from the daily Debbie-downerish comments, sure we can just ignore but it's this repetitive type of discussion that leads people to, for example, create an 'other' Switch Thread - it's just the opposite end of the spectrum to what caused the latter. A new Nintendo console, a new Zelda in just 2 weeks - let's celebrate this rare occasion.
Kav Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) I'm not going to be positive, just for the sake of it, when I don't feel positive about the product. @King_V, you say I've sacrificed a lot for the Switch when in reality I've sacrificed bugger all. My WiiU and 3DS were packed away gathering dust, I was never going to play them again after Zelda so trading them in makes sense. It's by no means a sacrifice. Getting rid of things I was never going to use again is not going all out to get a Switch! I'm excited for Zelda, I watch the trailer almost daily and get as excited each time... but the Switch, I have zero excitement for. It'll be handy, but by no means will it be my primary or even secondary console, I'll play more on the PS4 and XBO than I will the Switch (after Zelda of course)... hell, I'll probably still play on my phone more than it! Edited February 14, 2017 by Kav
dazzybee Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Can somebody explain what this means? You can have the same account on multiple devices. You can't have two of the same account on one device. The third one is confusing... Seems to say you can't have multiple accounts on one device.... which isnt true. Edited February 14, 2017 by dazzybee
Nicktendo Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I just received another £50 Amazon voucher from work, pre-ordered 1-2 Switch and got myself a Hori carry case. The hype is real. I don't know how much I'll like 1-2 Switch. It intrigues me, and I know at least for a couple of evenings it'll be fun to play with the missus or something to stick on between Zelda sessions. I figured it wasn't going to cost me anything, so why not? I definitely would have got Bomberman had it been half the price it currently is, but there's no way I'm forking out £44.99, even if it is free money, on something which looks like it should be a budget e-shop title. We could really do with a direct right about now.
Dcubed Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Can somebody explain what this means? It comes from the dev documentation, which I've quoted below... The link between a user and a Nintendo Account can be removed at any time. After the link has been removed, the user can link to a different Nintendo Account. (The operating policy might put a limit on how often this can be done.)A single Nintendo Account can be linked to multiple NX systems. (See Fig. 1) When multiple NX systems link to the same Nintendo Account, the user nickname and icon is synchronized across systems. However, the application's save data is not automatically synchronized across systems. On the other hand, it is not possible to either link multiple users to the same Nintendo Account on the same NX system (Figure 2), or to link one user to multiple Nintendo Accounts (Figure 3). Basically it works in exactly the same way as it does on PS4/Xbone. Edited February 14, 2017 by Dcubed
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I'm not going to be positive, just for the sake of it, when I don't feel positive about the product. I'm not saying you should do this... but I'll leave it there as to not derail the current conversation.
Sheikah Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 It comes from the dev documentation, which I've quoted below... Basically it works in exactly the same way as it does on PS4/Xbone. Actually this doesn't sound quite like what the competition is doing. As a user on my PS4 I can log in to different PSN accounts (e.g. different region accounts - seemingly you can't do this according to point 3 of what that says). Unless you setup a different user maybe...? But then I wonder if you can play games on a different user to what they were downloaded on (thinking about purchases from other region stores here). In fact it says you must actively "link" your Nintendo account to your user profile (point 1) in order to use it, and actively "unlink" it if you wish to use another Nintendo account with that profile (e.g. a Nintendo account from a different region to get other store content). That makes it sound like a hassle (and potentially restricted on the number of times you can do this) if you wanted to grab content from another store (with a different Nintendo account). Unless I'm missing something.
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